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<hno> mripard / oliv3r Falcon boot mode should be supported now if you want to test.. but a little unsure on the boot params address. Set it to recommended SDRAM+0x100, but that's maybe a bit tight if using fdt.
<hno> see u-boot github wiki page for mmc storage layout.
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<TheSeven> I've built XBMC according to with CedarX drivers. However h.264 video (I haven't anything else yet) is running at ~3 FPS. And it seems like the A10HWR environment variable doesn't have any effect. Even if I set it to 0 it runs at the same speed. Ideas what could be wrong?
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<setkeh> Hey Guys im looking here at the sunxi uboot from my cubieboard A10 and it has options to boot from nand and mmc but is there a way i can ask it to boot off of a USB key i have plugged into a powered hub ??
<hno> setkeh, not yet. But you can tell the kernel to have it's root on an USB device, even kexec another kernel from USB if ýou like,
<setkeh> ahh np i put it on the mmc then :D i would like to make it a dualboot instead of modifying the install i have on nand :D
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<oliv3r> hno: kernel would be at sdram + 0x100? and fdt at sdram?
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<oliv3r> i'll read some docu :)
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<oliv3r> is github having issues? can't seem to pull
<oliv3r> oh error 500 on
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<mnemoc> Availability Experiencing Problems
<mnemoc> 7:22 UTC We are working to restore service to We will provide updates as more information becomes available.
<oliv3r> yeah
<oliv3r> that satus update is from 7:@2; i compalined here at 9:22
<oliv3r> so just before the status :)
<oliv3r> so yes, github down, can't sync :(
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<ynezz> all your clouds are belong to us
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<boycottg00gle> one really shouldn't use github either
<boycottg00gle> shouldn't be that difficult to distribute some git urls?
<boycottg00gle> why do we use git after all?
<boycottg00gle> maybe git should have some functionality to automatically notify of clones
<n01> what's wrong with github?
<boycottg00gle> activity tracking and always down
<boycottg00gle> central instance
<n01> try bitbucket
<boycottg00gle> why rely on any 3rd party?
<ynezz> convenient
<n01> because not always you have a server
<boycottg00gle> freedembox
<mripard> boycottg00gle: you're going to end up with a pretty long IRC nick :)
<boycottg00gle> freedombox of course
<boycottg00gle> maybe boycott∈evilcompany would be ok?
<n01> boycottg00gle: I want my code always accessible from everywhere
<boycottg00gle> n01: where is the problem?
<n01> I don'w want a small server running home h24
<mripard> boycottg00gle: while I see the point with google, I fail to see it with github.
<mripard> you're concerned that a third-party have access to your open-source code?
<n01> :)
<boycottg00gle> mripard: i am concerned a 3rd party tracking all my activity and failing every day
<boycottg00gle> suppose m$ buys github
<mripard> ok, then MS has access to your code
<mripard> what changed?
<boycottg00gle> mripard: it isn't about the code - it is about the workflow
<mripard> I mean, it could very well get your code anyway if it's open-source
<mripard> and you have no retention what so ever
<boycottg00gle> mripard: i see you don't get it
<ynezz> stop wasting his time, pls
<ynezz> he has something to mainline :p
<mripard> boycottg00gle: what workflow?
<mripard> git != github
<boycottg00gle> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
<boycottg00gle> git exited abnormally with code 128.
<n01> mripard: since I'm fed up with asking feedback for my patch, it would be possible to incorporate it in your next set of patches?
<mripard> n01: like I said, I'm not really supposed to, especially without the maintainer's Acked-by
<mripard> if he doesn't merge it for 3.12, I'll take it for 3.13.
<n01> no prob, I'll wait
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<oliv3r> boycottg00gle: because not everybody has the bandwith, the nat, etc ability to share? github makes that much easier
<oliv3r> don't see github as a 'service' see it as a mule
<oliv3r> it doesn't matter which 3rd party git resource you use, they are generous and donate you bandwidth
<oliv3r> your activity is tracked no matter what service you use.
