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<achin>
i need to have ipfs running to build ipfs?
<deltab>
tell it to use ipfs.io instead
<M-Sonata1>
ruby32, I think zeronet would be better suited to a multiplayer game
<ruby32>
thank you, i will look into zeronet
<deltab>
"Users are encouraged to have a running IPFS daemon of at least version 0.4.0 on their machines. If not present, gx will use the public gateway."
<achin>
deltab: lgierth: yep, user error. i needed to run "make toolkit_upgrade" first
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<whyrusleeping>
achin: try 'rm ~/.ipfs/api'
<whyrusleeping>
and kill your daemon
<whyrusleeping>
(not in that order)
<whyrusleeping>
ruby32: stay tuned here for multiplayer game stuff ;)
<ruby32>
we need it badly dude
<whyrusleeping>
i have a few features coming that might help out
<achin>
whyrusleeping: i ended up needing to do a "make toolkit_upgrade" first
<multivac>
[REDDIT] [Megathread] Blizzard is suing Nostalrius (self.wow) | 616 points (93.0%) | 1100 comments | Posted by aphoenix | Created at 2016-04-06 - 23:03:32
<ruby32>
central point of failure made this amazing game disappear over night.
<ruby32>
sorry if this is off topic, but this is a perfect use-case and there are 1m tech-saavy subscribers. it's a good opportunity
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<rain1>
ruby32, can you fill me in a little
<rain1>
what is nostralius?
<ruby32>
i'll pm you.. it's very off-topic
<achin>
many chatrooms don't mind off-topic stuff as long as it's not pushing out on-topic stuff. not sure exactly if this room follows that rule, but if if it is tangentally related to ipfs, others might be interested :)
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<noffle>
being at least somewhat related to ipfs is preferred, but it's a hard call to make: talking about tangential stuff is great for social bonding, etc
<noffle>
I like your phrasing, achin
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/fd-limit-check from c650319 to d4809bd: https://git.io/vVo7r
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/fd-limit-check 48ee44c Jeromy: try to raise ulimit if its too low...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/fd-limit-check 0cb01ac Jeromy: don't use Max for setting Current...
<multivac>
[REDDIT] [Megathread] Blizzard is suing Nostalrius (self.wow) | 1320 points (92.0%) | 2026 comments | Posted by aphoenix | Created at 2016-04-06 - 23:03:32
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<achin>
if blizzard isn't providing vanilla wow servers, what kind of servers are they providing?
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<achin>
modded servers?
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<deltab>
each year or two they do a big update to the game
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<deltab>
new landscapes, new playable classes and races, etc.
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<deltab>
but I gather you can't carry on playing the old game if you prefer
<ruby32>
whyrusleeping: sorry, i was afk, basically the community pulled together and made an open-source emulator for the old game (version 1.0 - 1.12)
<ruby32>
this is obviously within a copyright gray area, although many do argue that the game was purchased outright by the players for $40 in 2006, and that game doesn't exist any more, so we have a right to run that code if we so choose..
<ruby32>
anyway, blizzard had their lawyers sent C&D notices to the VPS host in france that was hosting the server, and that's a wrap
<ruby32>
the dev team was decentralized, and mostly anonymous, but the server host was not
<achin>
where would IPFS come into the picture?
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<ruby32>
it could be at any level, particularly backup of player data, in an ideal world each player would have a client connecting to peers to create the world rather than communicating with one server, but i'm not entirely sure if that is possible
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<deltab>
the game would need some way to obtain assets (maps, models, textures, audio, etc.)
<ruby32>
i think those things are local, however, the "game" having NPCs and monsters, item drops, etc, would have to be determined somehow, maybe by a federation of "official" servers distributed among many (hundreds) of locations
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<ruby32>
whereas players do not have control over that RNG
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<deltab>
asset distribution would be straightforward over ipfs; game state less so
<ruby32>
i'm assuming a solution will span multiple technologies
* deltab
nods
<ruby32>
if ipfs can help in any way, i'll use it
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<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #311: Update i18next-localstorage-cache to version 0.3.0
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<TomasBond>
Hi all!
<Kubuxu>
\o
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<TomasBond>
im working on a folder, where content inside that folder is changed
<TomasBond>
is there any way to keep the folder hash always the same?
