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<bfree>
http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/niall/linux_3.10~rc4-1~exp1.sunxi.1/ is debian experimentals incoming 3.10 + sun4i emac from net-next, not even tested it myself yet (too late now for tonight after it's 24h native build on a cubie) ... but seeing as though neither 3.9 (unstable) or 3.10 (experimental) with armmp have been built yet in Debian I thought I'd throw it out
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<oliv3r>
mornin'
<hramrach_>
mornin
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<slapin_nb>
hi, all!
<slapin_nb>
~seen rz2k
<slapin_nb>
seems not to be around...
<hno>
hi slapin_nb
<slapin_nb>
hno: h!
<slapin_nb>
hno: hi!
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<oliv3r>
ok i just created a file --help somehow
<oliv3r>
and I can't remove it :S
<hramrach_>
rm -- --help :p
<oliv3r>
ohh
<oliv3r>
nice trick
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<oliv3r>
i think rm ./--help should have worked too
<oliv3r>
winrime: ping
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<rellla>
ssvb: ping
<ssvb>
rellla: pong, but right now I'm kinda busy and will be really back in ~2 hours
<oliv3r>
so ~pong
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<hramrach_>
huh? sent some patches to linux-sunxi and they neither bounced back nor appear on google
<rellla>
ssvb: np, me too. i only wanted to ask, if you or so else tried the new armv5-lib and headers with libhybris and vlc/xbmc?
<nove>
rellla, i got partial success using libcedarx, but not good because is another abstraction in top of vecore
<rellla>
which libcedarx do you mean?
<nove>
it hides all the good things
<nove>
is the vlc cedar library
<oliv3r>
i really could use someone to create a (replayable) trace of the mjpeg in cedarx-traces
<nove>
oliv3r, i never tried to play mjpeg, don't if this vlc build can
<nove>
oliv3r, i will check
<ssvb_>
nove: would it be a good idea to just disable frame dropping in vlc?
<nove>
oliv3r, it plays, next get the trace
<nove>
ssvb_, must try
<ssvb_>
rellla: I have not looked at the new cedar blobs, I don't see much point in that right now (they must provide something that the current blobs can't do)
<ssvb_>
rellla: I guess a changelog or some sort of whatsnew info from them would be an unexpected luxury? :)
<nove>
oliv3r, it failed to replay, will look forward
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<nove>
oliv3r, i fell in my trap and forgot a required command line option
<nove>
oliv3r, it replays ok
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<oliv3r>
turl: ping
<oliv3r>
nove: ok that's really cool; did you trace it? (and replayed the trace?)
<oliv3r>
can you pastebin the trace? i'll add it to the repo
<nove>
oliv3r, yes it replays
<oliv3r>
nove: very cool; can you put it somewhere so I can check it out?
<nove>
do a suggestion to were? , is 266k
<nove>
oliv3r
<oliv3r>
erm
<oliv3r>
guess it won't fit into paste.debian.org
<oliv3r>
anywhere works really where I can get it; i'll commit it to cedarx-traces
<nove>
oliv3r, does xdcc work here?
<nove>
oliv3r, can be by email?
<nove>
oliv3r, is more easy than to find some decent place to put it
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<oliv3r>
oliver@linux-sunxi.org
<mul>
oliv3r, i still have to implement the new trace format in the replay tool
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<oliv3r>
mul: okay; we can always update the trace; it's upploaded for now
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<mul>
mul> oliv3r, i still have to implement the new trace format in the replay tool
<mul>
<nove> oliv3r, but this trace can't be replayed replay tool, because of wrong format
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<oliv3r>
Turl: is it possible to use a custom toolchaint o build android?
<Turl>
oliv3r: to build what of android?
<oliv3r>
i'm trying to build cyanogenmod
<oliv3r>
(for my new phone first; then for AW)
<oliv3r>
but it fails to find libz.so (which I have locally AND is included in 'their' toolchain
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<Turl>
oliv3r: can you paste the full error?
