#ipfs on 2018-04-23 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2018-03-23 06:07 Kubuxu changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.14 is out! Try out all the new features: https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.14 | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0"

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00:25 <ToxicFrog> I would be surprised if they didn't, but I don't actually know

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00:39 <voker57> obo89: they can and will

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00:39 <voker57> if they are added with same parameters like hash and chunker

00:39 <voker57> and if by component you mean same folder/file

00:41 <obo89> i meant child object

00:41 <obo89> so in the merkle tree

00:41 <obo89> theoretically a child object could be the same child object as an object in another tree

00:41 <JohnyTheSmith> huh. systemctl --user restart --now ipfsuser doesnt seem to work as a cronjob. ipfsuser is a service running the ipfs daemon

00:41 <obo89> that's what I was referring to

00:42 <JohnyTheSmith> i first tried it with the crontab in /etc giving the user to it, as that didnt work with crontab -e (though i knew this had likely less chance of success but i still tried it)

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00:56 <AuroraAvenue> anyone up ?

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01:21 <ToxicFrog> kinda sorta

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01:35 <jamiew> JohnyTheSmith: why are you trying to restart ipfs from a crontab? just curious. also happy to share my systemd config, I set it up differently from the docs

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06:13 <dukaanbabu> How pubsub works on websocket-star? Is each and every message being transmitted via Signalling Server (Or) Flooding technique after Swarming

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06:15 <dukaanbabu> @dryjov How pubsub works on websocket-star? Is each and every message being transmitted via Signalling Server (Or) Flooding technique after Swarming

06:15 <dukaanbabu> @dryajov Can you comment on this...Thnx

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06:25 <dukaanbabu> @lidel Did you limit the number of peers to 8 in ipfs companion

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08:10 <lidel> dukaanbabu, no, it is just a work-in-progress. js-ipfs runs with default config (no websocket-star) so it just connects to 8 bootstrap servers and that is it.

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08:25 <dukaanbabu> Oh Ok...I forgot that

08:25 <dukaanbabu> @lidel Thanx

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11:15 <fazo96> I see the next release of js-ipfs is going to have circuit relay

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13:00 <underikar> Do subnodes in a dag object get their own hashes? If yes, how can i find their hash

13:04 <Icefoz> underikar: Yes, and let me look it up.

13:04 <underikar> thank you

13:07 <Icefoz> I think `ipfs object links Qm...` will print out what other objects that object refers to.

13:07 <Icefoz> Yeah.

13:07 <underikar> thank you. i guess its not implements in `ipfs dag` yet?

13:07 <underikar> *implemented

13:07 <Icefoz> I don't know.

13:07 <underikar> thanks

13:08 <Icefoz> No problem.

13:09 <underikar> ah that only works with nodes added as a `link`

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15:47 <lgierth> all hands in 13 minutes \o/

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16:24 <lgierth> darkdrgn2k[m]: meet vyzo who's working on pubsub in ipfs/libp2p. vyzo: darkdrgn2k[m] is working on video live streaming over ipfs for toronto meshnet's conference in july

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16:36 <vyzo> hello

16:36 <lgierth> they already have HLS with updates over IPNS

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16:39 <TUSF> I want to say one could do video calling over pubsub. Setup a private channel to subscribe, and start streaming to it. Not sure if that's the best way to go about it.

16:40 <TUSF> Dunno how bad latency will be like that…

16:43 <vyzo> well, latency won't be that bad

16:43 <vyzo> but bandwidth overhead might be bad with floodsub

16:43 <vyzo> gossipsub should help wiht that

16:43 <vyzo> another approach is to use pubsub to propagate frame metadatata

16:43 <vyzo> and pointers to actual frames

16:43 <vyzo> and then fetch those with a separate protocol

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16:47 <darkdrgn2k[m]> well to be fair i abandoned ipns because it was taking to long to publish

16:47 <darkdrgn2k[m]> 15 second clip 1 minute to publish the new play list. Jjust downt would

16:48 <darkdrgn2k[m]> i will try again with pubsub thougth

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16:51 <vyzo> once you have subscribe your listeners it should be very fast to propagate

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16:55 <TUSF> So, maybe adding encoded video to IPFS, and sending those hashes over pubsub to be picked up as metadata? Not sure how different that would be from just sending the video data all over pubsub.

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16:59 <vyzo> less bandwidth for pubsub propagation

16:59 <vyzo> and you can create a tree structure for the data propagation

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19:09 <MikeFair> hey all, can anyone describe for me how I can get the 256 bit secret to a key in the ipfs keystore?

