lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.0 released at dist.ipfs.io! Update! Now! -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- Sprints: https://github.com/ipfs/pm
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<voxelot_> apiarian: cool!
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<Akaibu> Also, just me thinking and could be wrong on exactly how this works, but what if someone wanted to edit a file, but also wanted to link the old hash to the new hash, maybe a git style versioning would help that? (Again could be wrong on how this works)
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<achin> anyone around to help me debug something?
<tmg> I can follow instructions
<achin> can you fetch QmeKXyS9xhkdTzDSDMm8gxLQaHzJkC6XpZ6htWSfXkr9p2 ?
<achin> i'm having weird ipfs problems
<tmg> hello testing 1234
<achin> ok, that's right
<achin> why can't i ipfs-cat this thing?
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<tmg> are you getting an error or is it blocking?
<achin> no error. it just hangs
<achin> which is weird because i just added it to ipfs litterally seconds ago
<tmg> does it cat instantly without a daemon?
<achin> great question. no, it seems to hang as well
<achin> ipfs-object-get is instant, though
<tmg> what does $(ipfs refs local | grep <hash>) return?
<tmg> next thing to do: delete $IPFS_HOME/api
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<achin> still running.... i've got a lot of stuff
<achin> ~/.ipfs/api doesn't exist
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<achin> i think i'm going to blow away all of ~/.ipfs/ (after backing up my private key)
<tmg> did the refs command find the hash you're looking for?
<achin> yeah
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<tmg> does $(ipfs block stat <hash>) give you anything? and what about `ipfs version`?
<achin> sorry, i'm already a few minutes into this rm-rf
<tmg> hahaha
<achin> i suspect block-stat would be successful. ipfs-object-get was successful
<achin> it's taking an absurdly long time to delete these files
<deltab> is it listing the files as they're deleted?
<achin> no
<deltab> maybe it's hanging for the same reason
<achin> it finally finish. just a lot of files, i guess
<achin> totally size was about 13GB, or something close to that
<deltab> sah
<deltab> ah
<achin> ok, ipfs-cat works now!
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<zekesonxx> How do I prevent ipfs from routing arbitrary ipfs traffic over my node?
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<ion> What do you mean by arbitrary ipfs traffic?
<deltab> dht or objects?
<zekesonxx> The fact that it eats all my bandwidth after being started
<zekesonxx> Specifically, I'd like to reduce that to nothing
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<deltab> that's planned but not implemented yet, aiui
<zekesonxx> Alright, well I guess I'll watch for when you implement that then so I can actually try out ipfs
<deltab> likewise
<deltab> I don'it run it because it causes my cable modem to crash
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<deltab> as bittorrent used to before I rate-limited it
<zekesonxx> I think you just have a shitty cable modem
<deltab> agreed
<zekesonxx> My modem usually doesn't crash
<zekesonxx> But it's a DSL modem and the other end of it isn't very reliable
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<lgierth> achin: yeah the repo is just a huge ton of files
<lgierth> in a huge ton of directories
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<whyrusleeping> hey guys, sorry about the gateway issues
<whyrusleeping> i've got one bootstrapper set up with a quick patch
<whyrusleeping> i'll be pushing a cleaned up version for review hopefully before sleep
<whyrusleeping> and then i'm hoping to get a fix pushed out tomorrow
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<davidar> hrm, the public gateway sends a bunch of stuff as octet-stream, even though the local gateway correctly identifies mimetypes
<mango_fruit> hi, quick question: are objects pinned by default? I did ipfs add cat.jpg and it shows as recursive pin.
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<davidar> mango_fruit (IRC): objects that you add yourself, yes
<mango_fruit> thanks
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<aaaaaaaaa____> curious if anyone else has experienced similar: after updating 0.4.0-dev to 0.4.0, my `ipfs add -r ...` fails with "ERROR commands/h: blockservice is closed client.go:247"
<aaaaaaaaa____> once after 1.35GB and another time after 11GB
<aaaaaaaaa____> total is about 350GB, which dev finished reliably, yet to get 0.4.0 to add the whole directory
<aaaaaaaaa____> (IRC client gave an error, so re-sending) curious if anyone else has experienced similar: after updating 0.4.0-dev to 0.4.0, my `ipfs add -r ...` fails with "ERROR commands/h: blockservice is closed client.go:247"
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<nicolagreco> Did someone do CRDT work on Ipfs?
