<whyrusleeping>
dread_: well, we havent tried compiling it on android in a while
<whyrusleeping>
i'm not set up to do so (nor is anyone else on the core team that i know of)
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<dread_>
ok, understood
<whyrusleeping>
dread_: if you do give it a shot, please let us know
<whyrusleeping>
i'm quite interested in how that would pan out
<dread_>
android or stereoscopic VR?
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<noffle>
palkeo: I'd try to rope whyrusleeping in on the discussion -- he knows the codebase well and might have a better idea of where that logic would belong than I. the hackiest way would be to short-circuit in core.Resolve() if we fail a resolve on a key we recognize to be the pubkey of our own local repo, but again, there may be a better place for it
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<whyrusleeping>
dread_: i was referring to android
<dread_>
ah, yes, me too :)
<whyrusleeping>
but VR is awesome too
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<jbenet>
lgierth: noticing something weird, sometimes gateway requests take a long time (not sure if terminate, i refresh usually), sometimes immediate. not sure what's up.
<Qwertie>
whyrusleeping, Whats different in 4.0 that broke compatibility?
<whyrusleeping>
jbenet: i give a 90% likelyhood of that being multireq
<achin>
channel URL could be updated
<Qwertie>
*0.4
<whyrusleeping>
Qwertie: the network handshake was change to be more modular
<whyrusleeping>
its incompatible with 0.3.*, but going forwards it can negotiate with anyone
<jbenet>
achin how do?
<achin>
dunno! you probably have to talk to ChanServ
<jbenet>
it's always so longggg
<whyrusleeping>
i got it
<whyrusleeping>
uh
<jbenet>
got it
<whyrusleeping>
nvm, apparently only you can
<achin>
clearly you should write a robot to talk to the chanserv robot
<lgierth>
jbenet: i'll look into it right on monday
<lgierth>
going to bed now -- home sweet home
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<physes>
hi everyone, i'm doing a c-based ncurses journal/calendar app using ipfs. is there an api for c or is there another way of doing it?
<jbenet>
lgierth sgtm
<jbenet>
lgierth yay \o/ did you train? sleep well.
<lgierth>
i laptop-on-a-plane'd
<lgierth>
:)
<jbenet>
physes would have to gover the api or the cli.
<lgierth>
got one part of the cjdns pathfinder visualizer built
<lgierth>
and right when it worked, the steward tipped my shoulder because we're about to land
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<jbenet>
hahaha
<physes>
jbenet api probably best for users. which api version/language is best?
* lgierth
zzz
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<Qwertie>
Is there any reason IPNS uses a short time to live instead of an incrementing number to find the latest version? Every ipns name I have tried to resolve has expired
<jbenet>
physes not sure go and js are most fleshed out clients, but we'll need a c or c++ one
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<jbenet>
Qwertie cryptographic freshness.
<jbenet>
thats the short answer
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<jbenet>
in reality you need both/either depending on case
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<dyce_>
does ipfs work on a lan with no internet?
<dyce_>
so if LAN client A hashes a file, then LAN client B could retrieve it with ipfs cat?
<jbenet>
dyce_ yes but depends on whether they can find each other. (mdns works, etc)
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<Qwertie>
Would they be able to find each other without the dht bootstrap nodes?
<brimstone>
Qwertie: yup, you can remove all of the bootstrap nodes and two ipfs nodes will find each other with just mdns
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[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #270: babel-core@6.6.5 breaks build
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[go-ipfs] sivachandran opened pull request #2445: Support for listing only cached links in refs command (master...cached_refs) https://git.io/v2b9D
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[go-ipfs] sivachandran closed pull request #2445: Support for listing only cached links in refs command (master...cached_refs) https://git.io/v2b9D
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] sivachandran opened pull request #2446: Support for listing only cached links in refs command (master...cached_refs_v4) https://git.io/v2NJC
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<Kubuxu>
dignifiedquire: sorry. It has to be my pocket.
<dignifiedquire>
Kubuxu: :D no worries was just wondering what was so important
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<brimstone>
`ipfs get QmeWz9YZEeNFXQhHg4PnR5ZiNr5isttgi5n1tc1eD5EfGU` ?
