<multivac>
daviddias: I'll pass that on when voxelot is around.
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<ion>
noffle: How about using - instead of .- in bisecting-numbers?
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<dignifiedquire>
hey daviddias how is life?
<haad>
dignifiedquire: hey, just finished integrating orbit-db to Orbit. if you have time to give it a quick test: git clone -b refactor/orbit-db https://github.com/haadcode/anonymous-networks (especially try the electron app with drag&drop file and directory uploads)
<dignifiedquire>
haad sure thing will try in a bit
<haad>
afk for a while -->
<haad>
dignifiedquire: no rush
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<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: full, burger, large, can't eat more
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: I got something awsome coming up :)
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<voxelot>
dignifiedquire: i'm starting to worry that we may have bigger questions to answer when it comes to getting data-importing module to run in the browser.
<noffle>
ion: you'll have to humour me -- how? they're both one char
<TomasBond>
hey
<TomasBond>
im trying to install ipfs on an ubuntu 15.1 vps
<noffle>
ion: oh, you mean for negatives?
<TomasBond>
i untar the file and move the folder
<ion>
-5.-5.-5.-5.-5.-5.-5 vs. -5-5-5-5-5-5-5
<TomasBond>
but when i try to run it for installation
<TomasBond>
on terminal i get a command not found
<noffle>
ion: oh, I think I see. you can see where bisection is happening even without the . in the negative case
<noffle>
that's true; you'll save there, but at the cost of more complex parsing logic
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<noffle>
I think that's a really good observation -- I'll keep that in mind. maybe make an issue? If I notice that in practice that negatives come up a lot in editing text I (or you :D) could apply it
<ion>
Is it more complex though? one_or_more (optional_negation `followed_by` one_or_more alphabet_symbol)
<ion>
Like, alternate between reading a negation symbol or a dot and reading as many alphabet symbols as you can
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<noffle>
ion: the current parser is using String#split to split on dots; so this'd require a char-by-char parser instead
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<TomasBond>
someone knows how to have a fix?
<TomasBond>
why isnt working in ubuntu? i have done everything as page indicates
<Kubuxu>
check if directory is in your PATH
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<Kubuxu>
also either restart sessions or `hash -r` or `hash -f` IDK which one
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<TomasBond>
how do i check if directory is in my path?
<Kubuxu>
TomasBond: ^^
<Kubuxu>
echo $PATH
<TomasBond>
i figured out that i have to run the program with ./ipfs init
<Kubuxu>
and check if it is there
<TomasBond>
not just ipfs init
<Kubuxu>
it is because it is in directory you are in
<TomasBond>
this is the echo response (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/local/bin)
<Kubuxu>
and where did you copy it into?
<TomasBond>
usr/local/bin/ipfs
<Kubuxu>
restart session
<Kubuxu>
so log out and back log in
<TomasBond>
ssh session?
<TomasBond>
ok
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<Kubuxu>
and try after that
<TomasBond>
so if i call ipfs help anywehere it should come out?
<Kubuxu>
it should
<TomasBond>
nop
<TomasBond>
its now working
<TomasBond>
bash ipfs command not found
<ion>
noffle: If you're using a language where all you have are split and regexps, perhaps use the latter. /^(-?[0-9]+)(?:\.([0-9]+)|(-[0-9]+))+$/ or whatever the alphabet is. ...or that's what I was going to say until noticing JavaScript regexps only capture the final match when using (foo)+
<Kubuxu>
idk
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<TomasBond>
mmm doesnt matter
<TomasBond>
i can start it with ./ipfs
<TomasBond>
is there any way to pull a file from my ipfs computer to my ipfs server?
<TomasBond>
a specific hash?
<ion>
add the file on one node, make note of the hash, get it on the other node.
<TomasBond>
and whats the command for getting it in another node
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<ion>
ipfs get <hash>
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<noffle>
ion: I think it's a reasonable optimization, but I'm hesitant to complicate the format definition until I find myself in a situation where the optimization would prove significantly beneficial.
