<panda84kde>
arokux1: there are people who're working on it in #arm-netbook
<mnemoc>
nice
<panda84kde>
for sure hno which I see is here too
<arokux1>
thanks panda84kde
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<Seppoz>
so my olimex board and my cubieboard arrived today :))
<Seppoz>
looking forward turning em on
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<wickwire>
Hi guys, I'm trying to play video (VLC with libhybris) and overlay a graphical app over it
<wickwire>
so far, the video always runs on top
<wickwire>
and is using cedarfb
<wickwire>
according to the VLC sunxi guide
<wickwire>
is there any way I can define the overlay of the elements, between graphics and video?
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<arokux>
Seppoz, cool :)
<arokux>
Seppoz, what will you do with so many boards?
<lkcl_>
mnemoc: yep 1st batch have all arrived except for one where we were given the wrong address. oops...
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<arokux>
lkcl_, will there be a second batch, if so, what is the pricing? (btw, we had a preoders page, it was ignored?)
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<rings_IIV>
arokux, I designed an A10, A20 and currently working on an A31 board. I use Altium Designer to do my main design work. There are definite challenges based on language barrier but I was lucky to live in China for awhile and make some good friend that have help me along the way.
<rings_IIV>
I am working very closely with upverters
<arokux>
rings_IIV, thanks for the link to this website, very interesting!
<rings_IIV>
I have more but had to make it private because of trouble with BDD. We should be making it public again very soon
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<arokux>
rings_IIV, once you do send the announcement to arm-netbook and linux-sunxi mailing lists, please
<rings_IIV>
Yes we hope to be back to normal very soon
<arokux>
rings_IIV, how much time and people will does it take to produce such design?
<rings_IIV>
I do the design work with alot of help from Allwinner engineers.
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<rings_IIV>
I did the initial prototype in Canada but then switch to China
<mnemoc>
lkcl_: i definitively been away too long
<arokux>
rings_IIV, you went to China, to stay closer to Allwinner?
<rings_IIV>
No, I lived in China for a different project.
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<wingrime>
rings_IIV: there is any difficulties with impenace matching routing
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<rings_IIV>
Layout/routing was more of a challenge then the impedance matching.
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: I routed some small projects with altium, automatic route totaly crap
<rings_IIV>
I manually enter the impedance routing info based on specs from PCB company but then they fine tuned it once they have specific Er values
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: how much traces are done manualy, by hand?
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: I have no expiriance 4-layers PCB
<rings_IIV>
I do it all by hand
<rings_IIV>
SODIMM is a 6 layer board, Carrier board were SODIMM plugs into is 1-4 layer.
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: also, info from PCB , are you talking about electrial epsylon and loss tangant?
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<wingrime>
rings_IIV: better say Dielectric permittivity
<rings_IIV>
Sorry Er = Dielectric constant
<mnemoc>
iirc someone ranted that bdd's a10 sodimm used two different flat ribbon cables instead of using the same size on both
<mnemoc>
pushing costs higher
<mnemoc>
and not been able to connect a LiPo in UPSish way
<rings_IIV>
Ribbon cables is for legacy analog AV and LVDS
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: I can't play with 6-layer PCB - its all about price for prototyping its more than 100$ even with 4 layer
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: also how much revisions it cost?
<rings_IIV>
Yes, That is why we made the sodimm. We had many projects and need a fast prototyping method.
* mnemoc
loves so-dimm SoMs
<rings_IIV>
:-)
* wingrime
wingrime want supper computer board with 20 so-dimm on single board
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: I don't think it difficult place Gigabit switch on header board
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: a20 cluster
<rings_IIV>
We have a number of very competitive Prototype PCB companies we work with. 4 layer PCB approx $1 USD/sq inch
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: china have advantages
<rings_IIV>
Yes but need to be very careful. I learned many time about counterfiet components.
<rings_IIV>
When I was in China I even saw counterfeit can of compress air.
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: ))
<mnemoc>
fake air?
<rings_IIV>
hehe, yeah
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: your price include production preparament ?
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: and whan about electical check, with floating needles for example
<rings_IIV>
wingrime: Yes but we usually do 200 sq inches
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: batch
<rings_IIV>
wingrime: not panalize, all the same PCB, with E-Test
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: wow, thats only I can say
<rings_IIV>
wingrime: Pricing really starts to drop at 400 sq inches
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: realy cool
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: it realy not possible make something in russia with competentive pricement
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: also do yoy have idea about a20 clusters, that idea have any meaning ?
<rings_IIV>
wingrime: components?
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: no, make base board for 10-20 a20 and switch
<rings_IIV>
I could create an open source project on upverters.
<xtofury>
ok running into issues again.... cubieboard rev 1 specific, I followed the following instructions for it, here, http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps , I've gotten through the whole thing, but when I try to boot using the sd card, I just wind up back on my android desktop that is in the nanda. So I tried them again with the following HWpack, which gives me the same result.... cubieboard_hwpack.tar.xz
<xtofury>
(has all the files in there, I replaced the bootstrap and kernel with the stuff in there).
<Turl>
xtofury: try with another card
<wingrime>
rings_IIV: have no experiance with upverters
<xtofury>
it's a brand new card, my 16gb card had bad superblocks that prevented /dev/sde2 from mounting so I chucked it and bought a fresh 8gb card. now it mounts ok. I'm using a kingston uSD so it should be fine....I specifically made sure I wasn't picking up a cheap one (even though it was on sale).
<wigyori>
xtofury: it'll help if you tell which uboot are you using, and if you've dd-ed the spl and the u-boot binary correctly
<xtofury>
I am using the u-boot and spl from cubieboard_hwpack.tar.xz, I realized that i used the make command with cubieboard as the target platform but noticed on another page that it said to do it with cubieboard_config instead, so I figured I could have screwed up there and just used the alredy made spl and u-boot from that pack... here's the url for it: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/amery/s