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<wa7son>
daviddias: why don’t you have a github link in the peer-id module?
<wa7son>
daviddias: and does it really need Node.js ^4.3.0?
<wa7son>
brimstone: thanks :)
<wa7son>
brimstone: I’m using the node module ipfs - I guess it’s not 100% ready yet. What CLI would you recommend I use instead?
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<wa7son>
Just installed the latest ipfs for mac via the website and I can to a `cat` just fine. but when I try the `ipfs get …` command I get an "merkledag: not found” error. Any ideas?
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<wa7son>
yangwao: when running `make install`it tells me `fatal: Program gx is not installed!` though I just installed it by typing `make toolkit_upgrade` - so I guess I did something wrong or something
<yangwao>
mm
<yangwao>
maybe try remove gx
<yangwao>
from actual pwd, do `rm -rf ../../../gx/` could do that thing
<yangwao>
and try one more time
<yangwao>
it will fetch new one, i'm not gx person, but it fixed for me some errors, cc: whyrusleeping :)
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<wa7son>
same error. Well I’ll see if whyrusleeping have some thoughts
<yangwao>
wa7son: and did you made go get -u github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs ?
<yangwao>
maybe gx_upgrade and gx-go is missing, dunno
<wa7son>
yangwao: the toolkit_upgrade does fetch it… but for some reason it doesn’t find it afterwards
<wa7son>
yangwao: but don’t worry :) I’ll figure it out later
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<yangwao>
wa7son: do you runnig daemon? better kill if it's 0.3.x
<yangwao>
:)
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<wa7son>
yangwao: nope it’s killed
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<kingflurkel>
diasdavid present here?
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<achin>
daviddias: ^
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<C-Keen>
how long does a publish operation take?
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<C-Keen>
ipfs ls /ipfs/QmUYh9NG5dw4nBLReKJx9sb7FbTQ1X4poR6ziVr15wD7ft works fine
<C-Keen>
also cat'ing the test file below
<C-Keen>
but when I run ipfs name publish /ipfs/QmUYh9NG5dw4nBLReKJx9sb7FbTQ1X4poR6ziVr15wD7ft it just sits there seemlingly forever, I abort the command after 5 minutes
<C-Keen>
is there some verbosity flag I can use to get more info on what's actually taking up the time?
<C-Keen>
this is with current master on OpenBSD (which may be part of the problem as I am just starting to get it to work here)
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<C-Keen>
ah my daemon was hanging somehow
<C-Keen>
sorry for all my grumbling
<disgusting_wall>
sometimes my daemon gets disconnected from the network somehow and i have to ipfs init again
<disgusting_wall>
not a current complaint, just a corroborating observation ^
<C-Keen>
ipfs init? That would mean a new key pair no? Restarting the daemon worked for me
<disgusting_wall>
i think my problem didn't resolve on a restart unfortunately
<disgusting_wall>
it wasn't a big deal though
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<C-Keen>
I see
<C-Keen>
are there tools that aren't as low level as the raw ipfs command? looks like this makes publishing a bit cumbersome
<disgusting_wall>
i don't know of any, but what would you do, chain two or more commands together?
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<C-Keen>
I am currently thinking of how I can change my website generator to also publish on ipfs, and yes this would basically mean chaining ipfs add and ipfs name publish together I think, while using the ipns hash as the "base-url" internally
<disgusting_wall>
in a nodejs program i'm working on i use an API to connect to my ipfs node, but i don't really chain many commands together. the most complex logic is "ipfs name resolve, add stuff to the object returned, ipfs add the new object and ipfs name publish the resulting hash"
<C-Keen>
(I don't know whether this makes any sense to someone who isn't me :))
<C-Keen>
right
<C-Keen>
I came across ZeroNet the other day and what those folks seem to focus on is how easy it is to distribute some website to the local machine, it's like automatic pinning in ipfs
<disgusting_wall>
so you make a html file, add and publish it, and use the ipns hash as the reference to that document from other documents?