<noffle>
ion: e.g. I wrote bisecting-between because between IDs grew at linear speed, so an optimization that took O(n) to O(logn) was significantly worthwhile.
<ion>
Yeah, this is only linear in the number of bisections.
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<TomasBond>
ion you are beeing so helpful lol
<TomasBond>
im loving ipfs
<TomasBond>
is there any way to know how many peers seeders has a hash?
<ion>
ipfs dht findprovs <hash> or something like that
<dignifiedquire>
will have basic file preview by tomorrow
<TomasBond>
i downlaoded mintty
<TomasBond>
but it seems im in a different file system
<TomasBond>
how can i found my c: drive
<Kubuxu>
There is no good terminal for windows.
<Kubuxu>
Sorry'
<deltab>
what about putty?
<dignifiedquire>
putty is a ssh client
<dignifiedquire>
TomasBond: probably /c/
<TomasBond>
cd /c/?
<lgierth>
cd c:
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<lgierth>
or cd c:\
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<richardlitt>
> I have looked for an implementation of the Gateway.ipfs.io executable and I don't believe it is at the IPFS Github repository. Did I miss it?
<richardlitt>
I'm guessing this is actually in go-ipfs?
<whyrusleeping>
yeap
<whyrusleeping>
'ipfs daemon'
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<noffle>
whyrusleeping: o/ we always copy files on 'ipfs add', right? no sym/hardlinking yet?
<Kubuxu>
Detecting CoW filesystem, freezing file and using it would be sooo awesome.
<Kubuxu>
but it would requite custom datastore.
<Kubuxu>
method
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<Kubuxu>
Is anyone coming to squatconf in Berlin 30 April, big part of cjdns team is coming?
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<whyrusleeping>
dignifiedquire: could you add some timing stuff into randor?
<whyrusleeping>
like, some indication of ops per second
<whyrusleeping>
or, average time for each different operation type
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<dignifiedquire>
whyrusleeping: individual api calls, or just the overall ops
<whyrusleeping>
would be nice to see both actually
<dignifiedquire>
hmm
<dignifiedquire>
that's going to be tricky
<whyrusleeping>
but either one makes me happy
<dignifiedquire>
will think about it
<conway>
Greetings. I'm not seeing it immediately, but are the comms between 2 machines when a block is requested encrypted by your Public/Private keys of the grantor node?
<conway>
So, if we have nodes X and Y, and block Q: X asks the network for piece Q. Y responds. Is the reply of piece Q to node X encrypted?
<TomasBond>
how can i check all the hashes i have?
<TomasBond>
in the ipfs folder?
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<Kubuxu>
ipfs refs local
<Kubuxu>
TomasBond: ^^
<TomasBond>
lol, srry for noobs questions
<TomasBond>
i think you may want to kill me
<Kubuxu>
:P
<Kubuxu>
/kill TomasBond
<TomasBond>
if i delete the original hashed file, the hash also gets deleted?
<Kubuxu>
not a problem
<Kubuxu>
nope
<conway>
hopefully my question isn't as noobish :)
<Kubuxu>
files is copied into internal IPFS storage
<TomasBond>
but will get unavailable
<whyrusleeping>
conway: all communication between peers is encrypted
<Kubuxu>
conway: I think all communication is encrypted so I think yes.
<Kubuxu>
TomasBond: it will be available inside IPFS.
<whyrusleeping>
its fairly easy for someone to see what data you are requesting though by sitting on the dht and connecting to you
<whyrusleeping>
you broadcast out what objects you are searching for
<whyrusleeping>
(as per kademlia spec)
<conway>
That's superb :) I can forward that to my IT team to further look at. You've won me over. I work for a slightly large university. Look at my hostname :)
<conway>
People are still wanting encryption on everything. I understand it's not needed, due to the multihash and self-referential structure. But... those people in the security office are "interesting" :)
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<TomasBond>
@Kubuxu i used that command and gave me unlimited amount of hashes
<TomasBond>
and in the computer i have just 1
<conway>
@TomasBond: thats because every ipfs object has a hash, and your computer stores hashes for a while after you go to them. Now, are you talking about pinned content?