<oliv3r>
/silo/build/galaxy_s2/android/system/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-linux/4.6.x-google/../../../../i686-linux/bin/as: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<oliv3r>
so i dunno if i wanna torture myself more :p
<mripard_>
you have no wide char support, no full pthread API, even syslog() isn't there
<mripard_>
Turl: see? it's broken :)
<oliv3r>
well your only installing it to have a compiler (with support)
<oliv3r>
i mean, with crossdev; you have properly (sorta) isntalled multiple compilers
<mripard_>
ok
<oliv3r>
how do you normally handle that? 1 compiler per directory somewhere; resulting in 15 compilers on your system :)
<oliv3r>
installing bionic as your main libc; Ouch
<n01_>
mripard_: ping (again)? :) have you 2 min to take a look to the new probe function of the wdt driver? I have address some of the Roeck's concerns but I'd like to have a feedback before submitting again to LAKML
<Turl>
mripard_: I was hit by lack of full pthread
<mripard_>
Turl: it doesn't have a lot of things :)
<oliv3r>
can you run dalvic/android in eglibc? :)
<n01_>
yeah, BTW rtc driver is in progress and it is a lot of fun :)
<Turl>
oliv3r: probably
<Turl>
oliv3r: btw, if you want the least pain, may I suggest you use a ubuntu chroot/container?
<mripard_>
oliv3r: I saw something like this, I think it was called aliendalvik
<Turl>
:)
<mripard_>
n01_: cool :)
<oliv3r>
Turl: probably; but i was hoping to 'integrate' it into the bsp at somep oint
<n01_>
cool for the rtc driver or for the new probe() of the wdt driver? :)
<mripard_>
n01_: your probe seems fine
<mripard_>
the rtc driver :)
<n01_>
:D great ... I'll submit it tomorrow
<n01_>
$work is killing me these days :(
<Turl>
oliv3r: for those of us running sane(ish) systems it'd work :p (ubuntu, arch, debian)
<oliv3r>
:p
<oliv3r>
it not finding libz sounds like an env issue if anything
<Turl>
n01_: woo, sunxi rtc? :)
<n01_>
Turl: yep, sun4i atm
<Turl>
mripard_: where's my mmc driver? ;)
<Turl>
we're going to be pretty feature complete for 3.11
<Turl>
did my v6 routing die again? :p
<hno>
Which devices is planned to work in 3.11?
<oliv3r>
cubieboard!
<bfree>
emac is in net-next so should land in 3.11 (applies to 3.10 also, now I've managed to get a usb2uart I might even manage to test debian's 3.10+emac tonight)
<Turl>
hno: wemac landed already
<Turl>
i2c is working too, still hasn't landed though
<Turl>
s/wemac/emac/
<Turl>
bfree: well, those things are developed on top of 3.10-rcX :)
<oliv3r>
i2c MAY get merged to a diff driver though :p
<bfree>
Turl: yep, I wasn't expecting problems ;)
<Turl>
hno: I'm also hoping watchdog, sid and maybe rtc land for 3.11
<oliv3r>
i haven't received any other comments
<oliv3r>
so gonna submit new driver again soon
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<mripard_>
Turl: I don't know, in your tree ? :)
<Turl>
mripard_: btw, hansg wrote a new axp driver that looked way cleaner than the aw mess, potentially mainlineable with little effort
<Turl>
mripard_: my tree only has the clocks to drive mmc :p
<mripard_>
Turl: and my tree has a mmc driver that doesn't even compile
<mripard_>
:)
<Turl>
mripard_: :D better than no driver at all, right? :)
<mripard_>
and yeah, I just looked at the AXP driver
<mripard_>
Turl: if you assume that the driver works, I guess so :)
<mripard_>
I hadn't much time to look into it unfortunately
<mripard_>
between merging my pending patches, work, and getting how to make a bootable SD Card for the A31 to test my patches (which I haven't been able to do yet...), ENOTENOUGHTIME :)
<mripard_>
Turl: noticed how I didn't edit the wiki to put my name in front of the MMC WiP thing ? :)
<Turl>
mripard_: drachensun has been working on A31 w/ cards iirc
<Turl>
the fact that you need to hold a pin to boot from the card is silly though :(
<oliv3r>
if you put a 'jumper' on the pin, it always boots from card
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<Turl>
oliv3r: jumpering tablets and the like is not nice :P
<oliv3r>
blame AW :(
<mripard_>
Turl: and last time I tried, I completely broke the boot process somehow, and I can't even boot the stock android that was on the NAND...