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<haad>
TomasBond: no. if the contents of a folder/file change, the hash is different. you could, however, look into IPNS and see if you can use that for what you want to achieve.
<TomasBond>
thanks haad, ill have a look over IPNS
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<TomasBond>
so if y ipns a hash over my peerid (my folder), when i change the folder content i need to name publish again the folder so its called from my peer id hash?
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<TomasBond>
and always this folder will be called from my peer id?
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<Boomerang>
TomasBond: you can easily update the folder to IPNS with a script, if you're on UNIX something like: "ipfs add -r -q path/to/folder | tail -1 | ipfs name publish"
<TomasBond>
im on windows right now
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<TomasBond>
but the folder will be in the vps
<TomasBond>
with ubuntu
<TomasBond>
so that script will automatically update the ipns
<TomasBond>
i have tu run it just once?
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<Boomerang>
No you need to update the IPNS everytime you change a file in the folder.
<Boomerang>
(so you do have to run it more than once)
<TomasBond>
so its the same, so no script needed
<TomasBond>
thansk Boomerang
<Boomerang>
well you could set up that line as a cronjob :)
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<onlnr>
So if I want to host a static website that I update every now and then, I could do it right now with ipfs.io gateway and have a static url for it provided I run that name publish every time I change the contents?
<onlnr>
oh, gateway cant be used as a gateway to other seeders, but it will act as a voluntary seed for my node
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<onlnr>
wouldnt it be better if the gateway could check if someone is hosting the hash, and download it and show it, instead of only showing the file if it is hosting it itself?
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<onlnr>
hmm or is it actually like that
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/fd-limit-check from d4809bd to e661832: https://git.io/vVo7r
<onlnr>
oh well. How about the DHT bandwidth thing. It's silly that it takes 10kb up and 10kb down for you to just have the ipfs running on your system and to host files. Kubuxu said that the bandwidth for that could be optimized close to zero. If it was close to zero I would already want to host some files on my vps, but I dont want to run ipfs 24/7 if it is eating 10/10 kB
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<r0kk3rz>
onlnr: gateway will download from remote node
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<onlnr>
ok
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<TomasBond>
what are that 10kb up and down consuming on vps?
<TomasBond>
are files from others served from my ipfs_
<TomasBond>
?
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<onlnr>
no, but the dht takes that much bandwidth, or so I heard from Kubuxu. I have tried to ask when it will become optimized to not use bandwidth, but I have got no answers yet
<onlnr>
so that traffic is basically for nothing.. waste of resources because of unoptimized code
<Kubuxu>
it might not be wasted
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<Kubuxu>
it is just how DHT now works to make files available everywhere.
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<onlnr>
it's hard to optimize it to not take bandwidth, or why is it not done yet? For me it is a turn off. Running ipfs without any bw, or very minimal bw for dht I wouldnt mind, but that feels kind of heavy if I just want to host some random test page or a picture
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<r0kk3rz>
onlnr: its much more useful for hosting stuff of a residential service because you wont pay for the bandwidth
<r0kk3rz>
hosting off vps without having extra nodes is going to be a net loss
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<onlnr>
who are the people working on the dht optimization? I am curious when it is going to be optimized more
<pinbot>
now pinning /ipfs/QmZMehXD2w81qeVJP6r1mmocxwsD7kqAvuzGm2QWDw1H88
<pinbot>
[host 7] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmZMehXD2w81qeVJP6r1mmocxwsD7kqAvuzGm2QWDw1H88: Post http://[fcdf:a296:afe3:7118:4135:cc0b:ff92:4585]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmZMehXD2w81qeVJP6r1mmocxwsD7kqAvuzGm2QWDw1H88&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: dial tcp [fcdf:a296:afe3:7118:4135:cc0b:ff92:4585]:5001: getsockopt: connection timed out
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<whyrusleeping>
jbenet pinky promised me that we could ship 0.4.0 today
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<absurdist>
i', new to ipfs, if i add a file to my peer it will be distributed to the swarm?
<computerfreak>
is 4.0 now finished? download page still got 3.0 ...
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<pinbot>
[host 6] failed to pin /ipfs/QmZMehXD2w81qeVJP6r1mmocxwsD7kqAvuzGm2QWDw1H88: unknown ipfs-shell error encoding: text/html - "<html>\r\n<head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>\r\n<body bgcolor=\"white\">\r\n<center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>nginx/1.9.3</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"