<TomasBond>
what i did, i installed ipfs on a newly installed ubuntu 15.1 vps
<TomasBond>
moved a movie to the same folder
<TomasBond>
and add the file
<Kubuxu>
TomasBond: it stores some default stuff distributed with go-ipfs
<TomasBond>
a hash was gaved to me
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<Kubuxu>
tutorial, readme, webui and so on.
<conway>
Yep. Because the content has an initial ipfs address, and every 256k block ALSO has a ipfs block address.
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted makefile-fixes at 6c74ac0: https://git.io/vaOTP
<whyrusleeping>
that way the questions you ask can have their answers available for everyone else who might ask
<Kubuxu>
I can recover it in just a sec
<TomasBond>
okey i will use that page also! im thinking about doing a spanish tutorial
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: okay, i'd be interested in having you run a decent number of operations on it (the operations that are slow for you)
<whyrusleeping>
and then give me the output of: curl localhost:5001/debug/vars
<whyrusleeping>
TomasBond: that would actually be really helpful, having more multilingual stuff would be great :)
<TomasBond>
but first i wanna know how this work so i can explain others in my language
<TomasBond>
the right way
<Kubuxu>
I should run them in background or cancel them?
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<TomasBond>
what was the command to list pinned hashs?
<conway>
ipfs pin ls
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<conway>
@whyrusleeping I just sent the email asking to clarify the license. And also asked permission to share via IPFS.
<whyrusleeping>
conway: awesome, thank you very much :)
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: just run them for a bit and cancel them
<whyrusleeping>
that endpoint gathers cumulative statistics over the life of the daemon
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<conway>
whyrusleeping: gladly. One of the first things I see is this network allows users to publish content that they'd never be able to host themselves... Suddenly, we're looking at solving the https://xkcd.com/949/ problem.
<Kubuxu>
about 100x `ipfs files ls /public` which hangs
<conway>
One of my first discussions will be to see how we can create a shared database between multiple universities of some of our multi-TB datasets.
<TomasBond>
whats does recursive near hash means?
<Kubuxu>
Remember that file is break down into pieces, recursive means that sub-hashes will also be pinned.
<TomasBond>
ohh right
<TomasBond>
those are the root hashes?
<whyrusleeping>
conway: that xkcd is so relevant, its a problem we're intent on solving
<whyrusleeping>
and for the most part, i use ipfs to send files to people personally. Its really the easiest way i've found
<TomasBond>
and how you do that?
<TomasBond>
so i are near me
<Kubuxu>
if you pin root hash recursively, it will keep all hashes require to recreate that file
<TomasBond>
i wanna share a file with you
<Kubuxu>
ipfs add FILE
<Kubuxu>
send me the hash
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<Kubuxu>
I can access it then.
<TomasBond>
but
<TomasBond>
im a person who doesnt know what ipfs is
<TomasBond>
and doesnt want to even bother to download an "app"
<TomasBond>
and i have seen video sourche to ipfs.io.pic
<conway>
Yeah, I'm doing a great deal with Tor. Mainly, it's my way to make a global network look local. (As in, all my machines have .onion and tcp/22, and .onion resolves as standard dns name)
<conway>
I figured a while back how to get linux to handle .onion in anywhere that asks for an IP/DNS address. So, I have node-red talking to all sorts of things, all from and to .onions
<conway>
So, IPFS is the last piece in that, with a file store that can be accessed by all. Know the hash, know the data :)
<conway>
Coming from an academic viewpoint, it looks somewhat like IPFS without as much rigor. It's good for now, but in 10 years, I can see IPFS running on sattelite uplinks to the moon, Earth, Mars, and Venus. Zeronet wouldnt be capable of that.