<C-Keen>
yes
<disgusting_wall>
because i think that would require one node per ipns key as of now
<disgusting_wall>
i think adding the ability to publish using multiple keys on one node is a feature goal, but i don't think it's possible right now
<C-Keen>
hm, maybe I don't understand that fully yet. I imagined that I publish a directory of files under a ipns node
<C-Keen>
the contents of the subtree may change, but old documents aren't changed (besides the index document containing the last X posts for example)
<disgusting_wall>
well yes that's possible
<disgusting_wall>
add the whole folder, then publish the folder's hash
<C-Keen>
but maybe I should add another indirection layer so I can post more stuff with the same node key if that's what you were saying
<disgusting_wall>
yeah, like a root folder that holds different sites
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<C-Keen>
so 43jifodj438fjf/blog/stuff instead of 43jifodj438fjf/stuff
<C-Keen>
aye
<disgusting_wall>
exactly
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<C-Keen>
ok then I got that right
<disgusting_wall>
because if you're trying to host multiple types of sites/content in one folder it could get messy
<disgusting_wall>
i haven't tried this, but i think you can edit multi-file objects without republishing the entire thing
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<C-Keen>
if the links itself would use object hashes that would still work I think but it's messy
<disgusting_wall>
that could be another thing to look into so you don't have to re-add the whole thing every time it updates
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<C-Keen>
I would expect it only to re-add the parts where the hashes have changed
<C-Keen>
and recalculate to the root of the tree
<disgusting_wall>
oh yeah, that's the problem. if you store the whole thing under a single object, internal references would go out of date if you changed things
<C-Keen>
true
<disgusting_wall>
whereas if each file had its own ipNs key the reference would always be valid
<C-Keen>
it would be quite a waste though for files that won't change
<C-Keen>
but then say if I link to /ipns/ojfji34j8j3f3o4joi43f43/index.html from inside the subtree that would always be pointing to the latest version would it not?
<disgusting_wall>
it would
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<C-Keen>
then I don't see the problem yet
<C-Keen>
(if there is any)
<disgusting_wall>
so as long as you don't delete anything, or just change the content, then it'll be fine
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<disgusting_wall>
so that's still a restriction on naming things but it's less onerous
<C-Keen>
also as I understand it, content that has been published once cannot be deleted, if someone else pins it for them?
<C-Keen>
so as in SFS once you know the hash of the node you want to get add you can get the content from the network (I guess that's a feature)
<daviddias>
so, IPFS should now be installed correctly through make install
<wa7son>
installing...
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<wa7son>
daviddias: cool - now it’s installed and I migrated my db from v2 to v3
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<wa7son>
daviddias: I started the daemon by running `ipfs daemon` and now I’m trying to run `ipfs object stat QmeWz9YZEeNFXQhHg4PnR5ZiNr5isttgi5n1tc1eD5EfGU` but I get no response. It’s just hanging. Am I doing something wrong?
<wa7son>
daviddias: get a lot of "swarm listener accept error"
<wa7son>
(from the daemon)
<daviddias>
those errors are normal
<daviddias>
do ipfs swarm peers in another terminal window
<wa7son>
ok :)
<daviddias>
and check how many peers you are connected
<daviddias>
where did you get that hash from?
<daviddias>
Alexandria?
<wa7son>
yes
<wa7son>
33 peers
<daviddias>
they use 0.3.11 I believe, it is not network compatible with 0.4.0
<daviddias>
you need to run 0.3.11
<wa7son>
dang
<daviddias>
so close
<daviddias>
:D
<wa7son>
hehe… this p2p stuff…
<wa7son>
daviddias: I want to try and share something… how do I do that?
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<yangwao>
're-vendoring everything' xD
* yangwao
is just hassling with docker on ARMv7
<yangwao>
total mess
<daviddias>
ipfs add
<daviddias>
get the hash
<daviddias>
and share the hash
<daviddias>
for example, through a pub gateway
<daviddias>
ipfs.io/ipfs/HASH
<wa7son>
testing..
<yangwao>
wa7son: you can do ipfs get QmaPdriTN9hr6T8SiLozGetAExEKmjvna4m6RfND2yxaGz