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<bfree> http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/niall/linux_3.10~rc4-1~exp1.sunxi.1/ is debian experimentals incoming 3.10 + sun4i emac from net-next, not even tested it myself yet (too late now for tonight after it's 24h native build on a cubie) ... but seeing as though neither 3.9 (unstable) or 3.10 (experimental) with armmp have been built yet in Debian I thought I'd throw it out
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<oliv3r> mornin'
<hramrach_> mornin
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<slapin_nb> hi, all!
<slapin_nb> ~seen rz2k
<slapin_nb> seems not to be around...
<hno> hi slapin_nb
<slapin_nb> hno: h!
<slapin_nb> hno: hi!
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<oliv3r> ok i just created a file --help somehow
<oliv3r> and I can't remove it :S
<hramrach_> rm -- --help :p
<oliv3r> ohh
<oliv3r> nice trick
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<oliv3r> i think rm ./--help should have worked too
<oliv3r> winrime: ping
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<rellla> ssvb: ping
<ssvb> rellla: pong, but right now I'm kinda busy and will be really back in ~2 hours
<oliv3r> so ~pong
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<hramrach_> huh? sent some patches to linux-sunxi and they neither bounced back nor appear on google
<rellla> ssvb: np, me too. i only wanted to ask, if you or so else tried the new armv5-lib and headers with libhybris and vlc/xbmc?
<hramrach_> is that a different arch lib?
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<rellla> hramrach_: asking me?
<hramrach_> if that's built for different processor type interfacing to that might get quite 'interesting'
<rellla> allwinner says, it's the newest cedarx-lib they have. i asked them for armv7-hf, too. but still waiting ... :p
<rellla> so in the meantime we could try to get the "new" work with libhybris. first we need to check the differences in ABI. there are some.
<oliv3r> hramrach_: google-group ftw
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<oliv3r> wingrime: ping :(
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<oliv3r> wingrime can you checkout cedarx-traces; and run a trace on that mjpeg? it should be playable (single frame jpeg)
<oliv3r> especially interesting to know if you can replay the trace
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<hramrach_> I guess if I don't see the patches nobody else does.
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<hramrach_> yes, script error
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<nove> If someone that is already familiar with libvecore can/want/could/help with the writing of a minimal player, it would be of a immense help
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<rellla> nove: maybe the demo code from allwinner will be of little help? https://github.com/linux-sunxi/cedarx-libs/tree/master/libcedarv/linux-armhf/sample
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<nove> rellla, is what i will be doing next week
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<rellla> nove: ;)
<nove> rellla, i got partial success using libcedarx, but not good because is another abstraction in top of vecore
<rellla> which libcedarx do you mean?
<nove> it hides all the good things
<nove> is the vlc cedar library
<oliv3r> i really could use someone to create a (replayable) trace of the mjpeg in cedarx-traces
<nove> oliv3r, i never tried to play mjpeg, don't if this vlc build can
<nove> oliv3r, i will check
<ssvb_> nove: would it be a good idea to just disable frame dropping in vlc?
<nove> oliv3r, it plays, next get the trace
<nove> ssvb_, must try
<ssvb_> rellla: I have not looked at the new cedar blobs, I don't see much point in that right now (they must provide something that the current blobs can't do)
<ssvb_> rellla: I guess a changelog or some sort of whatsnew info from them would be an unexpected luxury? :)
<nove> oliv3r, it failed to replay, will look forward
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<nove> oliv3r, i fell in my trap and forgot a required command line option
<nove> oliv3r, it replays ok
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<oliv3r> turl: ping
<oliv3r> nove: ok that's really cool; did you trace it? (and replayed the trace?)
<oliv3r> can you pastebin the trace? i'll add it to the repo
<nove> oliv3r, yes it replays
<oliv3r> nove: very cool; can you put it somewhere so I can check it out?
