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<kravietz[m]>
<Mikaela "Hi, does anyone know if https://"> What would be the use cases when this could be in scope? I guess this regulation only applies to personal data and I'm not sure if there's any use case where I would want to see my personal data happily spreading over IPFS or any other global decentralized network 😀
<Mikaela>
fetching files from IPFS resulting the gateway knowing at least user-agent and IP address that GDPR considers personal data
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<Mikaela>
e.g. https://mikaela.info/ fetches the avatar and favicon through IPFS and I am curious on the technicality, while I find it highly unlikely a lawyer or similar would come after me for fetching them through dweb.link which IPFS Gateway checker says to be in the USA. actually if they came after me for that, I think a bigger issue would be me using
<Mikaela>
GitHub Pages which is a US company
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<kravietz[m]>
I'd suspect if it's publicly posted (like the favicon) it doesn't constitute PII that anyone needs to obtain consent for processing but it's a very good point indeed - I have a friend who does just for living (DPA) that so I'll ask!
<Mikaela>
Thanks :)
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<Mikaela>
My "issue" isn't the favicon instead, but whether it's OK to use a US gateway for fetching it as the gateway will get that PII of the client due to how the internet works
<Mikaela>
optimal case would probably be that I was running my own IPFS gateway
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<Mikaela>
no, the optimal case would be the client's browser doing IPFS natively and not have to consult the gateway that wouldn't have to exist
<kravietz[m]>
Well in case of IPFS the jurisdiction is generally very fuzzy: you inject a file into IPFS through your local gateway and then it may pop up anywhere, having passed nodes in any jurisdiction. So a gateway (or node) in the US should not be a data controller in the legal term just as a backbone router is not data controller for any packets it routes.
<Mikaela>
👍
<Mikaela[meow]>
oh, in unrelated matter, are there plans to upgrade this room from version 1 to 6 sometime?
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<kravietz[m]>
<Mikaela "no, the optimal case would be th"> So my friend says any infrastructure - like routers, proxies etc, which IPFS nodes and gateway fall under - is excluded from the GDPR consent and most likely from ePrivacy directive which also applies here. If you, as node operator have basis to route/cache someone's data - and you have it, since they injected it into IPFS - you don't need their consent for that explicitly.
<kravietz[m]>
Different story if you suddenly started like capturing people's files from IPFS and build your own database of their photos etc as this is completely different use case.
<Mikaela>
Nice, thanks 💜
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