lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.2 released, with great performance and networking fixes! -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- Sprints: https://github.com/ipfs/pm
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<lgierth> quick poll: how do people feel about panic reports in .ipfs/?
<lgierth> i.e. writing a panic to a file, in addition to stderr
<ion> Sounds like a good idea.
<ion> Maybe automatically prune any old reports.
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<lgierth> !pin QmQDweYh22szyEErSZY3CzAbffsG8KH37SKr8xEbjoSUEn gx panicparse
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmQDweYh22szyEErSZY3CzAbffsG8KH37SKr8xEbjoSUEn
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<apiarian> hello! what's the story with ipld these days? i've been out of the loop for a couple of months
<lgierth> !pin QmQDweYh22szyEErSZY3CzAbffsG8KH37SKr8xEbjoSUEn gx panicparse
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmQDweYh22szyEErSZY3CzAbffsG8KH37SKr8xEbjoSUEn
<lgierth> apiarian: there's a spec now! \o/
<lgierth> !pin QmdFQS51oLQk5xiVhtSKxfgCYekgvMXpejrN1oMkwF6pSM gx panicparse
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmdFQS51oLQk5xiVhtSKxfgCYekgvMXpejrN1oMkwF6pSM
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<apiarian> lgierth: ooh, nice. is it implemented in go-ipfs yet?
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<lgierth> dignifiedquire demo'd js-ipld at a meetup just a few hours ago :)
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<jbenet> !pin QmcWEgqp8R2odv5HxEanYgGjDZtEb9xV5VyMJ1zq6xab5w okf.ie data
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmcWEgqp8R2odv5HxEanYgGjDZtEb9xV5VyMJ1zq6xab5w
<jbenet> apiarian: feel free to help mildred and me implement in go-ipfs :)
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<Kubuxu> lgierth: no, it is going smooth
<Kubuxu> lgierth: the pinning
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<jbenet> like live loading from an issue’s tasks + completion of tasks (checkboxes). this would help make roadmaps and large issues MUCH easier to document and see what’s going on
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<A124> I should really add IPFS as permanent, but too many channels. I guess I am wrong time to catch people around, hmm.
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<A124> Anyway a (partial) followup to https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/875 (avoid duplicating files added to ipfs): I am still seeking to solve data problems, the world is moving slow, IPFS should have any means not to replicate stuff. Controlled hardlinking could help with that. But basically IPFS is a content adressed tree. Which is something I can see of large benefits in filesystems. I did [...]
<A124> [...] sketch out features of (relative to me, some stuff may be missing) filesystem. In the end I realized implementing that did sound like btrfs, and it did. btrfs on steroids, very powerful ones. So far one of the core differences I came down to (if implemented that way) a parallel b-tree/tree, but content based, not filesystem structure based and bidirectionaly linked with the b-tree used by [...]
<A124> [...] the filesystem. That way one could likely easily achieve a) data deduplication, online/offline, low memory, and very performant (add a small bloom or alike over it) (some dedup inline filesystems exist, btrfs has dedup but either offline or memory hungry), b) distributability of filesystem based on content (think IPFS, API, Service, anything, and maybe c) solomon-reed error correction (not [...]
<A124> [...] sure if tree shall be involved), d) tiered, networked, dstributed, cached, versioned filesystem with snapshots, secure content awareness and more.
<A124> jbenet ... few words I wanted to share with you. And others. The rest got mixed in my head, might followup some day. ..
<jbenet> A124 that sounds excellent, and yes all we should look into. add to that issue
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<aaaaaaaaa____> are there any ops or developers that i could msg with who could talk about strategies for backing up and distributing existing community archive? we've been trying to use IPFS and set up a workflow, have filed an issue with one roadblock, etc. but would be nice to talk our situation through with someone
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<jbenet> aaaaaaaaa____ describe your issue somewhere accessible by more community members, maybe github.com/ipfs/support
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<fuznuts> any ipfs nerd gurus here who are familiar with cryptocurrency?
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* A124 notes it is really not an issue with IPFS, also you sued wrong handle
<A124> fuznuts What about asking?
<fuznuts> im sorry i dont understand :/
<fuznuts> I didn't sue anyone
<A124> fuznuts Ask questions directly, that is IRC custom.
<fuznuts> btw everyone A124 answered me and he is a cool community member. :)
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<pokazef> Hello, #ipfs
<pokazef> I'm looking for people working on the problem of sharing data transformation processes
<pokazef> As in "Applying program X to data A gives data B"
<pokazef> The goal being to optimize storage and bandwidth requirements in P2P file networks when many files are slight variations of each other
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<pokazef> I've been working on this for a while and I need help.
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created feat/select-tests-by-env (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vr1mC
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/feat/select-tests-by-env 05c0cbb David Dias: select tests by process env
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #272: select tests by process env (master...feat/select-tests-by-env) https://git.io/vr1mV
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] dignifiedquire created fix/repo-path (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vr1mN
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/fix/repo-path 4b55102 Friedel Ziegelmayer: fix: use passed in repo location in the browser
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] dignifiedquire opened pull request #273: fix: use passed in repo location in the browser (master...fix/repo-path) https://git.io/vr1mA
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr1mx
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 1132fec David Dias: Merge pull request #272 from ipfs/feat/select-tests-by-env...
