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<epergny>
r0kk3rz: even if it's not cheaper but close or at least not "10x" more expensive, there's something about not being tied to GOOG / AMZN / MSFT : )
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<r0kk3rz>
sure
<r0kk3rz>
personally i see it as a way to transmit ephemeral data between a group without stashing it on AWS first, which is the usual pattern
<epergny>
r0kk3rz: I also already played a bit with private repo to share family pictures and vids (creating a private "bootstrap" key and sharing it with nerdy/geeky family members)
<epergny>
r0kk3rz: well that's the plan. I only ran tests locally.
<epergny>
all very exciting
<r0kk3rz>
syncthing is probably more suited to that purpose
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<epergny>
r0kk3rz: oh sure and btrfs can do deduplication etc. but the goal is more to learn IPFS than anything else really
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<nateseverson[m]>
hey
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<lordcirth_>
postables[m], /ipns/docs.ipfs.io/reference/api/cli/ works, though
<postables[m]>
lordcirth_: hmm strange that works for me. I'm getting this particular error when clicking the `Every command` hyperlink on https://docs.ipfs.io/reference/api/http/
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<lordcirth_>
postables[m], me too
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<garden-gnome[m]>
How is IPFS different from torrenting, apart from automatically rendering content in a browser rather than only downloading it?
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<lordcirth_>
garden-gnome[m], well, for one thing IPFS forms a single content-addressed directed acyclic graph. 2 torrents of different directories that happen to contain the same file aren't deduplicated; IPFS directories are.
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<lordcirth_>
every torrent has it's own metadata namespace, it's own peer list to bootstrap, etc
<garden-gnome[m]>
Ah, that makes sense
<garden-gnome[m]>
Now I'm looking in the ipfs subreddit top posts
<garden-gnome[m]>
I come across an interesting post where Catalonia tried to use IPFS to distribute voting information
<garden-gnome[m]>
But now when I try to access the ipfs it doesn't resolve. Does that mean that nobody saved it?
<garden-gnome[m]>
*the ipfs link
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<r0kk3rz>
the gateways translate into http, people have done the same with bittorrent too
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<lordcirth_>
garden-gnome[m], /ipfs/ links are immutable and can be pinned by anyone to keep them alive. /ipns/ links are DNS-like records with TTL's, and have to be resigned by a specific key or they expire.
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<garden-gnome[m]>
Ty @lordcirth_!
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<Sean[m]>
does leaving ipfs sit idle help the network?
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<lordcirth_>
Sean[m], if you have anything pinned / in cache, yes
<lordcirth_>
* And if you are accessible, ie not behind a NAT
<Sean[m]>
lordcirth_: hmm I don't. I could port forward myself and pin things that people access a lot I guess?
<Sean[m]>
I don't know what that would be, maybe the wikipedia archive
<lordcirth_>
Sean[m], definitely port forward. I wouldn't try *too* hard to pin popular things. Just pin what you want to be accessible.
<codebam>
oh, okay sure
<codebam>
oh yeah I'm Sean[m]
<codebam>
but um... are there any indexes where I can find things to pin?
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<Mikaela>
Hi, how does deduplication work in case of e.g. 10 Ubuntu isos (releases and deriatives)? As there is a lot in common and a few changes there, how much of it gets deduplicated in IPFS repository or would it duplicate the space usage of them all? I can only find an unanswered FAQ at https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/what-is-better-large-containers-or-large-sets-of-files/263/3?u=mikaela
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<Voker57>
Mikaela: with isos, any deduplication is not likely since same bytes won't be at same positions.
<Voker57>
repositories, though, can be stored very efficiently, even versioned
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<Mikaela>
Thanks :) Could you also reply to that thread?
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<shush>
What is it called when you take a regular ol file and put it in the ipfs repo?
<shush>
adding?
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<shush>
What is the result file called?
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<shush>
an object?
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<Voker57>
a DAG
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<Voker57>
depends on context i guess
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<shush>
I built a static application with view files. I do I explore or view it's dag data?
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<Voker57>
I didn't undestand this sequence. Do you ask about wording you need to present to your user? Does your application allow user to view files?
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<Voker57>
* sentenct
<Voker57>
* sentence :)
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<mattober[m]>
stebalien: where you able to receive my PM today, matrix is being super strange for me
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<stebalien>
mattober: finall got it to work.
<stebalien>
(finally)
<mattober[m]>
awesome, sent a new message
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