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19:09 <MikeFair> These are ed25519 keys

19:10 <MikeFair> I'm trying to use the same key in multiple apps

19:11 <Icefoz> I would assume they're in ~/.ipfs/keystore

19:11 <Icefoz> But I don't know much about it.

19:11 <MikeFair> Or more specifically I'd like to use a key from the other application as the IPNS signing key so that application can use it to publish IPNS records

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19:11 <MikeFair> Icefoz, THey are; but they are all normalized to 100 bytes

19:12 <MikeFair> I expected them to be 32 or 64 bytes

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19:13 <MikeFair> In looking at the code I didn't see any obvious record serialization headers or that kind of stuff to indicate to me 'which bytes' are the part I'm after

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19:15 <MikeFair> This seems to be the most relevant starting point I could find: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/keystore/keystore.go#L123

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19:19 <MikeFair> This seems to be what's ultimately called: https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-crypto/blob/master/ed25519.go#L120

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19:19 <MikeFair> But it wants 96 bytes, not 100

19:21 <Icefoz> That's probably both the public and private key then...

19:21 <Icefoz> 32 bits of padding or version number or something perhaps?

19:22 <MikeFair> I think I found it!

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19:23 <Icefoz> ioutil.ReadFile?

19:23 <MikeFair> It's a ProtoBuf of a KeyType + data

19:23 <Icefoz> I'm curious now.

19:23 <Icefoz> Aha

19:23 <MikeFair> https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-crypto/blob/master/key.go

19:23 <Bat`O_> MikeFair: https://github.com/ipfs/specs/issues/58 maybe ?

19:23 <MikeFair> https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-crypto/blob/master/key.go#L269

19:25 <MikeFair> I'm thinking it's a 4 byte int (type); followed by 96 bytes of data

19:26 <Icefoz> Probably.

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19:26 <MikeFair> var PubKeyUnmarshallers = map[pb.KeyType]PubKeyUnmarshaller{

19:26 <MikeFair> pb.KeyType_RSA: UnmarshalRsaPublicKey,

19:26 <MikeFair> }

19:26 <MikeFair> pb.KeyType_Secp256k1: UnmarshalSecp256k1PublicKey,

19:26 <MikeFair> pb.KeyType_Ed25519: UnmarshalEd25519PublicKey,

19:26 <Icefoz> IIRC the private key is 32 bytes and the public one is 64, so.

19:26 <MikeFair> Yes; and that's confirmed in the Ed25519 Unmarshaller

19:26 <Icefoz> Yep: https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-crypto/blob/master/pb/crypto.proto

19:27 <Icefoz> So there we go. Mystery solved! \o/

19:27 <MikeFair> type Ed25519PrivateKey struct {

19:27 <MikeFair> sk *[64]byte

19:27 <MikeFair> }

19:27 <MikeFair> pk *[32]byte

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19:29 <MikeFair> Hmm, I guess I'd have to look up a protobuf array

19:30 <MikeFair> Is protobuf; fieldId/data pairs?

19:30 <Icefoz> Not that I know of?

19:30 <Icefoz> The implementation generated from that file is here: https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-crypto/blob/master/pb/crypto.pb.go

19:31 <MikeFair> 1 byte (FieldId KeyType); 1 byte (KeyTypeInt); 1 byte (FieldId Data); 1 byte (Bytes Array Length) == 4 bytes

19:31 <Icefoz> So use that API.

19:31 <MikeFair> okay

19:31 <MikeFair> var KeyType_value = map[string]int32{

19:31 <MikeFair> Ther eit is

19:31 <MikeFair> 4 byte int; 96 byte data

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19:32 <MikeFair> Yeah, what I should _really_ do is update the ipfs key command to support outputting the pub/priv key data

19:32 <MikeFair> and importing

19:34 <MikeFair> but fileData[5:68] is all I need for right now...

19:35 <MikeFair> Thanks Icefoz! I appreciate it!

19:36 <Icefoz> MikeFair: No problem.

19:36 <ToxicFrog> Icefoz: protos are tag-value pairs on the wire -- one byte for (field id & type), then a variable amount of space for the actual value: https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/encoding

19:36 <ToxicFrog> But in general, yeah, you should just use the generated API.

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20:39 <adam5> hey. i have proof, verifiable proof we are in the matrix http://adioha.s.lamc.la ... #far? that means we can "find and replace" cancer and AIDS and not doing that is "evil" IMHO, http://kansa.s.lamc.la ... and make bullets drop in midair like in the Matrix, http://arrr.s.lamc.la and Minority Report. These things, these movies, part of the message. http://fromthemachine.org/SEVENTY.html -- I need help gaming reddit, and whatever else you guys can think of, email

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20:57 <lidel> adam5, are you AI?