<oliv3r> git clone; grep activity.
<oliv3r> so even if I use my own server, anybodyo that has public access can track it
<boycottg00gle> oliv3r: nah - you only see what i put in git
<n01> oliv3r: donate? I pay 5$/m ;)
<mnemoc> it's free software... the goal is that EVERYONE can access it, track it, review it, ....
<oliv3r> boycottg00gle: how can github track more then that?
<oliv3r> i push to github, everybody sees it. i push to; everybody sees the same thing?
<boycottg00gle> oliv3r: typically projects start to use github for git. then for issue tracking, ...
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<oliv3r> i can understand you may few github as evil (tm) i suppose, i fail to see how they see 'more' then everybody else
<oliv3r> so sourceforge is evil too? it knows all?
<boycottg00gle> if you only use git you don't need github
<boycottg00gle> just get some webspace done
<oliv3r> i still fail to see how it knows more then anybody else, as it's all publically accessable
<oliv3r> you can't host a git on 'some webserver'
<boycottg00gle> you can
<oliv3r> also, i'm technically illiterate, why should I pay some random webhost, install git server (securly?)? why?
<oliv3r> but my webserver only allows my to upload stuff via ftp
<oliv3r> how do I start the binary
<boycottg00gle> then it is crap
<oliv3r> i'm sorry to say, and nofi but your full of shit :)
<boycottg00gle> just get your own server
<oliv3r> but i'm not smart enough to run my own server
<boycottg00gle> huh?
<oliv3r> i don't want people to know my IP
<oliv3r> i don't want to pay for bandwith when there's companies donating BW for free
<boycottg00gle> companies do nothing for free
<oliv3r> Normally I would ay, 'nothing in life is free, there's always a catch'
<oliv3r> in the case of github however, they want people to be happy and familiar with github, and use it for their 'private, pay for, cooperate' stuff
<boycottg00gle> they have to earn money
<oliv3r> so the public users are the 'testers' so to say
<oliv3r> but I also belive, right now, github simply donates the BW to open soruce projects
<boycottg00gle> naive
<oliv3r> how so?
<oliv3r> My code is public GPL stuff
<oliv3r> it doesn't matter to me if its on github, bitpucket or gitourious
<oliv3r> hell, ideally i'd have it on all 3, so it's easier for people to access
<oliv3r> how can they possibly monatize GPLed source
<boycottg00gle> let's agree to disagree
<boycottg00gle> have to do some work
<oliv3r> You are absolutly right when it comes to google, facebook etc etc, and I whole heartedly agree there
<oliv3r> and in the case of M$ buying github; git remove github; git add gitourious; git push :)
<boycottg00gle> and the issues? the wiki? ...
<mnemoc> the gh issues aren't really used
<mnemoc> and the wiki is self hosted
<oliv3r> but even so, what's the problem there?
<oliv3r> wiki history is public is it not?
<oliv3r> issues/ml both are public
<oliv3r> anything can be mined by anybody
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<boycottg00gle> it is much easier if you have direct access
<oliv3r> hell even linux kernel is hosted on github (parallel to
<oliv3r> easier, probably
<oliv3r> but privacy issues? i doubt it
<boycottg00gle> oliv3r: which is your github user page?
<oliv3r> :)
<oliv3r> oliver is nearly always taken :(
<oliv3r> boycottg00gle: btw my personal git server runs at ;)
<oliv3r> i haven't pushed my sunxi work there, because I don't want my bw sucked dry by random users who don't know what they are doing anyway :p
<boycottg00gle> no need to get personal
<oliv3r> i'm not getting personal?
