lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.0 released at dist.ipfs.io! Update! Now! -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- Sprints: https://github.com/ipfs/pm
<achin> they have already left. you might as well ban them
<jbenet> achin: it's someone who's here, or who can see logs. good chance they'll read that o/
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<achin> hope so
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<MadcapJake> whyrusleeping: based on L285 of main.go, I think that you actually write to package.json after calling the post-import hook
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<nicolagreco> whyrusleeping: kademlia instead replicates to the k closest peers correct?
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<nicolagreco> whyrusleeping: was there any particular reason in avoiding replication?
<nicolagreco> whyrusleeping: .. just curious
<achin> maybe i'm way off base, but i think even in ipfs there is replication in the DHT. but blocks of data are not stored in the DHT (and so are not replicated unless explictly requested)
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<whyrusleeping> MadcapJake: hrmmm... youre right
<whyrusleeping> nicolagreco: we use kademlia the same way bittorrent uses kademlia
<MadcapJake> whyrusleeping: the writing happens inside main instead of pm.go, any chance that could be moved to actually be post package.json changes?
<MadcapJake> (I have zero go experience, but it looks like you could move that writing function to pm.go)
<whyrusleeping> MadcapJake: yeah, although i'm not sure what my reasoning behind calling post-import for an install was
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<MadcapJake> I'm asking because I want to write an additional field to gxDependency objects (to facilitate just dropping in a use statement and making no other changes in your codebase to use gx)
<MadcapJake> (wrt Perl 6)
<whyrusleeping> right
<whyrusleeping> do you want to do that after you call 'gx import foo' ?
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<MadcapJake> whyrusleeping: right so the workflow would be `gx init`, then `gx import` your deps (actually I was thinking of having gx-perl6 traverse the perl 6 depends array so you could just do `gx-perl6 install`), then in your code you would need to add one line `use CompUnit::Repository::GX` and then any module referenced after that would be searched for within the
<MadcapJake> vendor/gx/ipfs dir.
<MadcapJake> (Perl 6 lets you specify via CompUnit::Repository, how modules are stored and resolved)
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<whyrusleeping> ooooh, thats pretty sweet actually...
<whyrusleeping> MadcapJake: i can push a branch with some changes for you
<whyrusleeping> so you can try it out
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<whyrusleeping> MadcapJake: eh, i just pushed a change that makes it actually run post-import after the import gets called
<MadcapJake> whyrusleeping: wow that was fast! I gotta head out for the night but I'll take a look first thing in the morning! Thanks so much!
<whyrusleeping> no problemo :)
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<alu> voxelot
<voxelot> alu
<voxelot> forgot about today, got caught up with work
<alu> so are ya still around?
<voxelot> yeah, gf is making dinner, think you can make it to my place?
<voxelot> or we can meet at a bar in like an hour
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<Red5> With the 0.4.0 update, is it now possible to do an ipns publish to different public key?
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<voxelot> Red5: that upgrade is not listed in the ipns improvements in the 0.4.0 ship blog http://blog.ipfs.io/14-ipfs-0-4-0-released/
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<whyrusleeping> Red5: you can generate keys with github.com/whyrusleeping/ipfs-key
<whyrusleeping> and use them to publish ipns entries with github.com/whyrusleeping/ipns-pub
<whyrusleeping> the functionality isnt built into ipfs itself yet
<whyrusleeping> soon though
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<Red5> great, thanks!
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vwvoa
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 9f16fa4 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2559 from eminence/makefile_help...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 0dea50b Andrew Chin: Adds 'toolkit_upgrade' to the makefile help target...
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<MadcapJake> whyrusleeping: I don't see the change you pushed
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #324: react-router@2.2.1 breaks build
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-lodash-4.11.1 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwv5r
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-lodash-4.11.1 9a58d97 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update lodash to version 4.11.1...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #147: lodash@4.11.1 breaks build ⚠️ (master...greenkeeper-lodash-4.11.1) https://git.io/vwvd8
<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #325: lodash@4.11.1 breaks build
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire are you around?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-libp2p-ipfs-0.3.1 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwfck
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-libp2p-ipfs-0.3.1 e37ffbd greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update libp2p-ipfs to version 0.3.1...
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: ping
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vwfyx
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master fa7ed5f David Dias: add circle ci config file
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vwfHr
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 599d5c5 David Dias: Merge pull request #147 from ipfs/greenkeeper-lodash-4.11.1...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created circle-ci (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwfQk
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/circle-ci 92fb927 David Dias: make circle-ci happy
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #149: make circle-ci happy (master...circle-ci) https://git.io/vwfQt
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vwf76
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 6f2d879 David Dias: Merge pull request #149 from ipfs/circle-ci...
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<voxelot> daviddias: data-exporting PR made
<dignifiedquire> voxelot: nice, will take a look soon
<dignifiedquire> voxelot: also you pinged me yesterday, what's up?
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<voxelot> thanks!