<nove> do a suggestion to were? , is 266k
<nove> oliv3r
<oliv3r> erm
<oliv3r> guess it won't fit into paste.debian.org
<oliv3r> anywhere works really where I can get it; i'll commit it to cedarx-traces
<nove> oliv3r, does xdcc work here?
<nove> oliv3r, can be by email?
<nove> oliv3r, is more easy than to find some decent place to put it
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<oliv3r> oliver@linux-sunxi.org
<mul> oliv3r, i still have to implement the new trace format in the replay tool
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<oliv3r> mul: okay; we can always update the trace; it's upploaded for now
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<mul> mul> oliv3r, i still have to implement the new trace format in the replay tool
<mul> <nove> oliv3r, but this trace can't be replayed replay tool, because of wrong format
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<oliv3r> Turl: is it possible to use a custom toolchaint o build android?
<Turl> oliv3r: to build what of android?
<oliv3r> i'm trying to build cyanogenmod
<oliv3r> (for my new phone first; then for AW)
<oliv3r> but it fails to find libz.so (which I have locally AND is included in 'their' toolchain
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<Turl> oliv3r: can you paste the full error?
<oliv3r> /silo/build/galaxy_s2/android/system/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-linux/4.6.x-google/../../../../i686-linux/bin/as: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<oliv3r> make: *** [/silo/build/galaxy_s2/android/system/out/host/linux-x86/obj/EXECUTABLES/acp_intermediates/acp.o] Error 1
<oliv3r> anyway, I figured, I"ll use my own local compiler; it's fine, I don't need aspecial compiler!
<Turl> oliv3r: do you have libz.so.1 32bit lib then?
<WarheadsSE> since that chain is 32bit anyways
<oliv3r> Turl: duh
<oliv3r> ./prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/sysroot/usr/lib/libz.so.1
<oliv3r> ./prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/x86_64-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/sysroot/usr/lib/libz.so.1
<oliv3r> ./prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.4.3/sysroot/usr/lib/libz.so.1
<oliv3r> i don't even know how to choose the 64bit compiler; i'd rather use that obviously
<oliv3r> and i'd rather use my own local toolchains
<Turl> I would imagine it'd pick the 64bit one automagically on a 64b box
<Turl> try adding ./prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/sysroot/usr/lib/ to LD_LIBRARY_PATH or run ldd on as
<oliv3r> works
<oliv3r> i guess I could use that
<oliv3r> but i was getting curious how to change the toolchain
<oliv3r> I found the var (or so I thought) in envsetup.sh
<mripard_> you can use TARGET_TOOLS_PREFIX=<toolchain-prefix>
<mripard_> ah, the host toolchain?
<oliv3r> either/or/both
<oliv3r> hello mripard_ :)
<oliv3r> interesting e-mail message about mergin i2c drivers btw from ... forgot
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<mripard_> TARGET_TOOLS_PREFIX is only for the croos-toolchain
<mripard_> but it has to be a bionic toolchain obviously
<oliv3r> yeah i allready noticed that
<oliv3r> don't think i can install bionic as a libc (yet) with gentoo
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<mripard_> tsss, what's the point of gentoo then ?