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: is your drive broken or something?
<whyrusleeping>
you can read other files on that disk, right?
<TomasBond>
mmmm seems i dont know the truly power of ipfs
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<TomasBond>
can u send me to a webpage threw ipfs
<TomasBond>
?
<TomasBond>
pls can u send me an index.html hash file :D
<conway>
My personal project right now is to port jor1k.com (with github repos) to an IPFS client full Linux stack.
<conway>
Here's something I did. I wrote a facial recognition program for our convention last year. It's made from QT5 and OpenCV. Here's my repo: /ipfs/Qmf6nf4cnyqen8DcRV3xc8wwvRHE9JUsSPPfpPJmDPMLC5
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<conway>
just do a "git clone [above link]" and you'll clone my code. It's also on github/jwcrawley/uWho
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: without any problems
<Kubuxu>
but it might be some corruption, IDK.
<Kubuxu>
let's just scrap it for now and check if it retures.
<Kubuxu>
returns
<whyrusleeping>
okay, the statistics show some weird stuff
<whyrusleeping>
50,000 calls to has block
<whyrusleeping>
5 calls to actually read a block
<whyrusleeping>
and one read error
<TomasBond>
so know that i am entering the hash
<TomasBond>
i am "downloading and seeding it"?
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<TomasBond>
uhh lol
<TomasBond>
i cant read your repo
<conway>
Once you have some or all the chunks, yes, you would also provide it to other computers if the network is asked about that hash.
<conway>
right now, i'm getting a crash course in Go-Lang so I might be able to help the maintainers. I'm mainly a C/C++/JS programmer.
<conway>
thank you :)
<TomasBond>
sell it to england homeland security
<TomasBond>
they have cameras everywhere
<conway>
I was looking at selling it to retail stores so they could map customers in stores. Think of a Harry Potter Maurauders Map, but real.
<TomasBond>
and what for? whats the comercial use for that?
<TomasBond>
anti thief?
<conway>
say they want to figure out traffic patterns. If they know where higher trafficed areas are in the store, they can place higher margin goods there. Or, they can uniquely track your position and know what you buy and where you go.
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<TomasBond>
can the system remember your face?
<conway>
Sure can.
<conway>
And it also learns, so if it looks at you longer, it will get better recognition of you.
<TomasBond>
whats the minium requirement the software needs to work properly?
<TomasBond>
like what camera does it needs
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<conway>
I was running it on a 6 year old laptop with no GPU acceleration. Does 1024x768 at 15 FPS.
<TomasBond>
ill try to sell it for you here in argentina
<TomasBond>
;)
<conway>
Any webcam :)
<TomasBond>
so secuirity cameras work fine?
<conway>
Absolutely. I have to reduce to grayscale in order to recognize people anyways.
<TomasBond>
it sound awesone
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<conway>
But I'm also looking at using ipns for my pointer to databases I work on. I can always work on a current dataset and save changes. Of course, there is also working with blockchains, but that's a different tool.
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<conway>
I've got to head on out of here. Going to the hardware shop to buy some M3x25 schrews for my 3d printer I'm building (Reprap Kossel)
<conway>
Everyone, have a great day :)
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<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vaO8Z
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs/master 64073cb David Dias: Merge pull request #80 from ipfs/cleanup...
<daviddias>
with domains, we would still have the 'same error firing at several places' and I guess that is the correct feature, but it is just too expensive to receive a bunch of parallel calls to dial
<daviddias>
I guess one way could be to implment some kind of 'dial locks'
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<daviddias>
or maybe just support multiple dials in parallel and don't worry about the handshake overhead
<voxelot>
so the problem is when a stream is multiplexed, and the originating steam goes down, all of the connected streams would redial correct?
