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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/saving-deps-in-git-is-for-quitters-and-i-guess-i-am-a-quitter: https://git.io/v2XPT
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/saving-deps-in-git-is-for-quitters-and-i-guess-i-am-a-quitter 45926cd Jeromy: fix path rewriting...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v2XDl
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master d2b9ff4 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2422 from ipfs/docs/config-add-as...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/saving-deps-in-git-is-for-quitters-and-i-guess-i-am-a-quitter: https://git.io/v2XDA
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/saving-deps-in-git-is-for-quitters-and-i-guess-i-am-a-quitter 38d364e Jeromy: install instructions back to make install...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2416: Makes install from source instructions clearer. (master...readme_plusplus) https://git.io/v22Du
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-stream-http-2.2.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v2X5A
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-stream-http-2.2.0 0068003 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update stream-http to version 2.2.0...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-stream-http-2.2.0 at 0068003: https://git.io/v21qP
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2424: Add default to dns resolve (master...docs/dns-resolve-default) https://git.io/v2PMu
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feat/low-mem-experiment at c809589: https://git.io/v2100
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/low-mem-experiment (+2 new commits): https://git.io/v210g
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/low-mem-experiment 2950a20 Jeromy: introduce low memory flag...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/low-mem-experiment e0c8a13 Jeromy: low memory setting for bitswap...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2429: introduce a low memory flag (master...feat/low-mem-experiment) https://git.io/v210y
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<M-Nickfost> i wish understood go
<M-Nickfost> i
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v21EF
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 22fcd18 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2100 from jedahan/smarter-launchd-install...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 77bfa9d Jonathan Dahan: More robust version checking...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2093: Change mDNS service string to conform to RFC6763 standard. (master...mdns-conformance) https://git.io/v0HzO
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<haad> morning
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<cristian_> \q
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<ansuz> daviddias: ping
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<M-1976> test
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<M-davidar> Hey everyone, guest access should be enabled for https://vector.im/beta/#/room/#ipfs:matrix.org now :) (cc jbenet)
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<daviddias> ansuz: pong
<daviddias> all good?
<daviddias> ansuz: looking for op on #cjdns? Just gave it you since you are the one I know personally
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<ansuz> daviddias: yes, thanks
<ansuz> :)
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #2430: Feature: `ipfs repo stat` (master...feat/repo-stat) https://git.io/v2MLU
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<NeoTeo> Hi guys. I'm having real probs getting anything I add locally to resolve on the gateway. I'm running 0.4.0-dev and have plenty of peers, but even asking a peer (dht findprovs) doesn't find my hashes and always ends in "routing not found". Ideas?
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<M-davidar> .tell jbenet check out what's #2 on vector.im now :)
<multivac> M-davidar: I'll pass that on when jbenet is around.
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<MrChrisJ> hi, how do I delete my IPFS Keys and leave it empty ready for a new initialisation?
<kseistrup> MrChrisJ: you could just delete the config file and do another "ipfs init".
<MrChrisJ> ah ok great
<MrChrisJ> thank you
<kseistrup> :)
<MrChrisJ> I deleted the whole .ipfs folder actually, it works too
<kseistrup> that's right, except you lose all the blocks you've already downloaded.
<MrChrisJ> yeah that’s fine, I am making a disk image for lots of new users so I want it to be nice and fresh
<kseistrup> cool
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<mmuller> Apologies if this has come up before, but: http://zeronet.io
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<mmuller> This seems to have some overlap with IPFS and might possibly have some complementary functionality.
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<M-sivachandran> Anyone using S3 as IPFS datastore? I tried with 0.4.0-dev by changing the config but getting "The specified key does not exist" error.
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<whyrusleeping> so i literally have limited bandwidth until then
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<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: any idea about S3 as IPFS datastore?
<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: it can be done fairly readily, but the perf on it will take some woek
<whyrusleeping> work*
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<sivachandran> I tried changing the "Datastore" section of the config file. But getting "The specified key does not exist" error. It looks like it is trying to retrieve a value for a key which is not there in the empty S3 bucket that I configured.
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<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: I even tried "ipfs init -e" to create empty repo and changed the Datastore config but no luck
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<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: the s3 code thats there right now doesnt quite work
<whyrusleeping> i'm surprised you got that far actually
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<whyrusleeping> actually.... mind filing an issue about that?
<whyrusleeping> and list the steps you've taken so far?
<Quiark> anyone managed to compile ipfs git remote helper recently?
<whyrusleeping> Quiark: getting errors?
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: sure will do. Is there any other PR for S3 support that I can have look at
<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: nope, not yet
<Quiark> whyrusleeping, yeah about dependency from code.google.com
<whyrusleeping> the s3 library we're using needs to be changed out, its got a bad license
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: is there any other scalable datastore(e.g. AWS DynamoDB) supported in IPFS?
