<hno>
mripard / oliv3r Falcon boot mode should be supported now if you want to test.. but a little unsure on the boot params address. Set it to recommended SDRAM+0x100, but that's maybe a bit tight if using fdt.
<hno>
see u-boot github wiki page for mmc storage layout.
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<TheSeven>
I've built XBMC according to http://linux-sunxi.org/XBMC with CedarX drivers. However h.264 video (I haven't anything else yet) is running at ~3 FPS. And it seems like the A10HWR environment variable doesn't have any effect. Even if I set it to 0 it runs at the same speed. Ideas what could be wrong?
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<setkeh>
Hey Guys im looking here at the sunxi uboot from my cubieboard A10 and it has options to boot from nand and mmc but is there a way i can ask it to boot off of a USB key i have plugged into a powered hub ??
<hno>
setkeh, not yet. But you can tell the kernel to have it's root on an USB device, even kexec another kernel from USB if ýou like,
<setkeh>
ahh np i put it on the mmc then :D i would like to make it a dualboot instead of modifying the install i have on nand :D
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<oliv3r>
hno: kernel would be at sdram + 0x100? and fdt at sdram?
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<oliv3r>
i'll read some docu :)
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<oliv3r>
is github having issues? can't seem to pull
<oliv3r>
oh error 500 on github.com
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<mnemoc>
7:22 UTC We are working to restore service to github.com. We will provide updates as more information becomes available.
<oliv3r>
yeah
<oliv3r>
that satus update is from 7:@2; i compalined here at 9:22
<oliv3r>
so just before the status :)
<oliv3r>
so yes, github down, can't sync :(
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<ynezz>
all your clouds are belong to us
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<boycottg00gle>
one really shouldn't use github either
<boycottg00gle>
shouldn't be that difficult to distribute some git urls?
<boycottg00gle>
why do we use git after all?
<boycottg00gle>
maybe git should have some functionality to automatically notify of clones
<n01>
what's wrong with github?
<boycottg00gle>
activity tracking and always down
<boycottg00gle>
central instance
<n01>
try bitbucket
<boycottg00gle>
why rely on any 3rd party?
<ynezz>
convenient
<n01>
because not always you have a server
<boycottg00gle>
freedembox
<mripard>
boycottg00gle: you're going to end up with a pretty long IRC nick :)
<boycottg00gle>
freedombox of course
<boycottg00gle>
maybe boycott∈evilcompany would be ok?
<n01>
boycottg00gle: I want my code always accessible from everywhere
<boycottg00gle>
n01: where is the problem?
<n01>
I don'w want a small server running home h24
<mripard>
boycottg00gle: while I see the point with google, I fail to see it with github.
<mripard>
you're concerned that a third-party have access to your open-source code?
<n01>
:)
<boycottg00gle>
mripard: i am concerned a 3rd party tracking all my activity and failing every day
<boycottg00gle>
suppose m$ buys github
<mripard>
ok, then MS has access to your code
<mripard>
what changed?
<boycottg00gle>
mripard: it isn't about the code - it is about the workflow
<mripard>
I mean, it could very well get your code anyway if it's open-source
<mripard>
and you have no retention what so ever
<boycottg00gle>
mripard: i see you don't get it
<ynezz>
stop wasting his time, pls
<ynezz>
he has something to mainline :p
<mripard>
boycottg00gle: what workflow?
<mripard>
git != github
<boycottg00gle>
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
<boycottg00gle>
git exited abnormally with code 128.
<n01>
mripard: since I'm fed up with asking feedback for my patch, it would be possible to incorporate it in your next set of patches?
<mripard>
n01: like I said, I'm not really supposed to, especially without the maintainer's Acked-by
<mripard>
if he doesn't merge it for 3.12, I'll take it for 3.13.
<n01>
no prob, I'll wait
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<oliv3r>
boycottg00gle: because not everybody has the bandwith, the nat, etc ability to share? github makes that much easier
<oliv3r>
don't see github as a 'service' see it as a mule
<oliv3r>
it doesn't matter which 3rd party git resource you use, they are generous and donate you bandwidth
<oliv3r>
your activity is tracked no matter what service you use.
<oliv3r>
git clone; grep activity.
<oliv3r>
so even if I use my own server, anybodyo that has public access can track it
<boycottg00gle>
oliv3r: nah - you only see what i put in git
<n01>
oliv3r: donate? I pay 5$/m ;)
<mnemoc>
it's free software... the goal is that EVERYONE can access it, track it, review it, ....
<oliv3r>
boycottg00gle: how can github track more then that?
<oliv3r>
i push to github, everybody sees it. i push to mydomain.nl; everybody sees the same thing?
