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<rwen[m]>
About the topic: does the fact that I'm on Riot mean I'm "registered"?
<rwen[m]>
If I accidentally delete my shared storage, does it get regenerated without a fuss or does this get somehow penalized, to the point that I could lose access to my own data on other people's shared storage?
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<odisseus[m]>
If you delete your local IPFS repo, what's lost is the information that wasn't stored anywhere else. If any block of data is stored by other nodes in the global IPFS network, you can retrieve that block again without any penalties. But keep in mind that those data may eventually disappear from the remote nodes as well!
<odisseus[m]>
As far as I know, IPFS doesn't have any "shared storage". Beside the necessary metadata that enable searching across the network, every node's owner has complete control over the data it stores. I have heard about some ways to pay other people for keeping your data (I think it's called Filecoin), but it's not part of the IPFS itself. There are also companies that provide paid hosting for your data.
<rwen[m]>
odisseus: I'm assuming that was a "rwen" message :). An opposite concern of mine is: how do I get an exhaustive log of all moments when some of my data happened to not be mirrored anywhere else because of coincidental deletion of all of the few hosts that had it?
<odisseus[m]>
If the only provider is you, then it's not safe to delete
<rwen[m]>
odisseus: Oh, I hadn't got to read that. So are you actually saying IPFS is just a glorified Samba/NetBIOS?
<rwen[m]>
odisseus: I thought its main point was redundant shared storage for censorship-resistant backups.
<odisseus[m]>
It is shared in the sense that you can share your data with all other users, and redundant as long as anybody else is willing to back up your data.
<rwen[m]>
odisseus: The class of software I'm talking about has absolutely nothing to do with begging.
<rwen[m]>
I'm talking about something like Freenet.
<odisseus[m]>
IPFS is quite different from Freenet
<rwen[m]>
I just want to know I share, say, 10GiB and I have a redundant encrypted 1GiB GUARANTEED with no begging and no further social engineering.
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<rwen[m]>
* I just want to know I share, say, 10GiB and I have a encrypted redundant 1GiB GUARANTEED randomly all over the planet (see? I don't even have inter-planetary ambitions) with no begging and no further social engineering.
<rwen[m]>
I updated the message in a way that makes it worth rereading.
<rwen[m]>
* I just want to know I share, say, 10GiB and I have an encrypted redundant 1GiB GUARANTEED randomly all over the planet (see? I don't even have inter-planetary ambitions) with no begging and no further social engineering.