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<noffle> nicolagreco: haad and I have been working on related endeavors
<nicolagreco> noffle: do you have some links?
<noffle> ipfs-log is an append only log (https://github.com/haadcode/ipfs-log/) that's great for building other CRDTs on top of. haad also wrote orbit-db, which models a kvstore and event log on top of such a log (https://github.com/haadcode/orbit-db)
<noffle> I took the route of an append only log for ipfs on top of hyperlog instead (https://github.com/noffle/ipfs-hyperlog) -- both have trade-offs
<nicolagreco> I actually stumbled upon both but I couldn't understand how these use crdts (consider I am also a bit new to the concept)
<nicolagreco> Am I wrong or this are tools for which you could use CRDTs on top?
<nicolagreco> Isn't the log "just a log"?
<noffle> one way to consider CRDTs is as a set of operation (a set, not a list!). this means you can model a CRDT as a union of many users' feeds of operations on that CRDT
<nicolagreco> How are you using the special data structures?
<noffle> I'd like to do some write-ups on building CRDTs on top of this, but I haven't got there yet :o
<nicolagreco> so these are tools to use crdts on top?
<noffle> ipfs-log is the main tool you need
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<noffle> hyperkv is an example of a kvstore crdt on top of a hyperlog (https://github.com/substack/hyperkv)
<noffle> look at that or orbit-db to see how they're building CRDTs on top of the log
<nicolagreco> thanks noffle
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<nicolagreco> the reason I am asking is because I am curious to see how a key value store does deletion more than once
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<noffle> nicolagreco: with a forking log (ipfs-log, hyperlog) this isn't hard, since you have casuality links pointing back in history. a Delete would have to come after a Set
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<noffle> the log's state would capture the Set that the Delete was intended to remove
<noffle> (maybe a bit hard to explain /wo a whiteboard :))
<nicolagreco> noffle: is this a last write wins model?
<noffle> nicolagreco: yes. but it's also a multi-value register per-key. (each key could have several valid values at a given time)
<noffle> on top of that you could define a predicate to decide which of the values "wisn"
<noffle> "wins", too
<nicolagreco> noffle: interesting, I didnt read about multi-value registers yet
<nicolagreco> noffle: you mean define a reconciliation (or merge) function not based on timestamps?
<noffle> great notes here: https://github.com/pfraze/crdt_notes on CRDTs overall
<noffle> some kind -- you could use [lamport] timestamps
<noffle> or maybe just the highest lexicographic ID of the writer wins
<noffle> whatever makes sense for your application
<nicolagreco> ok so merges are application specific
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<nicolagreco> there is an old paper (that I think predates crdts) that is called Bayou it is a nice read
<noffle> more like "interpretation of multiple heads" is application specific
<noffle> in the log case
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<nicolagreco> thanks for the notes by pfraze, if you have other readings or code please send!
<noffle> nicolagreco: I have a load of notes on https://github.com/noffle/p2p-handbook
<noffle> the content is still very WIP though
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<nicolagreco> noffle: in "Multi-Value Register" there is no concept of removal, so basically each key will have the union of all the previous values
<nicolagreco> (like the dynamo shopping cart)
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<noffle> nicolagreco: yep, but you can implement deletions (as tombstone entries) on top
<noffle> though you still end up with the possibility of multiple values at any point in time
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<jedahan> So I am working on a #machomebrew formula for gx, and I am like, one error away from it compiling: https://gist.github.com/jedahan/a4404a3dfb70d6d3e510bd58f9368b6a
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<jedahan> so go build is looking for gx/gx-util somewhere in the buildpath, but I do not know where that buildpath is
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<jedahan> newest version installs gx, but gx complains about missing package.json: https://gist.github.com/9f1fd5a2dfb5f2d54d56ad8431a9cf17
<jedahan> when i do gx version
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<jedahan> oh nvm, I know why
<jedahan> what is the difference between gx and gx-go?
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<chungy> gx-go provides the hooks for the Go programming language, whereas gx itself is a very generic framework
<chungy> Things like gx-rust, gx-java, gx-python, etc could be developed too :P
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<jedahan> ahhh that makes sense
<jedahan> whyrusleeping , can you tag a version for the latest gx-go?