<boycottg00gle> ok then i misread
<boycottg00gle> sorry
<oliv3r> i think you are on a good path :) just confused why your against github ;)
<oliv3r> If you'd ask me 'do you trust them' i'd say noway :p never trust a company :)
<oliv3r> and if they do get all evil; changing git host is just a 'push' away ;)
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<oliv3r> yay i can pull again ;)
<boycottg00gle> hdmi is really funny here: most of the time it doesn't work but after some uptime it works
<boycottg00gle> in the log i then have: [ 4001.569389] ParseEDID although i disabled edid in the uenv.txt
<oliv3r> my hdmi on my cubie1 was h aving issues too
<oliv3r> but wiggling seemed to solve it half of the time
<oliv3r> uenv.txt is a u-boot thing? i think you ment cmdline?
<boycottg00gle> you can pass to cmdline
<oliv3r> but what if your kernel has a built in cmdline ;0
<boycottg00gle> cat /proc/cmdline: console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait loglevel=8 panic=10 disp.screen0_output_type=3 disp.screen0_output_mode=1280x1024p60 console=tty0
<oliv3r> wasn't htere some edit=0 or something I forgot
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<boycottg00gle> you mean ?
<boycottg00gle> ah edit ?
<boycottg00gle> don't get it
<oliv3r> EDID*
<oliv3r> let me double check before i spew lies :)
<boycottg00gle> i don't want to use EDID
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<boycottg00gle> i want to set the mode explicitely
<oliv3r> yep, so disable edit :)
<oliv3r> edid*
<boycottg00gle> that is why i use: disp.screen0_output_mode=1280x1024p60
<boycottg00gle> (would have thought this disables EDID)
<oliv3r> ah i see, disp.screen0_output_mode=EDID:blabal; remove EDID: to force
<oliv3r> yeah, been a while ;)
<oliv3r> i thought to remember it was EDID=blabla;
<boycottg00gle> maybe i am wrong
<oliv3r> but wiggling for me makes the difference, bad contacts etc
<boycottg00gle> hmm
<oliv3r> no your disp.screen0 is right
<oliv3r> hno: seems to do something; getting some subcommand not supported errors with latest head
<oliv3r> U-Boot SPL 2013.10-rc1-08189-g2b5ac3c
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<Turl> boycottg00gle: you're using 3.4 right?
<boycottg00gle> Turl: stage/sunxi-3.4
<Turl> just checking, because 3.3 doesn't have the disp kernel parameters from what I know.
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<oliv3r> Turl: mornin'
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<Turl> morning oliv3r
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<Turl> oliv3r: postman got my CB2 :D
<Turl> I probably won't be home by the time he attempts delivery :(
<oliv3r> YAY
<oliv3r> :(
<mnemoc> Turl: well... you'll get it tomorrow. good enough considering how long you have waited already
<Turl> s/you'll get it/you'll have to pick it up/
<RaYmAn> a lot better than it being stuck some unknown place :P
<Turl> yeah, trackchecker lists 70d since shipping :)
<Turl> RaYmAn: haha
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<Turl> bbl guys
<oliv3r> see ya turl
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<TheSeven> I've built XBMC according to with CedarX drivers. However h.264 video (I haven't anything else yet) is running at ~3 FPS. And it seems like the A10HWR environment variable doesn't have any effect. Even if I set it to 0 it runs at the same speed. Ideas what could be wrong?
<oliv3r> no clue, i haven't used cedarX yet
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<rz2k> TheSeven: a10hwr needs to be set before building
<rz2k> also the author of that is around often - rellla [] :)
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<TheSeven> rz2k: oh, speaking of it :)
<TheSeven> and he's apparently a fellow german :)
<rz2k> yes
<TheSeven> anyway, I *did* set A10HWR before building, even though the instructions suggest you have to set that before executing it instead
<rz2k> maybe he changed something, i didnt build it for half a year
<rz2k> but it was working
<TheSeven> I'm running rm's video kernel, ubuntu 13.04 (hardfloat) headless, compiled XBMC on-device, modprobe mali, and execute xbmc
<TheSeven> is there anything that I overlooked?
<TheSeven> do I need to manually add some cedar libs?
