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<clemo>
hi, i am using js-ipfs-api to pin objects with specified timeout, see sample code: /ipfs/QmS6LomXdg4hvBXtti7dJ9aV3uwZ3Mxogt1ioSgpZ6jgX6, is the error code 0 correct? what would be the correct way do detect timeout errors?
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<johnlong[m]>
congrats whyrusleeping
<johnlong[m]>
and ipfs team.. will download now
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<johnlong[m]>
quick question.. is it possible to use the `Seqno` in pubsub to determine if the message is yours? otherwise what use is the seqno?
<victorbjelkholm>
does `ipfs tar add` not show output like `ipfs add`?
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<victorbjelkholm>
I meant the progress output
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<plexigras>
i thought it would be cool if there was some way that tracks normal non ipfs files
<plexigras>
or it doesnt even have to be files it could just be things like tweets
<jamiew>
plexigras: there's an old ipfs-search project that was indexing things in a way that'd make archiving and search possible, but it was built on Elasticsearch. I've seen discussion of doing similar but with OrbitDB so the index and search was also decentralized
<plexigras>
does orbit have some sort of consensus mechanism
<plexigras>
bc thats what im looking for i can hash a tweet and put it on the ipfs but i dont know how to authenticate that that was a real tweet
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<kivutar>
ohhhh I see
<kivutar>
I don't see any way to do this. The author of the tweet would have to sign it, if not there is no way to prove where the tweet comes from
<kivutar>
or you would need to have many nodes that act as witnesses that the tweet was indeed on twitter and from this account for this to be a proof
<plexigras>
yes but i dont know of a way asses the trustability of these nodes
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<kivutar>
there are some projects like poa network where the nodes are run by notaries that are legally bound to run the node untouched
<kivutar>
not really decentralized
<kivutar>
but it could work in a court
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<csanjeev25>
is it possible to delete or update contents in ipfs network?
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<cjd[m]>
GDPR :)
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<tadzik>
content no, but links to content can be updated
<tadzik>
as for deleting, it's about as feasible as "removing something from the internet" -- you'd have to convince everyone to stop mirroring it
<JCaesar>
The funny part is that things disappear all the time. But removing something…
<tadzik>
the door with "do not open" on it is least likely to get ignored :)
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<RSF>
hi
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<RSF>
the ipfs js api
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<RSF>
ipfs.file.add doc says it an take a Path argument
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<RSF>
a Path (caveat: will only work in Node.js)
<RSF>
is this Path a string?
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<Cheery>
Is it possible in ipfs to give people a handle that you can then update with a private key?
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<Cheery>
am sorry.. did not read it through. It appears IPNS is for that purpose
<Cheery>
ok. another question. Does IPFS record the date of insertion?
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<whyrusleeping>
Cheery: no, the same file added at two different times will have the same hash
<Cheery>
So if you were doing blogging with this thing, you would have to date the post yourself?
<Cheery>
and the user would have to trust that date.
<whyrusleeping>
yeap
<whyrusleeping>
you can't trust the date anyways
<whyrusleeping>
even if ipfs adds it
<whyrusleeping>
you could just fake your ipfs clients date
<whyrusleeping>
the best timestamp you have nowadays is to include the latest bitcoin/ethereum block hash in your post, and stamp the hash of your blogpost in an opreturn/smart contract
<whyrusleeping>
everything else is just trusting some central entity
<Cheery>
hmm.. right.
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<nivek>
A question for IPFS experts here. I am trying to build a media content distribution platform with IPFS. My requirements are very simple:
<nivek>
Anyone who can use either a computer's browser or smart phone's (or embedded app) browser to browse the directory structure of the whole directory
<nivek>
and can click each directory to go further down to the path
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<nivek>
then for any individual media file, like pdf, mp3, mp4, etc., it can be clicked to be played/displayed in place (or streamed)
<nivek>
after reading IPFS papers, I thought this should be a simple thing with IPFS, so where should I get started?
<nivek>
as the web page itself, including embedded media play/display player written in javascript is part of the directory structure
<whyrusleeping>
nivek: should be easy to do with js-ipfs
<whyrusleeping>
I don't know where to point people for js-ipfs stuff exactly though
<Cheery>
the first thing I was thinking "can you make cash with this thing?" but the second thing immediately was "could it be fun?"
<Cheery>
started searching for decentralized web stuff when reading article about youtube censorizing gun channels and messing up with creators once again.
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<Cheery>
ended up finding web archive and neocities blog posts.
<lgierth>
ah check out d.tube if you're coming from youtube
<lgierth>
it's based on ipfs too
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<Cheery>
ipfs solves some things but I guess it doesn't solve them all? One problem with web today is the drinking-pond kind of behavior. Ponding. They find a site where they get they want, then they come back for it, repeat infinum.
<Cheery>
those sites become content platforms and then it all is easy to censor.
<Cheery>
also individuals are easy to pull down from the platform, since they don't essentially have control over it.
<lgierth>
ipfs lets you have website without servers
<lgierth>
e.g. peerpad.net is just a static website that uses js-ipfs to connect to the ipfs network, and this static website is hosted on ipfs itself too
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<Cheery>
you mean that I can wget that site and then run it locally as an app?
<Cheery>
but someone has to run a server, who has the incentive to host the stuff?
<lgierth>
and yeah statically from your filesystem should actually work too
<lgierth>
try it i guess: ipfs get /ipns/peerpad.net && open peerpad.net/index.html
<lgierth>
Cheery: there's no need for servers, only for peers keeping content available, similar to bittorrent seeders
<Cheery>
lgierth: you mean that when peers bookmark stuff, they get a local copy they share?
<Cheery>
or well.. can share
<lgierth>
when you access it through your own ipfs node, it'll start seeding the content to the network (unless configured not to)
<Cheery>
hm.. in that case ISPs have an incentive to keep peers for commonly fetched stuff.
<Kythyria[m]>
If you want to be sure something stays available, you have to arrange for at least one node to stay up, but there's no distinct notion of a server built in to the protocol.
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<Cheery>
hm. yep. and if someone else links to the stuff, he may want to keep a copy around, which then also keeps it around.
<lgierth>
there's a couple of services where you can pay e.g. USD or bitcoin to have someone pin (=seed) data for you
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<lgierth>
and there's gonna be filecoin which is its own token for pinning ipfs data
<Cheery>
where does ipfs draw a line? It isn't good for interactive chat like IRC, or video call streaming?
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<Cheery>
or live videostreams?
<lgierth>
we want it to become good for everything that you can currently do on the web
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<Cheery>
is there a way to search on ipfs?
<lgierth>
:) there's people indexing ipfs content into regular centralized search engines like elasticsearch, but the answer is generally yes, although search index data structures *on* ipfs aren't very far developed yet
<lgierth>
tr.wikipedia-on-ipfs.org has a very simple search over the article titles
<lgierth>
from what i know, nobody has yet tried to do full text search as an ipfs data structure, but it's definitely possible and very very desirable