<daviddias>
voxelot: without a 'clever' solution, yes
<voxelot>
yeah even if the multiplex was wrapped in a domain, if the core stream fails, the domain would act on all the others i think
<voxelot>
grrr
<daviddias>
because something that uses libp2p should just trust libp2p to dial in the best way to another peer, that might mean 'relayed conn', multiplex conn, direct conn and so on
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<voxelot>
so as it stands our best option is to handle edge cases and try to logic out way out of multi dials
<voxelot>
s/out/our
<voxelot>
until someone smarter in here comes up with a solution :)
<daviddias>
probably with some kind of 'dial locks'
<daviddias>
voxelot: let's keep the ideas flowing on the github issue :)
<whyrusleeping>
anyone know how to get a github username from an email address?
<r0kk3rz>
whyrusleeping: only if they publish their email
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<whyrusleeping>
this is the best thing thats happened today
<daviddias>
ahahah :D
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<whyrusleeping>
now people can finally stop commenting
<daviddias>
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<montagsoup>
none of the smiley faces seem to be crying with laughter though. I feel my emotional responses being limited
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<montagsoup>
or like a nice coffee coming out of nose icon
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<richardlitt>
O.o
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<whyrusleeping>
montagsoup: developers are expected to portray only a limit subset of human emotion
<montagsoup>
ive been learning so many new ones recently though!
<whyrusleeping>
"that doesnt look terrible", "that looks absolutely horrendous", "i'm happy i didnt have to write this", "you might be stupid", "you make me feel funny inside", and "i wish i had time to party"
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<whyrusleeping>
so github gave us emoticons for each of those
<whyrusleeping>
but really, this is awesome stuff. and its good to see github actually adding features
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<montagsoup>
they even look alright in a textbased browser. Very discriptive alt text.
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<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-babel-core-6.7.2 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vaO5G
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-babel-core-6.7.2 49de5d0 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update babel-core to version 6.7.2...
<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #294: babel-core@6.7.2 breaks build
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs] RichardLitt created feature/block (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vaOdf
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs/feature/block 0abed00 Richard Littauer: Stubbed out resources and routes
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[js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-babel-core-6.7.2 at 49de5d0: https://git.io/vaOdL
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs] RichardLitt opened pull request #81: WIP Stubbed out resources and routes (master...feature/block) https://git.io/vaOdO
<noffle>
daviddias: why would the multiplexed streams try to redial? aren't these transport-ignorant data channels over a common transport? I'd expect the responsibility of redialing to happen at the socket level.
<noffle>
i.e. streams don't understand "dialing" -- just shuffling data around.
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<TomasBond>
i have a question, if i get an .mp4 file and i hash it, and another person hashes the exact same .mp4 file
<TomasBond>
hashes will be the same?
<brimstone>
TomasBond: should be
<ion>
If hashed using the same settings
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<xicombd>
hey all!
<voxelot>
hey xicombd!
<voxelot>
i see your js stuff all the time, lets be frands
<xicombd>
ahah :D
<voxelot>
<- nginnever on github
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<TomasBond>
noob question
<TomasBond>
in ubuntu i used the rm command to delete a big file
<xicombd>
voxelot: ah cool! I've seen that username around :)
<TomasBond>
but it seems to be arround somewhere
<TomasBond>
how can i free that space?
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<ion>
TomasBond: If a process is holding the file open, tell the process to close it or kill the process.
<TomasBond>
@ion ty for the answer!
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<ion>
TomasBond: lsof -n | grep deleted might be useful.
<TomasBond>
another thing, i closed my terminal windows
<TomasBond>
and didnt get note of the hash i recently did
<TomasBond>
how can i look for it
<TomasBond>
i know the file name
<TomasBond>
but not the hash
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<ianopolous_>
Kubuxu: I'm very tempted to go to squatconf
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<deltab>
TomasBond: add it again
<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #295: babel-polyfill@6.7.2 breaks build
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<TomasBond>
how can i leave the daemon running in my vps?
<TomasBond>
when i close the terminal, i close the daemon
<achin>
you can run the deamon under screen or tmux