<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: currently no, s3 was going to be the first one
<whyrusleeping> if there are any others you think we should support, definitely let us know
<whyrusleeping> its actually pretty easy to write those drivers
<whyrusleeping> Quiark: mind filing an issue on that repo? and tag me and the author in it
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: i can definitely try to wire up the s3gof3r library if it is just the driver implementation
<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: yeah, that should be all thats needed
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<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: but wondering will there be any other part in IPFS i need to touch
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: assuming we implement the S3 support, do you see any problem in running multiple IPFS nodes sharing same datastore like S3?
<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: hrm...
<whyrusleeping> if they both only use the s3 datastore for blocks, it should be fine
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<whyrusleeping> but if they use it for other datastore things like storing the root pinkey, or other mutable things
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<whyrusleeping> you might run into an issue
<sivachandran> aah, that is something i also want to clarify. what IPFS stores in the default datastore leveldb? when we have key-value store like leveldb why IPFS also stores files under '/blocks' directory?
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<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: i looked at this https://github.com/ipfs/specs/tree/master/repo/fs-repo but couldn't understand what exactly getting stored under '/blocks' and how it is related to leveldb
<whyrusleeping> okay, so the blocks directory is a database we wrote called flatfs
<whyrusleeping> it stores all of the content addressed blobs
<whyrusleeping> its very fast on read and write, but its not designed objects to be changed often (which is fine, because content addressing)
<whyrusleeping> everything else that does need to be changed with some amount of frequency gets stored in leveldb
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: oh, is it possible to use two different datastores for blobs and the dynamic data?
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<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: yeap! it is, and thats what ipfs currently does
<whyrusleeping> although its not as nicely configurable as i'd like yet
<sivachandran> then probably the way i configured the S3 datastore might not be correct. i specified only one datastore in the config.
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: is there an example that shows how to configure two different datastores?
<sivachandran> found this https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/9 (last comment) but not sure whether it is valid
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: different question, is there a way to find out the download progress/percentage of an object?
<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: we're working on getting more progress bars, but for now you can do something like `ipfs cat <object> > outputfile`
<whyrusleeping> and it will print you a progress bar while thats happening
<sivachandran> i am trying to change the 'refs -r' to have an option to list only local refs and derive the download percentage based on the no. of unresolved refs.
<sivachandran> my requirement is getting the progress without initiating the actual download
<sivachandran> i am thinking to download(i.e. refs -r/get/pin) the object in the background and determine the progress in the foreground by resolving the local refs of the object
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<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: the formats in that notes issue would be awesome to have
<whyrusleeping> but they arent implemented
<whyrusleeping> as for listing only local refs, `ipfs refs local` would be a good place to look for starting
<whyrusleeping> if you file an issue about that change i can provide some pointers there
<sivachandran> oh, then i presume we can't specify two different datastore in the current implementation
<sivachandran> yes 'refs local' helps but i am afraid it would return huge list of refs when the datastore grows in GBs/TBs
<whyrusleeping> right, so what i would do there is to use the blockstore (like refs local does) to construct an 'offline' dagservice
<whyrusleeping> and then use that dagservice to enumerate refs in the way that 'ipfs refs -r' does normally
<sivachandran> yes, that is exactly what I am trying to do.
<sivachandran> i am using IPFS through its web APIs. so i can't directly use the dagservice hence trying to modify the actual 'refs' command implementation to provide additional option for this
<sivachandran> how does IPFS embed mode work? can run IPFS embedded app and IPFS daemon simultaneously or should it be either this or that
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<whyrusleeping> i think modifying the refs command is the right thing
<whyrusleeping> we've been wanting to have `--local` flags on a lot of commands for a while now
<Stskeeps> /g 19
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: will try to implement it
<sivachandran> whyrusleeping: thanks for your answers
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<whyrusleeping> sivachandran: definitely let me know if you run into any issues, i'll be around :)
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-wreck-7.0.1 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v2Dui
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-wreck-7.0.1 1b9029a greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update wreck to version 7.0.1...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/low-mem-experiment from e0c8a13 to 7d0c46a: https://git.io/vBS7s
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/low-mem-experiment 7d0c46a Jeromy: introduce low memory flag...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to fix/assert-gopath: https://git.io/v2D2F
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/assert-gopath 64c6943 Jeromy: remove trailing whitespace...
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<yangwao> aww https://zeronet.io/
<yangwao> well
<mmuller> yangwao: yeah, I pointed that out here before everybody was awake :-)
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<yangwao> 15:40 < mmu
<yangwao> got it in lastlog :P
<yangwao> guys are somewhere near to me
<yangwao> mmuller: are you from that team?
<mmuller> nope
<mmuller> trying it out is now on my todo list.
<yangwao> it's pretty complicated um
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<londoneye> hello!!!
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-eslint-plugin-promise-1.1.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v2DNz
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-eslint-plugin-promise-1.1.0 4c61ef1 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update eslint-plugin-promise to version 1.1.0...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-wreck-7.0.1 at 1b9029a: https://git.io/v2DjP
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v2yZH
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 6d4da61 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2399 from ipfs/fix/assert-gopath...