<mripard_> :)
<mripard_> and yeah, I saw that mail, from Wolfram Sang, the I2C maintainer
<Turl> it'd probably break 90% of the software :P bionic is not feature complete
<mripard_> Turl: isn't it another point of gentoo to be 90% broken ? ;)
<Turl> mripard_: I found out that some people actually like gentoo :o
<Turl> :P
<oliv3r> - glibc (gnu)
<oliv3r> - klibc [prob wont work]
<oliv3r> - uclibc [not all arches are ported]
<oliv3r> - newlib [bare metal/no operating system]
<oliv3r> i wonder how hard it would be to add bionic
<Turl> love the "[prob wont work]" :)
<oliv3r> i could manually install bionic just fine, but i ment using crossdev :)
<mripard_> oliv3r: bionic is very picky for a !Android system
<oliv3r> Turl: btw, after that it failed with: host C: acp <= build/tools/acp/acp.c
<oliv3r> prebuilts/tools/gcc-sdk/gcc: line 40: 29974 Segmentation fault $MY_TOOL "$@"
<oliv3r> make: *** [/silo/build/galaxy_s2/android/system/out/host/linux-x86/obj/EXECUTABLES/acp_intermediates/acp.o] Error 139
<oliv3r> so i dunno if i wanna torture myself more :p
<mripard_> you have no wide char support, no full pthread API, even syslog() isn't there
<mripard_> Turl: see? it's broken :)
<oliv3r> well your only installing it to have a compiler (with support)
<oliv3r> i mean, with crossdev; you have properly (sorta) isntalled multiple compilers
<mripard_> ok
<oliv3r> how do you normally handle that? 1 compiler per directory somewhere; resulting in 15 compilers on your system :)
<oliv3r> installing bionic as your main libc; Ouch
<n01_> mripard_: ping (again)? :) have you 2 min to take a look to the new probe function of the wdt driver? I have address some of the Roeck's concerns but I'd like to have a feedback before submitting again to LAKML
<Turl> mripard_: I was hit by lack of full pthread
<mripard_> n01_: again?
<mripard_> sorry, I missed the first one then :S
<Turl> mripard_: it doesn't have readahead either
<mripard_> Turl: it doesn't have a lot of things :)
<oliv3r> can you run dalvic/android in eglibc? :)
<n01_> yeah, BTW rtc driver is in progress and it is a lot of fun :)
<Turl> oliv3r: probably
<Turl> oliv3r: btw, if you want the least pain, may I suggest you use a ubuntu chroot/container?
<mripard_> oliv3r: I saw something like this, I think it was called aliendalvik
<Turl> :)
<mripard_> n01_: cool :)
<oliv3r> Turl: probably; but i was hoping to 'integrate' it into the bsp at somep oint
<n01_> cool for the rtc driver or for the new probe() of the wdt driver? :)
<mripard_> n01_: your probe seems fine
<mripard_> the rtc driver :)
<n01_> :D great ... I'll submit it tomorrow
<n01_> $work is killing me these days :(
<Turl> oliv3r: for those of us running sane(ish) systems it'd work :p (ubuntu, arch, debian)
<oliv3r> :p
<oliv3r> it not finding libz sounds like an env issue if anything
<Turl> n01_: woo, sunxi rtc? :)
<n01_> Turl: yep, sun4i atm
<Turl> mripard_: where's my mmc driver? ;)
<Turl> we're going to be pretty feature complete for 3.11
<Turl> did my v6 routing die again? :p
<hno> Which devices is planned to work in 3.11?
<oliv3r> cubieboard!
<bfree> emac is in net-next so should land in 3.11 (applies to 3.10 also, now I've managed to get a usb2uart I might even manage to test debian's 3.10+emac tonight)
<Turl> hno: wemac landed already
<Turl> i2c is working too, still hasn't landed though
<Turl> s/wemac/emac/
<Turl> bfree: well, those things are developed on top of 3.10-rcX :)
<oliv3r> i2c MAY get merged to a diff driver though :p
<bfree> Turl: yep, I wasn't expecting problems ;)
<Turl> hno: I'm also hoping watchdog, sid and maybe rtc land for 3.11
<oliv3r> i haven't received any other comments
<oliv3r> so gonna submit new driver again soon
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<mripard_> Turl: I don't know, in your tree ? :)
<Turl> mripard_: btw, hansg wrote a new axp driver that looked way cleaner than the aw mess, potentially mainlineable with little effort
<Turl> mripard_: my tree only has the clocks to drive mmc :p
<mripard_> Turl: and my tree has a mmc driver that doesn't even compile
<mripard_> :)
<Turl> mripard_: :D better than no driver at all, right? :)
<mripard_> and yeah, I just looked at the AXP driver
<mripard_> Turl: if you assume that the driver works, I guess so :)
<mripard_> I hadn't much time to look into it unfortunately
<mripard_> between merging my pending patches, work, and getting how to make a bootable SD Card for the A31 to test my patches (which I haven't been able to do yet...), ENOTENOUGHTIME :)
<mripard_> Turl: noticed how I didn't edit the wiki to put my name in front of the MMC WiP thing ? :)
<Turl> mripard_: drachensun has been working on A31 w/ cards iirc
<Turl> the fact that you need to hold a pin to boot from the card is silly though :(
<oliv3r> if you put a 'jumper' on the pin, it always boots from card
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<Turl> oliv3r: jumpering tablets and the like is not nice :P
<oliv3r> blame AW :(
<mripard_> Turl: and last time I tried, I completely broke the boot process somehow, and I can't even boot the stock android that was on the NAND...
