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<revolve>
whyrusleeping: how do you feel about synchrony?
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<chungy>
Hi all, I'm not sure that ipns is working for me. If I try to load something like /ipns/boards.ydns.eu, it just never loads... are there any other hosts I might try, or check to see if a configuration is wrong?
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<tmg>
chungy: how long did you wait?
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<tmg>
chungy: We are planning to support no-javascript clients in the future.
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<chungy>
tmg: it took about 2-3 minutes for it to eventually say it couldn't resolve the name
<chungy>
Hm? I have Javascript.
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<tmg>
chungy: why don't web devs support the no-javascript out of the box?
<tmg>
chungy: try `ipfs name resolve /ipns/boards.ydns.eu`
<chungy>
I can resolve the name, but doing an ls on the hash seems to not resolve...
<tmg>
That might be the problem, but I don't know anything about pre-0.4 IPFS, sorry
<chungy>
0.4.0 doesn't have a stable release yet, heh. I could try using it.
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<chungy>
it doesn't build for me :/
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<tmg>
did you type `make install`?
<chungy>
I need to install gx-go it seems
<tmg>
did `make install` fail?
<chungy>
yeah
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<chungy>
looks like there's a go-ipfs-git in the AUR, following those commands seems to work
<chungy>
building...
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<chungy>
It doesn't help when my normal network connection goes away...
<chungy>
well, besides confusing me, after it came back, 0.4.0-rc3 does work with ipns.
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<chungy>
I've got a lot of messages appearing from the daemon such as "ERROR mdns: mdns lookup error: failed to bind to any unicast udp port mdns.go:130"
<Boomerang>
You can disable mdns, not sure if it's the right solution but it worked for me
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2511: Allow users to override the IPFS API address when fetching dependencies (master...local-api) https://git.io/vVTnT
<whyrusleeping>
0.4.0 switches to an on disk git-like format
<whyrusleeping>
and moving forward, we will have a very configurable storage format
<Boomerang>
Yeah :D (I hope you're not doing it just for me though ^^ I can't join the hangout, I'm in a big hall with lots of people)
<whyrusleeping>
Boomerang: nah, voxelot is there too
<jbenet>
Boomerang: it's good to keep protocol / habits :)
<Evermore>
whyrusleeping: My concern was that when I previously used rsync for backups, I had to worry whether my external NTFS disk would mess up the files in some way. But Git seems to work okay on NTFS so I expect IPFS will too, because it's not trying to recreate ext3 on NTFS
<whyrusleeping>
and there are generally others watching
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<VictorBjelkholm>
whyrusleeping, speaking about the file descriptor leak, might be worthwhile to publish the quick fix somewhere with a tutorial how to implement
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<VictorBjelkholm>
how to fix with the utp address stuff
<Boomerang>
Give an example of a utp address we can use :)
<VictorBjelkholm>
Boomerang, bingo
<whyrusleeping>
okay, so in your ipfs config file, under Addresses.Swarm
<whyrusleeping>
add "/ip4/0.0.0.0/udp/4002/utp" to the array
<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #307: react@0.14.8 breaks build
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<VictorBjelkholm>
jbenet, something that bothers me with the dns outage, is that people using the dnslink cheat with ipfs.io/ipns/domain, goes down when dns for ipfs.io goes down
<VictorBjelkholm>
maybe there is a different way of getting the dns routing to work...
<VictorBjelkholm>
jbenet, haha, thanks
<jbenet>
yeah i'd love to find creative solutions
<lgierth>
another issue that i wanna tackle is when the provider of <domain> goes down
<lgierth>
in the case of ipfs.io/ipns/<domain>
<lgierth>
we can take some precautions within go-ipfs there
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<Boomerang>
Nice hangout by the way, it's cool to see how involved in this amazing project all of you are!
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<onlnr>
I heard that the dht traffic is not optimized, and it taking some 10kB/s of ones bandwidth can be optimized to take like almost nothing. How prioritized and arduous is that task?
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<yuvipanda>
hello
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<yuvipanda>
I'm going to be at the Jupyter dev meeting today, and hopefully convincing more people that IPFS is a very interesting solution to the 'publishing research' problem
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<richardlitt>
Boomerang: Thanks! :D
<richardlitt>
yuvipanda: Cool!
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<ruby32>
anyone aware of any voting protocols existing on the IPFS network at the momen
<xelra>
What do you want to vote on?
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<ruby32>
doing research on voting protocols, wondering if any exist already. can be any type of voting
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<whyrusleeping>
ruby32: have you looked at crdts?
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<ruby32>
can't find anything on that via google, other than the npm page
<ruby32>
and one or two github issues mentioning it
<multivac>
[WIKIPEDIA] Conflict-free replicated data type | "In distributed computing, a conflict-free replicated data type (abbreviated CRDT) is a type of specially-designed data structure used to achieve strong eventual consistency (SEC) and monotonicity (absence of rollbacks). There are two alternative routes to ensuring SEC: operation-based CRDTs and state..."
<ansuz>
that's the one
<yuvipanda>
richardlitt: would be great if 0.4.0 was released soon tho :D
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<whyrusleeping>
yuvipanda: tell me aobout it
<yuvipanda>
:D
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<lgierth>
nah i'd rather wait a little longer
<lgierth>
waiting is good, grows excitement haha :D
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<cdata>
VictorBjelkholm: as a relative noob to the whole IPFS ecosystem, could you explain how this improves over gx?
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<cdata>
(to clarify because I realize my phrasing was ambiguous: I am the noob)
<VictorBjelkholm>
cdata, hah, I got that :) Well, gx is a language agnostic package manager, everythingstays is a way of reusing NPM CLI for fetching and publishing modules to IPFS
<VictorBjelkholm>
in the future, we might be able to use gx from everythingstays
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<cdata>
Ah, I see. Is it even possible to hook the NPM CLI so that you can take over fetching dependencies entirely (e.g., to let gx do it instead for some subset of dependencies)?