<jedahan> that's the last thing I need to do, to pass brew audit, so osx peoples can just 'brew install ipfs' and get v0.4.0 :D
<jedahan> alternatively, I can just label it v0.3.1 ... but that would be lying
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<whyrusleeping> jedahan: sure thing
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<jedahan> thanks!
<whyrusleeping> pushed a 1.0.0
<whyrusleeping> gx-go works, no reason to be weird with semver
<jedahan> :D
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<jedahan> wow
<jedahan> brew audit complains that gx-go is not notable enough, since it has less than X stars, forks, watchers
<jedahan> thats lame
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<whyrusleeping> pffft
<whyrusleeping> gx has like, 1000 or something though
<jedahan> really messy, I just wanted to get it working
<jedahan> probably could do with a lot of refactoring
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<whyrusleeping> voxelot: amazon is trying to get me to buy the lifeproof case you bought
<whyrusleeping> i never once searched for it
<whyrusleeping> we just talked about it in person
<whyrusleeping> amazon is creepy
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<voxelot> whyrusleeping: that's particularly dumb since you don't iPhizzle. Maybe they make them for other companies
<voxelot> Just landed back in hell LA :(
<whyrusleeping> :(
<whyrusleeping> some to sunny seattle!
<whyrusleeping> s/some/come/
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<voxelot> I'm already plotting my escape
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<voxelot> Might drive the coast.
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<voxelot> Or a cabin train
<voxelot> Memorial Day weekend might be the first chance I get
<voxelot> Could head down to sf together
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<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: how is life after 0.4? still in nyc?
<onlnr> is ipfs clumsy compared to zeronet when it comes to hosting dynamic websites? they dont use dht at all hmm, and ipfs is eating 10kB up and down for dht
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<whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: no i'm back in seattle
<whyrusleeping> trying to relax a bit before the week starts
<dignifiedquire>
<dignifiedquire> Sounds Good
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<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: good trip back?
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<whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: yeah, pretty quick flight
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<teiresias> So I'm packaging go-ipfs-0.4.0 for a Linux distro. Looks like you guys fetch dependencies from IPFS now? Doesn't this put a lot of strain on the public HTTP->IPFS gateway? Also I've seen gx hang while downloading dependencies. Sounds like it could cause issues for build bots and such.
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<chungy> whyrusleeping: I'm in Seattle too :)
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<alu> ERROR: 404 Not Found: Path Resolve error: no link named "go-ipfs_v0.4.0_linux-386.zip" under QmQ81E7bcFm9HDvquu68BmRFi8CZJJ95RBdcQaR1p9FeCQ
<alu> im updating ipfs on my 32bit netbook
<alu> using 32bit prebuilt binary for ipfs-update
<alu> 32bit.
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<dignifiedquire> richardlitt: this looks pretty cool: https://github.com/kamranahmedse/git-standup
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<voxelot_> alu: I think you have to manually update the binaries
<voxelot_> also got the same error
<alu> uhhh manually update
<alu> gotcha
<alu> whats the best practice to updating the binary? Is there procedures or commands I should be aware of?
<voxelot_> i just pasted into my go bin path, not sure if that is a good method but seems to work
<voxelot_> but i think update-should work, not sure if we are doing something wrong there
<alu> ye is it missing a binary? "\
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<lgierth> aaaaaaaaa____: could you file an issue about that blockservice closed thing? it'll get lost in irc history otherwise :)
<lgierth> alu: you should update ipfs-update -- very early versions of it used .zip on darwin and linux but it's .tar.gz now
<lgierth> the latest ipfs-update (1.3.0) is able to update itself iirc
<lgierth> so it'll be easier the next time
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<alu> Oh I see
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<alu> when I run ipfs-update it reports as version 0.1.0 http://dist.ipfs.io/ipfs-update/v1.3.0/ipfs-update_v1.3.0_linux-386.tar.gz
<lgierth> yeeah it looks like someone forgot to increment that version number: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-update/blob/master/config/config.go#L7
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<alu> successfully installed tho
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-ipfs-repo-0.5.4 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vVHGp
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-ipfs-repo-0.5.4 88f839a greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update ipfs-repo to version 0.5.4...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #133: ipfs-repo@0.5.4 breaks build ⚠️ (master...greenkeeper-ipfs-repo-0.5.4) https://git.io/vVHZK
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-ipfs-repo-0.6.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vVHcF
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-ipfs-repo-0.6.0 79e59a5 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update ipfs-repo to version 0.6.0...
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