<oliv3r> mripard_: can you get into u-boot (any version)?
<oliv3r> md 0x01c00024 1
<mripard_> yep
<oliv3r> what does that say?
<mripard_> actually, I blowed the U-boot environment to have a shell into it during the boot
<oliv3r> bit 6:8 should be the boot-select bits
<mripard_> and when I put the exact same environment, the kernel fails miserably with a weird panic message.
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<mripard_> I'm not at home, so I can't test right now, but I will when I go back
<mripard_> (ie, this week end)
<oliv3r> the pins are inverted though
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<oliv3r> table I made should be accurate however: http://linux-sunxi.org/SRAM_Controller
<mripard_> but I can boot on the SD Card
<mripard_> at least until boot1
<mripard_> and then, I can't manage to make it load uboot, and later the krenel obviously
<mripard_> but that must probably be some stupid mistake on my side
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<oliv3r> Turl: how likly is it that the compiler is set from the XML file? and not detected?
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<Turl> not a good day to use the internet hm
<oliv3r> :(
<Turl> luke's posting to all the lists lately :)
<mripard_> Turl: you have no idea, I have a poor hotel internet connection, while I learned here that my connection at home had been upgraded to 300Mbps/50Mbps :S
<Turl> mripard_: travelling atm?
<Turl> mripard_: it's not my connection that's bad though, it's my VPS's :(
<mripard_> Turl: yep
<Turl> which is even sadder :P
<Turl> mripard_: I have 6/.75Mbit here :(
<mripard_> well, not really travelling, I'm still in france
<mripard_> but yeah, I'm giving a training this week
* Turl wonders why does luke praise .fex so much
<Turl> oliv3r: did you get irssinotifier set up yet? :)
<oliv3r> "its simple"
<oliv3r> i've installed it :p
<oliv3r> are you guys sure that cyanogenmod detects the local arch? I only see x86 references everywhere
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<oliv3r> then again;that all could be target toolchains
<Turl> oliv3r: yeah, notice the TARGET_ARCH over it :)
<mripard_> Turl: what always surprises me is how he much he has no idea what is possible with the device tree
<mripard_> DT definitely has some drawbacks, but definitely not the one he keeps pointing to.
<oliv3r> there was a cross post a while ago from luke about devicetree, with a lot of things that where 'wrong' with it, but i think nearly everything got debunked
<Turl> yeah
<Turl> too bad he doesn't irc much
<Turl> lkcl: ping ping ping? :)
<oliv3r> well he is a busy man
<oliv3r> eoma68; gpl-violations etc
<mripard_> (and I must say that he keeps saying that multiplatform kernel can't possibly work, and every release, more and more platforms continues to prove him wrong.)
<oliv3r> well the entire DT still grows
<oliv3r> it's not really 'done' yet; is it
<oliv3r> i dno't think 'fex' could work for the entire kernel; it'll get horribyl messy
<mripard_> oliv3r: you can already boot the same kernel image on a beagleboard, on a raspberry pi, on a cubieboard or an a Marvell based NAS.