<oliv3r>
mripard_: can you get into u-boot (any version)?
<oliv3r>
md 0x01c00024 1
<mripard_>
yep
<oliv3r>
what does that say?
<mripard_>
actually, I blowed the U-boot environment to have a shell into it during the boot
<oliv3r>
bit 6:8 should be the boot-select bits
<mripard_>
and when I put the exact same environment, the kernel fails miserably with a weird panic message.
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<mripard_>
I'm not at home, so I can't test right now, but I will when I go back
<mripard_>
and then, I can't manage to make it load uboot, and later the krenel obviously
<mripard_>
but that must probably be some stupid mistake on my side
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<oliv3r>
Turl: how likly is it that the compiler is set from the XML file? and not detected?
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<Turl>
not a good day to use the internet hm
<oliv3r>
:(
<Turl>
luke's posting to all the lists lately :)
<mripard_>
Turl: you have no idea, I have a poor hotel internet connection, while I learned here that my connection at home had been upgraded to 300Mbps/50Mbps :S
<Turl>
mripard_: travelling atm?
<Turl>
mripard_: it's not my connection that's bad though, it's my VPS's :(
<mripard_>
Turl: yep
<Turl>
which is even sadder :P
<Turl>
mripard_: I have 6/.75Mbit here :(
<mripard_>
well, not really travelling, I'm still in france
<mripard_>
but yeah, I'm giving a training this week
* Turl
wonders why does luke praise .fex so much
<Turl>
oliv3r: did you get irssinotifier set up yet? :)
<oliv3r>
"its simple"
<oliv3r>
i've installed it :p
<oliv3r>
are you guys sure that cyanogenmod detects the local arch? I only see x86 references everywhere
<oliv3r>
then again;that all could be target toolchains
<Turl>
oliv3r: yeah, notice the TARGET_ARCH over it :)
<mripard_>
Turl: what always surprises me is how he much he has no idea what is possible with the device tree
<mripard_>
DT definitely has some drawbacks, but definitely not the one he keeps pointing to.
<oliv3r>
there was a cross post a while ago from luke about devicetree, with a lot of things that where 'wrong' with it, but i think nearly everything got debunked
<Turl>
yeah
<Turl>
too bad he doesn't irc much
<Turl>
lkcl: ping ping ping? :)
<oliv3r>
well he is a busy man
<oliv3r>
eoma68; gpl-violations etc
<mripard_>
(and I must say that he keeps saying that multiplatform kernel can't possibly work, and every release, more and more platforms continues to prove him wrong.)
<oliv3r>
well the entire DT still grows
<oliv3r>
it's not really 'done' yet; is it
<oliv3r>
i dno't think 'fex' could work for the entire kernel; it'll get horribyl messy
<mripard_>
oliv3r: you can already boot the same kernel image on a beagleboard, on a raspberry pi, on a cubieboard or an a Marvell based NAS.
<mripard_>
the infrastructure is in place for quite some time already
<mripard_>
what needs to be done is for platforms to move to this infrastructure
<oliv3r>
yeah, but i meant; it's so 'young' i'm sure there will be things we can't handle yet at some point
<mripard_>
it's not that young
<mripard_>
it's been used since like forever on PPC
<mripard_>
(and actually, Arnd Bergmann, which is one of the two maintainers of arm-soc, was working on PPC at IBM before joining the Linaro's rank)
<oliv3r>
well I don't dislike it :)
<mripard_>
like I said, there's still some serious drawbacks
<mripard_>
like how to probe spidev using it
<mripard_>
I had a pretty long mail today about it
<lkcl>
mripard_: if you're looking at just the published linux kernels that are available and upstream in order to make that assessment and conclusion, you're way *way* off.
<lkcl>
Turl: apologies. yeah. and a full-time job. and the kde tablet. and the 15in laptop. and playing with my daughter. and dealing with serious health issues which if not addressed could end up being life-threatening. and dealing with the stupid, stupid inland revenue. and... err fuckit i'm too busy to list them all, and it's late.
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<Turl>
lkcl: let's arrange one day and discuss dt on irc here with mripard_; why you think it doesn't work, and why we think it does
<Turl>
lkcl: in any case, health issues come first, get treated asap