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid deleted feat/select-tests-by-env at 05c0cbb: https://git.io/vr1mp
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid closed pull request #273: fix: use passed in repo location in the browser (master...fix/repo-path) https://git.io/vr1mA
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid deleted fix/repo-path at 4b55102: https://git.io/vr1YJ
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<apiarian> jbenet: i'd certainly be willing to help! don't know if i can keep pace with you on it, but i'd like to try. are you tracking the ipld in go-ipfs work somehow?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created fix/last-pr (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vr1Gf
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/fix/last-pr 8080a5f David Dias: fix repo path for tests in browser
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #274: fix repo path for tests in browser (master...fix/last-pr) https://git.io/vr1GI
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr1Z1
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master a699324 David Dias: Merge pull request #274 from ipfs/fix/last-pr...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid tagged v0.10.2 at 1f1bfb5: https://git.io/vr1nx
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created test/reorg (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vr1RS
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/test/reorg 9b0beeb David Dias: reorg tests
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<A124> pokazef Are you on Linux?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #275: reorg tests (master...test/reorg) https://git.io/vr1EJ
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<daviddias> its so cool that now even teamcity agrees with our tests, dignifiedquire :)
<daviddias> it takes 5 mins though, (only ~1:30min faster than travis)
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vr1V3
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 9b0beeb David Dias: reorg tests
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master ed6b211 David Dias: Merge pull request #275 from ipfs/test/reorg...
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: teamcity only runs node tests still though :/
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<pokazef> A124: Sure, why?
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<nicolagreco> noffle: my laptop crashed when rewriting the gossip toy - I lost most of the changes that I sketched (silly me)
<nicolagreco> noffle: but I should ping you soon with my changes
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<dignifiedquire> hey nicolagreco how are things? have you tried the new ipld?
<nicolagreco> dignifiedquire: I have been moving around in these days (mainly to new york) and had juan-esque conversations
<nicolagreco> I didn't get to try the new IPLD, although I know you got the new spec working
<nicolagreco> which is exciting
<nicolagreco> I really look forward for the website
<nicolagreco> and the playground to get people playing
<nicolagreco> (also) I am getting free-er and free-er as the academic year ends
<nicolagreco> so I can actually start playing with it
<nicolagreco> and help you out
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<nicolagreco> (every time I get on IRC after a while, I forget that my way of typing short little messages is just wrong)
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<dignifiedquire> :D
<dignifiedquire> no worries short messages are fine :)
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<dignifiedquire> I type short as well :0
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] hutenosa closed pull request #2453: build: include commit hash & version (master...fix/version-commit-hash) https://git.io/vaeno
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] hutenosa opened pull request #2764: build: include commit hash & version (master...feature/version-commit-hash) https://git.io/vr1FQ
<daviddias> haad: all tests passing? :D
<daviddias> no tests fail?
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<dignifiedquire> haad making progress I hear :)
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<haad> making progress yeah
<haad> got the tests running in browser now, all of them passing daviddias :)
<haad> solid ;)
<daviddias> that is really good :D
<haad> hopefully we'll have Skynet 0.0.1 tonight
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<ylp> :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I just realized that minified build is broken in aegir
<dignifiedquire> fixing it now
<daviddias> which one? All of them?
<dignifiedquire> also adding umd export that should allow haad to require the dist file without using the export loader
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: yes
<dignifiedquire> minfied was just not minified
<dignifiedquire> index.js and index.min.js were identical
<dignifiedquire> now js-ipfs is minified actually only 2.63MB
<dignifiedquire> also adding sourcemaps to the built file
<daviddias> 'only' :D
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<lgierth> does it deduplicate dependencies?
<lgierth> it=minification
<dignifiedquire> it removes dead code as good as possible, dependency deduplication is handled by webpack before hand to a degree, but not fully as we are not using es6 modules yet
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: this very small if you think that we are bundling A LOT of stuff there
<dignifiedquire> and we haven't optimized for size at all
<daviddias> agree :)
<dignifiedquire> ansuz: when go-ipfs binary gets smaller than the js implementation I start worrying :P
<lgierth> booting that laptop i forgot on the plane -- wish me luck
<dignifiedquire> :D
<lgierth> in particular i hope to recover fc00 spec work that i'm missing
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<lgierth> also cjdns+android work which is definitely on it
<dignifiedquire> good luck
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: can you review this please https://github.com/dignifiedquire/aegir/pull/18
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: update all the modules ;) aegir 3.1 is released
<daviddias> oh happy daaay
<daviddias> will start in a bit :)
<dignifiedquire> sorry about that :/
<dignifiedquire> maybe best to just do js-ipfs first and let haad test it out to be sure things do what they are supposed to do
<daviddias> sounds good
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<nicolagreco> I just went through this long (kafka-biased) divinization of log based systems https://engineering.linkedin.com/distributed-systems/log-what-every-software-engineer-should-know-about-real-time-datas-unifying
<nicolagreco> it is a great read
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<ogd> Martin kleppmans writing and talks on the subject in general is great
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vrMnO
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 31cf218 David Dias: update aegir to fix minified version
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 3f9c2fa David Dias: chore: release version v0.10.3
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 2adfe15 David Dias: chore: update contributors
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<noffle> nicolagreco: awesome (re your earlier message)
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created test/network-turbulence (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrMKo
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/test/network-turbulence 4acf2a1 David Dias: more swarm tests
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid force-pushed test/network-turbulence from 4acf2a1 to 9c5dcc8: https://git.io/vrMiG
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/test/network-turbulence 9c5dcc8 David Dias: more swarm tests
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: could you take a look at this, if the setup I did is correct? it's failing and I get the feeling that multistream and secio are not working together as well as they should
<dignifiedquire> but would like to make sure I set it up correct
<daviddias> looks good to me
<daviddias> what is the err?