<mripard_> the infrastructure is in place for quite some time already
<mripard_> what needs to be done is for platforms to move to this infrastructure
<oliv3r> yeah, but i meant; it's so 'young' i'm sure there will be things we can't handle yet at some point
<mripard_> it's not that young
<mripard_> it's been used since like forever on PPC
<mripard_> (and actually, Arnd Bergmann, which is one of the two maintainers of arm-soc, was working on PPC at IBM before joining the Linaro's rank)
<oliv3r> well I don't dislike it :)
<mripard_> like I said, there's still some serious drawbacks
<mripard_> like how to probe spidev using it
<mripard_> I had a pretty long mail today about it
<mripard_> and it's not easy
<mripard_> but the "it can't handle the hardware differences" is just bullshit.
<mripard_> it's precisely the point of it
<oliv3r> yeah i kinda didn't get that point
<oliv3r> it's MORE flexible then fex
<Turl> oliv3r: x86_64 is x86 still :P
<oliv3r> so why is it not detecting my arch :( and not using the libz by itself
<oliv3r> i mean, the whole built enviroment appears to be all inclusive
<oliv3r> (a bit messy if you ask me)
<Turl> oliv3r: if you do ldd what does it say?
<oliv3r> missing
<oliv3r> linux-gate.so.1 (0xf77a2000)
<oliv3r> libz.so.1 => not found
<oliv3r> libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7600000)
<oliv3r> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77a3000)
<Turl> oliv3r: mine seem to link to my system's libz
<Turl> /usr/lib32/libz.so.1
<Turl> I dunno how you handle those on gentoo
<oliv3r> good one
<oliv3r> i don't haev multiarch installed it hink
<Turl> oliv3r: well you have /lib32/libc.so.6
<Turl> install libz that way :D
<oliv3r> :p
<oliv3r> but yours is 32 bit aswell then
<Turl> I ldd'ed the 32b one
<oliv3r> bah i do have multilib
<Turl> time to polish my clock code for 3.11 :)
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<oliv3r> ldd prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/host/x86_64-linux-glibc2.7-4.6/bin/x86_64-linux-as
<oliv3r> obviosuly i do have x86_64 bin
<Turl> that one links with the system libs
<oliv3r> that one works fine
<oliv3r> but how does the build system 'choose'; i find no x86_64 reference in build/*
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<Turl> oliv3r: I dunno tbh :P
<Turl> oliv3r: try exporting LOCAL_CXX=g++ LOCAL_CC=gcc
<oliv3r> good idea
<oliv3r> also found: prebuilts/tools/gcc-sdk/gcc
<Turl> oliv3r: hmm forget that
<oliv3r> btw, as not finding libz.so is really a bug int heir toolchainsetup imo
<Turl> oliv3r: try this, export BUILD_HOST_64bit=1
<Turl> # By default we build everything in 32-bit, because it gives us
<Turl> # more consistency between the host tools and the target.
<Turl> # BUILD_HOST_64bit=1 overrides it for tool like emulator
<Turl> # which can benefit from 64-bit host arch.
<oliv3r> well 32bit host chain is broken :p so must use 64bit
<oliv3r> yay goes further onow
<Turl> bbl
<oliv3r> bb :)
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<oliv3r> oh great; build errors on the framework
<oliv3r> this really is a bigger pile of dung then I thought :)
<rz2k> hno: slapin_n1: got progress with nand http://fpaste.org/16852/
<rz2k> not sure if this badblock amount is ok
<lkcl> oliv3r: nobody really replied.
<lkcl> mripard_: if you're looking at just the published linux kernels that are available and upstream in order to make that assessment and conclusion, you're way *way* off.
<lkcl> Turl: apologies. yeah. and a full-time job. and the kde tablet. and the 15in laptop. and playing with my daughter. and dealing with serious health issues which if not addressed could end up being life-threatening. and dealing with the stupid, stupid inland revenue. and... err fuckit i'm too busy to list them all, and it's late.
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<Turl> lkcl: let's arrange one day and discuss dt on irc here with mripard_; why you think it doesn't work, and why we think it does
<Turl> lkcl: in any case, health issues come first, get treated asap