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<nicolagreco> I will be in SF this weekend, will anyone be around? ping jbenet (maybe) ?
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<whyrusleeping> nicolagreco: i think jbenet is in new york
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-eslint-plugin-promise-1.1.0 at 4c61ef1: https://git.io/v2yVR
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<ogd> yangwao: mmuller the title says 'Using the BitTorrent network' but what they mean is they simply use the BitTorrent tracker protocol for peer discovery and not the DHT or the rest of the BitTorrent protocol. Kind of weird they are using BitTorrent trackers when trackers leak the hashes everyone is sharing (because of the tracker scrape API)
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-babel-core-6.6.4 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v2yr8
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/greenkeeper-babel-core-6.6.4 7f331d5 greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update babel-core to version 6.6.4...
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<dyce_> would ethereum be considered a decentralized rest api of some sort?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] xicombd opened pull request #224: Add symlink support to feat/files-api (feat/files-api...feat/files-api-symlinks) https://git.io/v2yPY
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<montagsoup> So, the http api seems to default to json. Is there a way I can just make it output the plain text you get when using the cli?
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 4 new commits to feat/files-api: https://git.io/v2yD0
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api a994abc Francisco Baio Dias: Merge with master
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api 2b5472b Francisco Baio Dias: Fix expect on content-type header test
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/feat/files-api 86bc4fb Francisco Baio Dias: Add symlink support
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created fix/t0060-port-zero (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v2yDj
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/t0060-port-zero 63a9ed2 Jeromy: make t0060 use port zero...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] RichardLitt created docs/spelling-error (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v2yyy
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/docs/spelling-error 96204b5 Richard Littauer: Fix spelling error...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] RichardLitt opened pull request #2432: Fix spelling error (master...docs/spelling-error) https://git.io/v2yy7
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] diasdavid pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v2ySc
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master 094a640 Francisco Baio Dias: Auto set json and bool flags on config.set
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/master 796f15a David Dias: Merge pull request #221 from xicombd/config-set-flags...
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<Akaibu> whoop, hydrus just got another update with more ipfs related stuff whyrusleeping: https://8ch.net/hydrus/res/2173.html
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<Akaibu> also whyrusleeping, two other things to note, one is: for "finished"(closed) possible FAQ on https://github.com/ipfs/faq, should we maybe put in either the readme or another file in the faq repo a concise answer to a question based on responses?
<whyrusleeping> Akaibu: that might be a good idea. the github issues page isnt the most user friendly place to find answers
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<Akaibu> two is(more of a personal inquire that anything that would be useful to anyone else,likely): what exactly is there left to add to the current (binary) release that isn't just polish? seems to me that ipfs afaik is pretty stable and what not
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<Akaibu> sorry if thats just a wall of word vomit whyrusleeping
<whyrusleeping> Akaibu: the biggest changes were still working on are related to performance, data formats and connectivity
<whyrusleeping> so, we want to get transfer performance to be top notch, obviously. Thats going to take time and lots of work
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<whyrusleeping> we want to make it really easy for people to build custom replicatable data structures on top of ipfs
<whyrusleeping> right now thats a little obnoxious to do, but as we move forward, its going to get pretty simple
<Akaibu> nice
<whyrusleeping> and thirdly, we have issues with getting every peer connected to every peer it wants to connect to
<Akaibu> also whyrusleeping: its "the biggest changest WE'RE still working on" :)
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<whyrusleeping> pffft
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2433: make t0060 use port zero (master...fix/t0060-port-zero) https://git.io/v2y7o
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2432: Fix spelling error (master...docs/spelling-error) https://git.io/v2yy7
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2429: introduce a low memory flag (master...feat/low-mem-experiment) https://git.io/v210y
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<Akaibu> whyrusleeping: wasn't there a ideas repo?
<whyrusleeping> theres ipfs/notes
<Akaibu> wait maybe i'm thinking of the notes repo
<Akaibu> yea
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire deleted greenkeeper-babel-core-6.6.4 at 7f331d5: https://git.io/v2yF0
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<noffle> whyrusleeping: heya! in 0e312f5caff049073b3a6d8c9ff693c3c7389495 you unvendored dir-index-html -- guessing this was unintentional? I can readd it easily enough, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
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<whyrusleeping> noffle: if i remember correctly, i unvendored it because the tests expected to be able to find it at an exact path, and since it was a gx package, that was going to be obnoxious to do right.
<whyrusleeping> although i may be thinking of a different thing
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<noffle> no, that's right: it was in a non-multihash path
<noffle> but now it seems to be entirely gone from the repo, and is still a dep for asset generation
<noffle> for the moment, I suggest we staticly re-vendor as a non-gx package, for the sake of getting asset gen working again
<noffle> and think about "the gx way" to do it later