<dignifiedquire> Uncaught Error: Encrypted message length is invalid.
<dignifiedquire> this matches issues I saw on swarm with secio
<dignifiedquire> there are messages being sent on the transport that should not be there
<daviddias> createSession is called in the same way
<daviddias> should both peers try to createSession
<daviddias> there is nothing to differentiate who started the crypto handshake?
<dignifiedquire> no there is not
<dignifiedquire> they run the same code
<dignifiedquire> see the test above which works as expected
<dignifiedquire> nvm looks like the errors are my own right now
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: can you please release js-peer-id?
<daviddias> sure, doing it now
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: just got this error with aegir 3.1.0
<daviddias> throw new Error("Cannot find module '" + x + "' from '" + y + "'");
<daviddias> after the index.js.map step
<daviddias> Error: Cannot find module 'gulp-uglify' from '/Users/ground-control/code/protocol-labs/_ipfs/js/js-peer-id/node_modules/aegir'
<dignifiedquire> damn it
<daviddias> got it, because it is devD
<dignifiedquire> yeah -.-
<dignifiedquire> sorry fixing
<daviddias> all good :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: published fix
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: https://github.com/ipfs/js-libp2p-secio/pull/7 works locally :)
<daviddias> so, what was the issue?
<dignifiedquire> I hadn't updated to the latest version of libp2p-crypto
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<daviddias> I'm updating the modules upstream (from peer-id)
<daviddias> including aegir
<daviddias> and now i get Error: Cannot find module "node-forge"
<daviddias> on peer-info
<daviddias> Module not found: Error: Can't resolve 'node-forge' in '/Users/ground-control/code/protocol-labs/_ipfs/js/js-peer-info/node_modules/libp2p-crypto/lib/keys'
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: anything else changed in aegir?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: gave you publish perm, gotta run now , will be back in couple of hours
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: which module are you trying to publish, js-peer-info?
<daviddias> peer-info
<dignifiedquire> okay will check
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: pushing release now: changed this to reduce the duplication of forge.bundle.js https://github.com/diasdavid/js-peer-info/commit/76c349551ffb0faf230660c6462d7c6bd896cf5e
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<nicolagreco> jbenet: you were mentioning a couple of papers for functional data structures, can you link me to them again?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-peer-info-0.7.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrMxm
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-peer-info-0.7.0 7eee54e greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update peer-info to version 0.7.0...
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #276: Update peer-info to version 0.7.0
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: are you around by any chance?
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<libman> Comparing prices for turning Bitcoin into IPFS storage. http://buyvm.net/storage-vps/ is the baseline. What is cheaper?
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: Heading home
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<daviddias> What's up
<noffle> "add" is nearly there. I hit a number of incidental bugs along the way that I've been patching.
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I'm sad :(
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: node streams are making my life a living hell again
<daviddias> Oh :( what is it this time ?
<vijayee_> alcohol?
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<dignifiedquire> hmm
<dignifiedquire> it's the issue with libp2p-swarm
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<dignifiedquire> I was right
<dignifiedquire> what's happening is that the one side finishes and starts writing to the channel assuming the other side is done
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<dignifiedquire> but when I start reading the nonce back, there is already multistream header there :/ instead of what I actually want
<dignifiedquire> because the streams do not properly buffer up until I start reading
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: and what is even weirder is that I'm getting wrong decoding in the swarm tests of short binary sequences, but I can't reproduce them in my secio tests
<daviddias> Hmm
<daviddias> You are saying that he writes are out of order ?
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<daviddias> s/he/the
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<daviddias> I would guess that is something wrong on how you are reading
<daviddias> You you get that behavior by using .read or on('data')
<dignifiedquire> both
<dignifiedquire> the problem is that it's not buffering up the data
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<dignifiedquire> it makes no sense what so ever -.-
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<dignifiedquire> I give up for tonight..
* dignifiedquire cries himself to sleep
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<daviddias> have you confirmed the order of the bytes through wireshark?
<noffle> dignifiedquire: do you have a minimal repro case? toss it into a gist!
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<dignifiedquire> noffle: no only the full deal
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I confirmed the order by looking at the underlying connection stream
<dignifiedquire> the order is correct just some bytes get lost in between
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