<rz2k> no idea, sorry :(
* TheSeven pings rellla then :)
<rz2k> i did everything by guide and it was working
<TheSeven> hm, there's /allwinner/xbmc-pvr-binhf/lib/ at least
<TheSeven> hm, looks like a kernel module named sun4i_cedar_mod might be the culprit, not mentioned in the howto at all
<oliv3r> you do need the opensource kernel module to make cedarX work
<oliv3r> without it, cedarX can't access the hardware
<rz2k> TheSeven: also check if xbmc can open /dev/disp and /dev/cedardev
<rz2k> i remember having problems with that, then i fixed them with udev
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<rellla> TheSeven: ^
<rellla> TheSeven: do you have /dev/cedar_dev ? i don't know, what config rm is using in his kernels...
<rellla> At least there shouldn't be changes in xbmca10/stage/Frodo branch that make h264 break :S
<rellla> And, A10HWR=1 must be set at runtime, setting it for building has no effect. Also, modprobing mali/disp/lcd/hdmi depends on the kernel you use. Some of them are obsolete with latest kernel. Don't ask which...
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<rellla> It seems, that you have to load cedar module first, as it is not builtin.
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<xDR1TeK> hi all
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<TheSeven> rellla: manually doing modprobe sun4i_cedar_mod helped with most of the slowness
<TheSeven> it still isn't really smooth, but more like 15-25fps now
<rellla> are you doing the libhybris-way?
<TheSeven> which seems to fit that "rubberbanding" effect described on the wiki, i.e. might just be a codec bug
<TheSeven> I'm doing whatever the code in your git does :)
<xDR1TeK> I have issues with my ts and wifi, hoever, i got the right driver for the chip i think
<rellla> TheSeven: afaik a "smoother" way with xbmc on a10 and linux is not known atm
<rellla> everything else is a buggy cedar-binary or a not so perfect implementation ;)
<xDR1TeK> chip is GSL3680 and driver is A13_GSLx680.ko
<xDR1TeK> this is the link to dmesg ->
<TheSeven> rellla: can you recommend an android image to pick the files from?
<rellla> i used the files provided by ssvb
<TheSeven> does seem like a good idea?
<TheSeven> ok
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<xDR1TeK> please can anyone just skim over my dmesg output and figure our if the touch screen driver is proper
<xDR1TeK> i just can't understand why the damn thing won't work
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<TheSeven> xDR1TeK: I don't have a clue about touchscreen drivers, but whatever you posted doesn't look like a dmesg, more like some odd init script :)
<xDR1TeK> my fault
<xDR1TeK> i sent the init.sun5i.rc
<xDR1TeK> i think
<xDR1TeK> here it is, the dmesg dump ->
<TheSeven> xDR1TeK: hm, is that connected to SPI?
<xDR1TeK> TheSeven i have no idea as it is in my tablet
<TheSeven> the "cannot find any using configuration for all spi controllers!" line and above smells a bit fishy
<rz2k> TheSeven: "like 15-25fps now" - with pure CPU rendering you would have something like 5fps I guess :p
<xDR1TeK> mmm
<rz2k> i remember doing some test of ffmpeg
<rz2k> couldnt handle even 720p
<TheSeven> rz2k: yes, that's what I had before :)
<rz2k> VLC instead with cedar, did 1080p without problems
<xDR1TeK> TheSeven in few words, what should i do? i formated my tablet and now have to do everything from scratch.
<xDR1TeK> do you think i can do it?
<TheSeven> I have no idea, this was just a wild guess
<TheSeven> I haven't dealt with tablets yet :)
<xDR1TeK> oh i c
<xDR1TeK> thanks for your help anyways
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<merbanan> so if I want to help out with getting the cedar video accelerator working, is there a common base people are working on ?
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<TheSeven> hm... seens like hybris libve is equally buggy as the native linux version
<TheSeven> both the choppyness and corruption were the same
<TheSeven> merbanan: using proprietary libs or reverse engineered and reimplemented ones?
