stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.19 and js-ipfs 0.34 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of
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<epergny> r0kk3rz: even if it's not cheaper but close or at least not "10x" more expensive, there's something about not being tied to GOOG / AMZN / MSFT : )
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<r0kk3rz> sure
<r0kk3rz> personally i see it as a way to transmit ephemeral data between a group without stashing it on AWS first, which is the usual pattern
<epergny> r0kk3rz: I also already played a bit with private repo to share family pictures and vids (creating a private "bootstrap" key and sharing it with nerdy/geeky family members)
<epergny> r0kk3rz: well that's the plan. I only ran tests locally.
<epergny> all very exciting
<r0kk3rz> syncthing is probably more suited to that purpose
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<epergny> r0kk3rz: oh sure and btrfs can do deduplication etc. but the goal is more to learn IPFS than anything else really
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<nateseverson[m]> hey
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<lordcirth_> postables[m], /ipns/docs.ipfs.io/reference/api/cli/ works, though
<postables[m]> lordcirth_: hmm strange that works for me. I'm getting this particular error when clicking the `Every command` hyperlink on https://docs.ipfs.io/reference/api/http/
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<lordcirth_> postables[m], me too
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<garden-gnome[m]> How is IPFS different from torrenting, apart from automatically rendering content in a browser rather than only downloading it?
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<lordcirth_> garden-gnome[m], well, for one thing IPFS forms a single content-addressed directed acyclic graph. 2 torrents of different directories that happen to contain the same file aren't deduplicated; IPFS directories are.
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<lordcirth_> every torrent has it's own metadata namespace, it's own peer list to bootstrap, etc
<garden-gnome[m]> Ah, that makes sense
<garden-gnome[m]> Now I'm looking in the ipfs subreddit top posts
<garden-gnome[m]> I come across an interesting post where Catalonia tried to use IPFS to distribute voting information
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<garden-gnome[m]> But now when I try to access the ipfs it doesn't resolve. Does that mean that nobody saved it?
<garden-gnome[m]> *the ipfs link
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<r0kk3rz> the gateways translate into http, people have done the same with bittorrent too
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<lordcirth_> garden-gnome[m], /ipfs/ links are immutable and can be pinned by anyone to keep them alive. /ipns/ links are DNS-like records with TTL's, and have to be resigned by a specific key or they expire.
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<garden-gnome[m]> Ty @lordcirth_!
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<Sean[m]> does leaving ipfs sit idle help the network?
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<lordcirth_> Sean[m], if you have anything pinned / in cache, yes
<lordcirth_> * And if you are accessible, ie not behind a NAT
<Sean[m]> lordcirth_: hmm I don't. I could port forward myself and pin things that people access a lot I guess?
<Sean[m]> I don't know what that would be, maybe the wikipedia archive
<lordcirth_> Sean[m], definitely port forward. I wouldn't try *too* hard to pin popular things. Just pin what you want to be accessible.
<codebam> oh, okay sure
<codebam> oh yeah I'm Sean[m]
<codebam> but um... are there any indexes where I can find things to pin?
<lordcirth_> well, there's a search engine: https://ipfs-search.com/
<codebam> oh that's cool!
<codebam> thanks lordcirth_ :)
<lordcirth_> An unfortunate downside of DAGs is that it's not easy to go from an image CID to the CID of the website it was uploaded for...
<codebam> oh, right I see
<codebam> like if a webpage had a bunch of content you might not be able to find the original page
<codebam> and only the content
<lordcirth_> Now, if you indexed everything, once you matched a CID you could look in your index to find the parent. But there's no direct link.
<lordcirth_> Yes exactly.
<garden-gnome[m]> Ooh, ty for the link to the search engine!
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<shush> How do I serve files?
<shush> I'm able to access my files through locolhost:8080 but not through a public gateway
<garden-gnome[m]> I think you might need to do port forwarding
<shush> garden-gnome[m]: what port?
<shush> which *
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<shush> garden-gnome[m]: it worked
<shush> thanks
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<cyberwolf[m][m]> https://peergos.org/blog
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<BenLubar> Magik6k: ran GC 60 times with that commit: 81G 65G 63G 62G 60G 58G 58G 57G 57G 57G 57G 56G 56G 50G 47G 44G 44G 44G 41G 34G 34G 34G 34G 33G 33G 32G 32G 32G 32G 32G 31G 31G 30G 30G 30G 30G 30G 30G 30G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G 29G
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<mrey[m]> are the go-ipfs binaries (https://dist.ipfs.io/#go-ipfs) on ipfs?
<D_> There's a /ipns/dist.ipfs.io/
<D_> or if you want a non-web listing, /ipns/dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/
<mrey[m]> thanks
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<Mikaela> Hi, how does deduplication work in case of e.g. 10 Ubuntu isos (releases and deriatives)? As there is a lot in common and a few changes there, how much of it gets deduplicated in IPFS repository or would it duplicate the space usage of them all? I can only find an unanswered FAQ at https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/what-is-better-large-containers-or-large-sets-of-files/263/3?u=mikaela
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<Voker57> Mikaela: with isos, any deduplication is not likely since same bytes won't be at same positions.
<Voker57> repositories, though, can be stored very efficiently, even versioned
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<Mikaela> Thanks :) Could you also reply to that thread?
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<shush> What is it called when you take a regular ol file and put it in the ipfs repo?
<shush> adding?
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<shush> What is the result file called?
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<shush> an object?
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<Voker57> a DAG
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<Voker57> depends on context i guess
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<shush> I built a static application with view files. I do I explore or view it's dag data?
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<Voker57> I didn't undestand this sequence. Do you ask about wording you need to present to your user? Does your application allow user to view files?
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<Voker57> * sentenct
<Voker57> * sentence :)
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<mattober[m]> stebalien: where you able to receive my PM today, matrix is being super strange for me
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<stebalien> mattober: finall got it to work.
<stebalien> (finally)
<mattober[m]> awesome, sent a new message
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