<voxelot> ohh alu and I were trying to build the webui, was wondering if is currently in a broken state
<dignifiedquire> voxelot: master ships with 0.4 and works fine, same with the redux branch I can build it without issues
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<voxelot> hmm we were getting only 'Cannot GET / ' showing on redux
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<voxelot> thanks for all the CR dignifiedquire!
<dignifiedquire> voxelot: are you running an 0.4 node?
<dignifiedquire> with the correct api settings?
<voxelot> yes to 0.4.0, probably not to correct api settings
<voxelot> was thinking that was the issue actually so i didnt really follow up
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<voxelot> i wasn't seeing any errors about access though
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<dignifiedquire> voxelot: some crazy ideas from me: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-data-importing/pull/25#issuecomment-210025062
<dignifiedquire> voxelot: master or redux?
<voxelot> redux
<voxelot> also good ideas, makes things clearer in the exporter, also a lot of the same one i was having
<dignifiedquire> voxelot: also look into http://highlandjs.org/ for all the stream things, it makes working with streams a lot simpler and supports proper backpressure handling
<voxelot> sweet
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<noffle> streams! <3
<noffle> dignifiedquire: I checked out highland a bit during several M rides back in brooklyn. some neat ideas there, but I haven't had an opportunity to see how it feels/goes in practice.
<dignifiedquire> noffle: :)
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<richardlitt> strange question, dignifiedquire
<dignifiedquire> richardlitt: hm?
<richardlitt> if I use __dirname in a dependency, it should refer to the main folder, not the dependency folder, right?
<dignifiedquire> no
<dignifiedquire> __dirname is the folder of the file
<richardlitt> how do I refer to the main dir I am in, then
<dignifiedquire> what you are asking is probably process.cwd()
<daviddias> richardlitt: process.cwd()
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I was faster :P
<daviddias> ahaha
<richardlitt> Thanks.
<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #327: react-router@2.2.2 breaks build
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I can't get it to pass on travis: https://travis-ci.org/diasdavid/js-libp2p-swarm/builds/123052953
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<daviddias> Will check
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<whyrusleeping> ha! now people will ask you questions!
<apiarian> is IPLD a thing or a future thing or a maybe future thing?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/gx-go-req (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwJhp
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/gx-go-req 8dc67e5 Jeromy: set a go version requirement in the gx package.json...
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<nicolagreco> jbenet daviddias voxelot whyrusleeping does any of us have the IPLD pad we used in nyc?
<voxelot_> nicolagreco: the physical notebook?
<voxelot_> i haz that
<nicolagreco> no voxelot_ the digital one
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<voxelot_> ohh this i think https://pad.riseup.net/p/EByKoWmYHrjz
<voxelot_> is that the one?
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: still around?
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: at the gym
<daviddias> cool :)
<richardlitt> Gah
<richardlitt> How do you message people on IRC
<daviddias> > /msg <username> how are you doing?
<richardlitt> nvm
<richardlitt> thanks.
<padz> /query username
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<achin> i find it really funny that richardlitt just asked that question, since he's messged me several times on IRC!
<richardlitt> sometimes I get confused.
<noffle> richardlitt: IRC does not have a very discoverable UX :(
<noffle> which in turn means each IRC client has wildly varying discoverability on top of that
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/object-diff (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwUZn
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/object-diff bf7da85 Jeromy: basic implementation of object diff...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/object-diff: https://git.io/vwUn8
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/object-diff 73a2f80 Jeromy: Add some help text...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2562: implement object diff command (master...feat/object-diff) https://git.io/vwUct
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<ianopolous> jbenet: what do you think about the port in onion addresses? I can separate it out if you want?
<ansuz> irc's discoverability is super easy
<ansuz> you ask a question, and then someone tells you the answer
<ansuz> and then five other people come around and berate you
<ansuz> about how easy irc is
* ansuz number 1
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<achin> it is the way of things
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<jbenet> ianopolous: sorry i can take a look now. do you have a link?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] pfista opened pull request #2563: commands: update log command help text (master...2551-outdated-log-text) https://git.io/vwUw2
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-gulp-load-plugins-1.2.2 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwUwK
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-gulp-load-plugins-1.2.2 1c9717a greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update gulp-load-plugins to version 1.2.2...
<jbenet> ianopolous: thanks responded
<jbenet> sorry for long RTT on this, im not super sure. i need to look at it deeply.
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<_Vi> Is IPFS suitable for backups? Is just recursively pinning something on other note enough for the data to be considered back up by that node?
<jbenet> yes.
<jbenet> but for our and your sanity, make sure it's really there. `ipfs refs -r <root>` should terminate.
<jbenet> (while offline)
<_Vi> Can there be a handle suitable for recursive pinning, but not allowing to read (decrypt) files?
<jbenet> there will be baked in graph-level encryption but not yet. pre-encrypt before you add.
<_Vi> Is there a friendlier command that show synchronosation status (in per cents, for example), not "should terminate"?
<_Vi> jbenet, So now only open data may be securely backed up in untrusted cloud?
<jbenet> _vi `ipfs get` sort of. not yet, we need one. pull-requests encouraged and desired. pls help us! :)
<jbenet> _Vi: you can securely back up private data, just encrypt it beforehand!
