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<apotheon> So far, using ipfs seems a bit "unintuitive", and slow.
<swedneck> how so? i'd be glad to help
<apotheon> I'm not sure how to describe the situation. I was trying to use the command line tools to publish some things, and failed to find a way to turn the hashes it gave me into something I can use in another context at the time. I probably could now that I tried the browser dashboard thingie (forgot what it's called, sorry), except I didn't keep track of them, and now don't know how to find them
<apotheon> again.
<apotheon> In the browser UI that comes with go-ipfs (all I installed is go-ipfs), I can manage some stuff, but it doesn't seem to have any connection to what the CLI tools manage so far.
<apotheon> I didn't really take notes on what I was doing, so I'm afraid the best I can do here is describe my vague memory and maybe hunt through some shell history.
<apotheon> I'm happy I figured out a way to publish some files through the browser so I can share them with others, but I'd really like to be able to do this stuff from the command line, so I guess I'll have to go back to smacking my head against that until something makes a dent.
<swedneck> anything you can do in the webui can be done via CLI
<apotheon> I assumed as much, but haven't figured out how to do some things (like get a general listing of what I have, for instance) from the command line.
<swedneck> what precisely do you want to do? that'll make it easier to tell you what commands you need
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<apotheon> Presumably, "ipfs add -r directoryname" should have . . . done something like publish the directory and its contents, I guess.
<apotheon> I haven't found any way to *find* what I added, either from the command line or the browser, except maybe by copying the hash, then looking at something I can find in the browser and copying that URI, then editing it to use the hash I copied.
<apotheon> . . . but I haven't tried that yet, because that doesn't seem like it's probably the right way to do it.
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<apotheon> Is there some kind of command to just see a listing of every file I've added to IPFS?
<apotheon> hmm
<apotheon> refs
<swedneck> `ipfs pin ls`
<apotheon> oh
<apotheon> Yeah, refs seems to be something else.
<apotheon> I'll look at pin.
<swedneck> will show everything you added, presuming you didn't disable pinning when adding it
<swedneck> you may want to look at the mfs as well, `ipfs files`
<swedneck> that's what's shown in the webui, and helps a lot with keeping track of things
<apotheon> Okay, so . . . pin ls doesn't seem to give me information that actually tells me what I'm looking at.
<apotheon> What's "mfs"?
<apotheon> Ooh, ipfs files seems useful.
<apotheon> Thanks for that.
<apotheon> swedneck: Thanks. I'll dig around some more on my own before bed. Take care.
<swedneck> ah right, you probably want `ipfs pin ls -t recursive`
<swedneck> otherwise it prints literally every single object that has been pinned, including parts of files
<apotheon> cool
<swedneck> you can use the --help flag with all subcommands to get a description of it btw
<apotheon> I'm still not sure how to translate those hashes into knowledge of what they represent, but I guess I'll probably find it while playing with this.
<swedneck> `ipfs ls` shows what's contained in a hash, presuming it's a directory
<swedneck> if you want to see the contents of files, you use `ipfs cat`
<swedneck> `ipfs cat QmeomffUNfmQy76CQGy9NdmqEnnHU9soCexBnGU3ezPHVH` should output `test`
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<swedneck> also if you want files to have names, remember to always wrap them in a directory. this can be done automatically when adding them with `ipfs add -w`
<apotheon> There's no way to just list the hashes with their contents in the first place, I guess. If I want to know what's in there, I have to first list all the hashes via pin ls, then run ls individually on each hash. Right?
<swedneck> yeah, but that's why you'd use the mfs
<apotheon> That's feels pretty clunky. Maybe I'll wrap a script around it.
<swedneck> the mfs makes handling ipfs objects a lot nicer
<apotheon> I don't know what "mfs" means in this context.
<swedneck> mfs is the technical name for what `ipfs files` uses
<swedneck> it's just a virtual filesystem, sort of
<apotheon> How do I "use the mfs"?
<apotheon> I haven't seen this term anywhere so far.
<swedneck> via `ipfs files` or the "files" tab in the webui
<apotheon> I see it cryptically mentioned in output of "ipfs files --help".
<apotheon> Okay, thanks.
<apotheon> Is that an initialism, like MFS, that stands for something? I'd guess "fs" is "filesystem", but could be mistaken.
<apotheon> . . . "meta-filesystem"?
<apotheon> ah
<apotheon> cool, thanks
<swedneck> urp, that's the local url
<swedneck> there
<swedneck> brb
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<apotheon> It's getting late. I'll leave the discussion there for now.
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<swedneck> Alright, hope you get stuff working :D
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<apotheon> thanks
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<auhau[m]> Hey guys,
<auhau[m]> did you get at some point `Empty reply from server` from your localhost gateway? 😳 I can run it at all... I have 0.6.0, not sure if maybe some problem with configuration? 🤔
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<auhau[m]> * Hey guys,
<auhau[m]> did you get at some point `Empty reply from server` from your localhost gateway? 😳 I can't run it at all... I have 0.6.0, not sure if maybe some problem with configuration? 🤔
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<swedneck> i'd suggest trying with a fresh profile
<swedneck> set $IPFS_PATH to some directory, and run `ipfs init`
<swedneck> then try running stuff with that $IPFS_PATH variable active
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<ipfsbot> @fuckGoogle posted in A decentralized analogue of Twitter that uses CIDs as pointers and store content using IPFS - https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/a-decentralized-analogue-of-twitter-that-uses-cids-as-pointers-and-store-content-using-ipfs/8788/1
<georgetsag[m]> hello room
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