<boycottg00gle>
oliv3r: typically projects start to use github for git. then for issue tracking, ...
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<oliv3r>
i can understand you may few github as evil (tm) i suppose, i fail to see how they see 'more' then everybody else
<oliv3r>
so sourceforge is evil too? it knows all?
<boycottg00gle>
if you only use git you don't need github
<boycottg00gle>
just get some webspace done
<oliv3r>
i still fail to see how it knows more then anybody else, as it's all publically accessable
<oliv3r>
you can't host a git on 'some webserver'
<boycottg00gle>
you can
<oliv3r>
also, i'm technically illiterate, why should I pay some random webhost, install git server (securly?)? why?
<oliv3r>
but my webserver only allows my to upload stuff via ftp
<oliv3r>
how do I start the binary
<boycottg00gle>
then it is crap
<oliv3r>
i'm sorry to say, and nofi but your full of shit :)
<boycottg00gle>
just get your own server
<oliv3r>
but i'm not smart enough to run my own server
<boycottg00gle>
huh?
<oliv3r>
i don't want people to know my IP
<oliv3r>
i don't want to pay for bandwith when there's companies donating BW for free
<boycottg00gle>
companies do nothing for free
<oliv3r>
Normally I would ay, 'nothing in life is free, there's always a catch'
<oliv3r>
in the case of github however, they want people to be happy and familiar with github, and use it for their 'private, pay for, cooperate' stuff
<boycottg00gle>
they have to earn money
<oliv3r>
so the public users are the 'testers' so to say
<oliv3r>
but I also belive, right now, github simply donates the BW to open soruce projects
<boycottg00gle>
naive
<oliv3r>
how so?
<oliv3r>
My code is public GPL stuff
<oliv3r>
it doesn't matter to me if its on github, bitpucket or gitourious
<oliv3r>
hell, ideally i'd have it on all 3, so it's easier for people to access
<oliv3r>
how can they possibly monatize GPLed source
<boycottg00gle>
let's agree to disagree
<boycottg00gle>
have to do some work
<oliv3r>
You are absolutly right when it comes to google, facebook etc etc, and I whole heartedly agree there
<oliv3r>
and in the case of M$ buying github; git remove github; git add gitourious; git push :)
<boycottg00gle>
and the issues? the wiki? ...
<mnemoc>
the gh issues aren't really used
<mnemoc>
and the wiki is self hosted
<oliv3r>
but even so, what's the problem there?
<oliv3r>
wiki history is public is it not?
<oliv3r>
issues/ml both are public
<oliv3r>
anything can be mined by anybody
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<boycottg00gle>
it is much easier if you have direct access
<oliv3r>
hell even linux kernel is hosted on github (parallel to git.linux.org)
<oliv3r>
easier, probably
<oliv3r>
but privacy issues? i doubt it
<boycottg00gle>
oliv3r: which is your github user page?
<oliv3r>
github.com/oliv3r
<oliv3r>
:)
<oliv3r>
oliver is nearly always taken :(
<oliv3r>
boycottg00gle: btw my personal git server runs at git.schinagl.nl ;)
<oliv3r>
i haven't pushed my sunxi work there, because I don't want my bw sucked dry by random users who don't know what they are doing anyway :p
<boycottg00gle>
no need to get personal
<oliv3r>
i'm not getting personal?
<boycottg00gle>
ok then i misread
<boycottg00gle>
sorry
<oliv3r>
i think you are on a good path :) just confused why your against github ;)
<oliv3r>
If you'd ask me 'do you trust them' i'd say noway :p never trust a company :)
<oliv3r>
and if they do get all evil; changing git host is just a 'push' away ;)
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<oliv3r>
yay i can pull again ;)
<boycottg00gle>
hdmi is really funny here: most of the time it doesn't work but after some uptime it works
<boycottg00gle>
in the log i then have: [ 4001.569389] ParseEDID although i disabled edid in the uenv.txt
<oliv3r>
my hdmi on my cubie1 was h aving issues too
<oliv3r>
but wiggling seemed to solve it half of the time
<oliv3r>
uenv.txt is a u-boot thing? i think you ment cmdline?
<boycottg00gle>
you can pass to cmdline
<oliv3r>
but what if your kernel has a built in cmdline ;0
<Turl>
I probably won't be home by the time he attempts delivery :(
<oliv3r>
YAY
<oliv3r>
:(
<mnemoc>
Turl: well... you'll get it tomorrow. good enough considering how long you have waited already
<Turl>
s/you'll get it/you'll have to pick it up/
<RaYmAn>
a lot better than it being stuck some unknown place :P
<Turl>
yeah, trackchecker lists 70d since shipping :)
<Turl>
RaYmAn: haha
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<Turl>
bbl guys
<oliv3r>
see ya turl
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<TheSeven>
I've built XBMC according to http://linux-sunxi.org/XBMC with CedarX drivers. However h.264 video (I haven't anything else yet) is running at ~3 FPS. And it seems like the A10HWR environment variable doesn't have any effect. Even if I set it to 0 it runs at the same speed. Ideas what could be wrong?