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<merbanan> TheSeven: reverse engineered and reimplemented ones
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<oliv3r> highly offtopic question, i'm running XBMC on an old PC and i see 20% for SD and 60% for HD CPU usage. How can I check if VPDAU is being properly used
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<ssvb> TheSeven: you are likely getting choppiness because of mali overhead, you can try VLC instead of XBMC
<ssvb> TheSeven: as for corruption, is this problematic video sample listed at ?
<TheSeven> ssvb: I'm getting chroma corruption (luma is OK) sometimes after ctrl+c'ing xbmc
<TheSeven> so I guess that's out of scope for now
<ssvb> TheSeven: the blue tinted video?
<TheSeven> no, completely garbled colors and artifacts
<TheSeven> a reboot fixes that
<TheSeven> but all of this happened with both linux and hybris libvecore
<ssvb> is it reproducible with VLC?
<TheSeven> I haven't tried vlc at all yet
<TheSeven> does cedarx also handle scaling, or is that done by mali or even software?
<TheSeven> I'm playing 720p25 files on a 720p50 hdmi output, so frame rate shouldn't be an issue. however I guess it has to do scaling because I've had to correct overscan in XBMC (the TV panel is rather dumb)
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<ssvb> TheSeven: the display controller provides hardware overlays, which can handle scaling
<ssvb> TheSeven: VLC just decodes video to such scaled hardware overlay
<ssvb> TheSeven: XBMC tries to do something fancy with mali, so it is generally slower
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<TheSeven> guess I'll have to compile VLC tonight then
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<libv> does anyone have working mali binaries and the es2tri util installed?
<libv> i just got "S0032: no default precision defined for variable" when trying to run es2tri over the lima mesa driver
<libv> if you have es2gears, then you also have es2tri
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<oliv3r> why can't I find a debian ati vpdau howto :(
<oliv3r> libv: i really have to setup an SD card that does the whole 3D cedarX thing so I can test those things
<oliv3r> libv: right now i have 2 mainline SD cards, which are like 5 mb used space :p and 1 with Fedora19 i think
<libv> oliv3r: nm then
<libv> just if anyone just has that setup handy and running :)
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<jemk> woohoo, first h264 video decoded without vecore blobs
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<bfree> jemk: congrats!
<jemk> uh, and it also was the only one for now...
<jemk> highly experimental...
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<oliv3r> jemk: wow, that's heavy
<oliv3r> anybody heard or knows of windows for A10?
<oliv3r> we know a10 can boot wince, but are there drivers out? most notably GPS ones?
<Turl> said and done, I got the postman notice :p
<oliv3r> Turl: grats!
<Turl> thx :)
<hno> oliv3r, any idea what subcommands that would be?
<oliv3r> hno: absolutly no idea :)
<oliv3r> i just ran the the tutorial
<oliv3r> i'll take a look at it when i find osme time
<hno> oliv3r, you have to ask Allwinner on the wince question I think. Doubt anyone else knows, and wince licensing do not encourage sharing of knowledge.
<oliv3r> well TJ from replicant says we could get more info for the GPS from the windows drivers
<oliv3r> TJ is re-ing the GPS driver for the S3
<hno> oliv3r, I think quite a bit of more info can be found in the Linux driver, with debug symbols and all..
<oliv3r> true
<hno> loading this into IDA Pro decompiler should produce almost readable C I think..
<oliv3r> well no hardware makes it near impossible anyway
<hno> It's nut much hardware missing to be honest.
<hno> It's not..
<oliv3r> yeah, but we can only guess how to connect what
<oliv3r> not 1 single example or isntruction
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<hno> pinout is known, and there is nothing strange. Standard interface for GPS radio.
<hno> and I would suppose there is something in Allwinner android that can digest what interface gps.ko is providing to userspace if not standard.
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<mnemoc> i blocks diagram i saw showed at external RF chip, like the PHY for ethernet
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<Turl> hno: ida's hexrays costs an arm and a leg and is not sold to anyone
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<Turl> rz2k: buy now ;)
<Turl> rz2k: lol, the mac edition costs 14$ more than win or linux ones :P
<rz2k> cuz fancy buttons
<rz2k> !