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20:57 <adam5> lidel: samurai

20:57 <adam5> ru "?

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21:11 <lidel> I am too tired, cheers ;)

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21:16 <Kubuxu> adam5: please don't post unrelated ads/spam on this channel. This is the first and the final warning.

21:19 <ericxtang> Is this the right place to ask gx questions?

21:20 <Kubuxu> ericxtang: sure

21:21 <ericxtang> What's the command to use for importing everything in the packages.json file?

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21:23 <Kubuxu> you mean downloading?

21:23 <Kubuxu> gx install

21:23 <ericxtang> I want to update my dependencies to libp2p (to the same versions in the current go-ipfs). So I thought I could copy the packages.json file from go-ipfs into my project directory, and use a magic command to update all the dependencies...

21:24 <Kubuxu> gx-go uw; 'change package.json'; gx install; gx-go rw

21:27 <ericxtang> Gracias!

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21:29 <ericxtang> hmm... is there a command to replace import "gx/ipfs/hash" back to "github.com/packagename"? Looks like the hashes didn't update according to package.json.

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21:37 <ericxtang> oh i figured it out - replaced 'package.json' before I ran `go-go uw`

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21:37 <henke_> hey

21:38 <henke_> anyone from libp2p can help me?

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21:40 <henke_> ok, i'm just gonna drop my problem here, and hope anyone can answer me :P

21:40 <henke_> I'm trying to create a local network for testing

21:40 <henke_> my main program is running fine, I'm creating libp2p-hosts, connecting them to the ipfs-bootstrappers, and then providing and listening for providers in a given topic using libp2p-kad-dht

21:41 <henke_> the problem is, I'm trying to remove the ipfs-bootstrappers from my program, so the tests can be run anywhere

21:41 <henke_> I've managed to connect two peers locally, not depending from a external bootstrapper(ipfs)

21:41 <henke_> but when I'm providing => if err := n.dht.Provide(timedctx, cid, true); err != nil {

21:41 <henke_> it gives me the error: failed to find any peer in table

21:41 <henke_> I'm sure I'm doing something silly, like not populating the table

21:41 <henke_> but I don't know how I should populate, as the main program runs fine, with the external(ipfs) bootstrapper

21:41 <henke_> I don't know if I made myself clear

21:41 <henke_> thank you for reading everything :)

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23:49 <underikar> im trying to clarify the difference between an ipfs object and an ipld dag node (?)

23:50 <TUSF> It's a square vs rectangle sort of thing.

23:50 <TUSF> All IPFS objects are IPLD dag nodes, but not vice versa.

23:51 <TUSF> Wait

23:51 <underikar> and ipfs objects can only be traversed via links?

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23:52 <TUSF> Actually, if you're talking about the "ipfs object" command, I believe it's supposed to eventually be deprecated by the "ipfs dag" command.

23:52 <underikar> right

23:52 <underikar> but they dont currently do the same thing

23:52 <underikar> `ipfs dag` manipulates any ipld node/object

23:53 <underikar> whereas `ipfs object` only accepts valid ipfs objects

23:53 <TUSF> I believe it's because `ipfs object` tries to structure things like normal IPFS files and folders.

23:53 <underikar> can i describe what im trying to do and youll tell me if it makes sense?

23:54 <TUSF> Sure

23:54 <underikar> i want to store a book (lets say i have it in json format)

23:54 <underikar> with chapters paragraphs etc

23:55 <underikar> so with `ipfs dag` i can traverse the json in the document

23:55 <TUSF> I see,

23:55 <underikar> whereas with `ipfs object` i would need to create a separate file for each paragraph, and attach them using links

23:55 <underikar> right?

23:56 <underikar> i mean, i guess this stuff can be automated, but is there any reason id specifically want to use non-ipfs objects?

23:57 <TUSF> Well, I believe you can do something like {"Links":[{"/":"hash1"}, {"/":"hash1"}],"Data":"Some data here."}

23:57 <TUSF> {"/":"hash"} is basically considered a link in IPFS

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23:58 <underikar> one minute

23:58 <TUSF> Err, I may have gotten that improperly... hold up, haven't played with those tools in a while

23:58 <underikar> when i cat the root hash, what will it return? the data? the links?

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23:59 <underikar> and the data can only be a blob of data?

23:59 <underikar> specifically i would ideally like to be able to refer to an individual paragraph or chapter by hash

23:59 <TUSF> Well, `ipfs cat` only works on valid files, actually

23:59 <underikar> oh

23:59 <TUSF> However…

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