<_Vi> Is layered ipfs-fuse + encfs a good option?
<_Vi> "(while offline)" -> How do I bring IPFS offline without explicitly forbidding it in firewall?
<jbenet> maybe, i havent used encfs.
<jbenet> _Vi kill the daemon and try `ipfs refs -r <root>`
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-gulp-load-plugins-1.2.2 at 1c9717a: https://git.io/vwUo4
<_Vi> jbenet, Can completeness of locally cached data be reliably checked without taking the node offline?
<_Vi> Are there read-only and read-write handles in IPFS?
<whyrusleeping> _Vi: kinda
<_Vi> If yes, will the third type, "maintain-only" type of handle appear after that "graph-level encryption" lands?
<ianopolous> jbenet: sure, but my pull just completes the other half of what's there currently, which is broken without it.
<whyrusleeping> there are '--local' flags for some commands that let you see only data that you have locally
<jbenet> ianopolous: if you need a decision now, i think the port should be layered.
<jbenet> so "/tcp/<port>" not ":<tcp-port>"
<jbenet> which -- now that i think about it -- may already be what's there now?
<ianopolous> jbenet: what's already there encodes the port and the hash together
<ianopolous> jbenet: on deeper reading it looks like it's not tcp, it's jut a label: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en
<ianopolous> "HiddenServicePort lets you specify a virtual port (that is, what port people accessing the hidden service will think they're using) and an IP address and port for redirecting connections to this virtual port."
<ianopolous> so it's not tcp
<jbenet> ianopolous it would be reallty good to get david411 on thus
<jbenet> this*
<ianopolous> in which case I change my mind, and go back to what is in the pull request.
<ianopolous> sure
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<jbenet> well, we can still do /onion/<hash>:<port> or "/onion/<hash>/<port>"
<jbenet> i like the latter much more.
<jbenet> its just that right now go-multiaddr doesnt deal with addrs of more than 1 addr component
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<montagsoup> they latter fits better with other specs
<jbenet> yep.
<montagsoup> and provides a better sense of hierarchy in the address
<jbenet> ianopolous: how time pressed are you? could we schedule a mtg this monday and ask david and other tor interested people (cryptix?) to come by?
<ianopolous> sure, what is there currently and completed in the PR is /onion/<hash>:<port>, but I can change to the latter if it is better
<ianopolous> I'm not time pressed at all :-)
<jbenet> if you're time pressed feel free to have a fork, use what you need and then we can go back to do it right
<jbenet> ok
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<nycoliver> Hey nice job with ipns resolution speed I notice a huge difference in 4.0!
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<jbenet> let's try to do the latter, but it will be a bit funky with how go-multiaddr is cuyrrently written i think
<ianopolous> ok
<jbenet> OK let's call a multiaddr meeting. (can you coordinate with richardlitt on a good time? he runs ipfs mondays)
<ianopolous> sure
<jbenet> two goals: (a) resolve all the tor multiaddr questions, (b) discuss layerings for multiaddr dns too.
<ianopolous> awesome
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<jbenet> **Announcement**: Multiaddr Design Discussion -- https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/102
<jbenet> ianopolous o/
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<ianopolous> :-) got it
<jbenet> can you shepherd the time decision process and making sure people drop thoughts there beforehand?
<jbenet> yay
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<ianopolous> sure
<richardlitt> How about 4pm EST on Monday?
<richardlitt> THat's around 9 UTC, I think
<jbenet> ianopolous: o/ that work? (a bunch of people are in berlin, too, but i think they stay up late)
<ianopolous> 9pm BST, sure
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<ianopolous> I'm still hoping to be in Berlin the week after for squatconf
<ianopolous> as a backup
<richardlitt> Cool. :)
<richardlitt> I'll add it to the cal
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<mandelbrot> submitted my first pr :D but didn't pass circle ci. some other issue going on?
<mandelbrot> what do you all use for debugging and testing go-ipfs?
<jbenet> we shoulr write a guide about that o/
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<richardlitt> Should be in the go-ipfs readme
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<mandelbrot> can you point me in a general direction for debugging? should i use gdb?
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<tmg> I use GDB and it sucks
<tmg> b github.com/foo/bar/what.the.f
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] pfista opened pull request #2565: resolve: add local flag cmd option (master...2527-multihash-short) https://git.io/vwUdi
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<montagsoup> is multiaddr inspired by Plan 9's /net directory?
<montagsoup> at least partially?
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<lgierth> !pin QmbGPiY4MGHa7PaDygmsbCV9vC1nzcng3MdNKuGp8Kvi8m
<pinbot> usage: !pin <hash> <label>
<lgierth> !pin QmbGPiY4MGHa7PaDygmsbCV9vC1nzcng3MdNKuGp8Kvi8m dist.ipfs.io
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmbGPiY4MGHa7PaDygmsbCV9vC1nzcng3MdNKuGp8Kvi8m
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<lgierth> hrm
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<voxelot> this video is awesome for intro to highland, thanks for the suggestion dignfiedquire! https://vimeo.com/156401506