<ynezz> more pixels...
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<wingrime> Turl: also, looks like guy from ML used such tool
<wingrime> Turl: or any dissasembler
<wingrime> I still wait any responce from him
<wingrime> maybe I need mail him directly
<Turl> wingrime: code is too nice to be produced by such tool
<Turl> disassembled c is very ugly
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<wingrime> Turl: yes , but you configure IDA and add type information
<Turl> wingrime: it's still very ugly C
<wingrime> Turl: IDA is Interactive Disasembler - it means you can change listing online , and fix something
<wingrime> without dissasembler you can specifity function protos to IDA
<Turl> wingrime: it's still very ugly C :)
<wingrime> Turl: indeed but you can fix it by hand after
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<oliv3r> i made screen crash somehow
<n01> oliv3r: switch to tmux
<oliv3r> i've used screen for almost 10 years
<oliv3r> never had that happen
<oliv3r> i was listing a long listing and it just 'stalled'
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<ojn> mripard: is anyone working on u-boot for a31?
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<xtofury> ok I finally got my 8" touchscreen working :) thanks to whomever posted that apk of tscalibrate that actually works proper.
<xtofury> there is one issue that's popped up. There are no FTDI drivers in makemenu :(
<xtofury> anybody deal with this already?
<xtofury> err menuconfig meant
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<Turl> xtofury: ftdi what? serial?
<Turl> over usb?
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<arsonik> Hi !
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<xtofury> yes trying to figure out how to get an arduino to interface so I can get arduino commander from google play to work.
<xtofury> oh and turl thanks for helping me with that touchscreen issue... but one weird thing is the dependencies are weird, make menuconfig begs for x64 libncurses-dev, whereas the make -j3 command in the base folder of the sdk wants libncurses:i386, is there any way to make em both happy without having to apt-get them all the time?
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<xtofury> if I get through this all I need is to get through building an APK, I'll figure out kiosk mode later...
<xtofury> the drivers I found do not seem to be for v3.x.x of the kernel :( And the java drivers seem to be a cheap hack that just won't work.
<xtofury> I've thought of just using ttl but then I won't have snazzy arduino commander like interface to show ppl till the apk is done.
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<Turl> xtofury: there's ftdi drivers on the kernel
<Turl> you should just figure out the right option and enable them
<Turl> an easy way to do it would be getting an lsmod on your desktop before and after plugging the arduino and see what gets loaded
<xtofury> ok I'll grab that and see if that gets me a little further, I know the device knows it is there, but it is not allowing arduino commander to detect the device (but there is a usb utility that I used that displayed it recognizing the device when plugged in)... so then this is an issue with android itself and I can leave the kernel alone? I was expecting to see the FTDI option in make
<xtofury> menuconfig like it is for other linux distros.
<Turl> xtofury: well I see CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO, but it might be a generic driver, I dunno
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<Turl> xtofury: back to apt, I'm not on debian atm, but you should be able to keep both i386 and amd64 versions of ncurses installed
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<xtofury> hmmmmm where's that because I thought I would find it under Device Drivers -> USB Support -> USB Serial Converter Support -> USB FTDI Single Port Serial Driver
<Turl> xtofury: exactly therer
<Turl> there*
<xtofury> yeah not in this one, I get to USB Serial Converter Support and get an empty menu
<Turl> xtofury: type / then type fdti and hit enter
<Turl> ftdi sorry
<Turl> check the depends on and make sure you have all what's needed
<xtofury> USB_SERIAL=n
<Turl> well, usb serial is the thing that gets you to the menu :)
<Turl> check it before you go in
<xtofury> oh man that was easy
<xtofury> lol
<xtofury> ok I got it here...
<xtofury> that solves it, thanks turl...
<xtofury> gunna run to a power outlet and compile this :)
<xtofury> thanks again (that's 3 times you've bailed my n00by mistakes out).
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