<oliv3r>
no clue, i haven't used cedarX yet
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<rz2k>
TheSeven: a10hwr needs to be set before building
<rz2k>
also the author of that is around often - rellla [~rellla@p5B0794C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] :)
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<TheSeven>
rz2k: oh, speaking of it :)
<TheSeven>
and he's apparently a fellow german :)
<rz2k>
yes
<TheSeven>
anyway, I *did* set A10HWR before building, even though the instructions suggest you have to set that before executing it instead
<rz2k>
maybe he changed something, i didnt build it for half a year
<rz2k>
but it was working
<TheSeven>
I'm running rm's video kernel, ubuntu 13.04 (hardfloat) headless, compiled XBMC on-device, modprobe mali, and execute xbmc
<TheSeven>
is there anything that I overlooked?
<TheSeven>
do I need to manually add some cedar libs?
<rz2k>
no idea, sorry :(
* TheSeven
pings rellla then :)
<rz2k>
i did everything by guide and it was working
<TheSeven>
hm, there's /allwinner/xbmc-pvr-binhf/lib/libvecore.so at least
<TheSeven>
hm, looks like a kernel module named sun4i_cedar_mod might be the culprit, not mentioned in the howto at all
<oliv3r>
you do need the opensource kernel module to make cedarX work
<oliv3r>
without it, cedarX can't access the hardware
<rz2k>
TheSeven: also check if xbmc can open /dev/disp and /dev/cedardev
<rz2k>
i remember having problems with that, then i fixed them with udev
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<rellla>
TheSeven: ^
<rellla>
TheSeven: do you have /dev/cedar_dev ? i don't know, what config rm is using in his kernels...
<rellla>
At least there shouldn't be changes in xbmca10/stage/Frodo branch that make h264 break :S
<rellla>
And, A10HWR=1 must be set at runtime, setting it for building has no effect. Also, modprobing mali/disp/lcd/hdmi depends on the kernel you use. Some of them are obsolete with latest kernel. Don't ask which...
<xDR1TeK>
please can anyone just skim over my dmesg output and figure our if the touch screen driver is proper
<xDR1TeK>
i just can't understand why the damn thing won't work
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<TheSeven>
xDR1TeK: I don't have a clue about touchscreen drivers, but whatever you posted doesn't look like a dmesg, more like some odd init script :)
<oliv3r>
highly offtopic question, i'm running XBMC on an old PC and i see 20% for SD and 60% for HD CPU usage. How can I check if VPDAU is being properly used
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<ssvb>
TheSeven: you are likely getting choppiness because of mali overhead, you can try VLC instead of XBMC
<TheSeven>
ssvb: I'm getting chroma corruption (luma is OK) sometimes after ctrl+c'ing xbmc
<TheSeven>
so I guess that's out of scope for now
<ssvb>
TheSeven: the blue tinted video?
<TheSeven>
no, completely garbled colors and artifacts
<TheSeven>
a reboot fixes that
<TheSeven>
but all of this happened with both linux and hybris libvecore
<ssvb>
is it reproducible with VLC?
<TheSeven>
I haven't tried vlc at all yet
<TheSeven>
does cedarx also handle scaling, or is that done by mali or even software?
<TheSeven>
I'm playing 720p25 files on a 720p50 hdmi output, so frame rate shouldn't be an issue. however I guess it has to do scaling because I've had to correct overscan in XBMC (the TV panel is rather dumb)
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<ssvb>
TheSeven: the display controller provides hardware overlays, which can handle scaling
<ssvb>
TheSeven: VLC just decodes video to such scaled hardware overlay
<ssvb>
TheSeven: XBMC tries to do something fancy with mali, so it is generally slower
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<TheSeven>
guess I'll have to compile VLC tonight then
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<libv>
does anyone have working mali binaries and the es2tri util installed?
<libv>
i just got "S0032: no default precision defined for variable" when trying to run es2tri over the lima mesa driver
<libv>
if you have es2gears, then you also have es2tri
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<oliv3r>
why can't I find a debian ati vpdau howto :(
<oliv3r>
libv: i really have to setup an SD card that does the whole 3D cedarX thing so I can test those things
<oliv3r>
libv: right now i have 2 mainline SD cards, which are like 5 mb used space :p and 1 with Fedora19 i think
<libv>
oliv3r: nm then
<libv>
just if anyone just has that setup handy and running :)
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<jemk>
woohoo, first h264 video decoded without vecore blobs
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<bfree>
jemk: congrats!
<jemk>
uh, and it also was the only one for now...
<jemk>
highly experimental...
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<oliv3r>
jemk: wow, that's heavy
<oliv3r>
anybody heard or knows of windows for A10?
<oliv3r>
we know a10 can boot wince, but are there drivers out? most notably GPS ones?
<Turl>
said and done, I got the postman notice :p
<oliv3r>
Turl: grats!
<Turl>
thx :)
<hno>
oliv3r, any idea what subcommands that would be?
<oliv3r>
hno: absolutly no idea :)
<oliv3r>
i just ran the the tutorial
<oliv3r>
i'll take a look at it when i find osme time
<hno>
oliv3r, you have to ask Allwinner on the wince question I think. Doubt anyone else knows, and wince licensing do not encourage sharing of knowledge.
<oliv3r>
well TJ from replicant says we could get more info for the GPS from the windows drivers
<oliv3r>
TJ is re-ing the GPS driver for the S3
<hno>
oliv3r, I think quite a bit of more info can be found in the Linux driver, with debug symbols and all..
<oliv3r>
true
<hno>
loading this into IDA Pro decompiler should produce almost readable C I think..
<oliv3r>
well no hardware makes it near impossible anyway
<hno>
It's nut much hardware missing to be honest.
<hno>
It's not..
<oliv3r>
yeah, but we can only guess how to connect what
<oliv3r>
not 1 single example or isntruction
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<hno>
pinout is known, and there is nothing strange. Standard interface for GPS radio.
<hno>
and I would suppose there is something in Allwinner android that can digest what interface gps.ko is providing to userspace if not standard.
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<mnemoc>
i blocks diagram i saw showed at external RF chip, like the PHY for ethernet
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<Turl>
hno: ida's hexrays costs an arm and a leg and is not sold to anyone
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<Turl>
xtofury: ftdi what? serial?
<Turl>
over usb?
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<arsonik>
Hi !
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<xtofury>
yes trying to figure out how to get an arduino to interface so I can get arduino commander from google play to work.
<xtofury>
oh and turl thanks for helping me with that touchscreen issue... but one weird thing is the dependencies are weird, make menuconfig begs for x64 libncurses-dev, whereas the make -j3 command in the base folder of the sdk wants libncurses:i386, is there any way to make em both happy without having to apt-get them all the time?
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<xtofury>
if I get through this all I need is to get through building an APK, I'll figure out kiosk mode later...
<xtofury>
the drivers I found do not seem to be for v3.x.x of the kernel :( And the java drivers seem to be a cheap hack that just won't work.
<xtofury>
I've thought of just using ttl but then I won't have snazzy arduino commander like interface to show ppl till the apk is done.
<Turl>
xtofury: there's ftdi drivers on the kernel
<Turl>
you should just figure out the right option and enable them
<Turl>
an easy way to do it would be getting an lsmod on your desktop before and after plugging the arduino and see what gets loaded
<xtofury>
ok I'll grab that and see if that gets me a little further, I know the device knows it is there, but it is not allowing arduino commander to detect the device (but there is a usb utility that I used that displayed it recognizing the device when plugged in)... so then this is an issue with android itself and I can leave the kernel alone? I was expecting to see the FTDI option in make
<xtofury>
menuconfig like it is for other linux distros.
<Turl>
xtofury: well I see CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO, but it might be a generic driver, I dunno
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<Turl>
xtofury: back to apt, I'm not on debian atm, but you should be able to keep both i386 and amd64 versions of ncurses installed
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<xtofury>
hmmmmm where's that because I thought I would find it under Device Drivers -> USB Support -> USB Serial Converter Support -> USB FTDI Single Port Serial Driver
<Turl>
xtofury: exactly therer
<Turl>
there*
<xtofury>
yeah not in this one, I get to USB Serial Converter Support and get an empty menu
<Turl>
xtofury: type / then type fdti and hit enter
<Turl>
ftdi sorry
<Turl>
check the depends on and make sure you have all what's needed
<xtofury>
USB_SERIAL=n
<Turl>
well, usb serial is the thing that gets you to the menu :)
<Turl>
check it before you go in
<xtofury>
oh man that was easy
<xtofury>
lol
<xtofury>
ok I got it here...
<xtofury>
that solves it, thanks turl...
<xtofury>
gunna run to a power outlet and compile this :)
<xtofury>
thanks again (that's 3 times you've bailed my n00by mistakes out).