<oliv3r>
mnemoc: did you see the new line up of allwiner SoC's
<mnemoc>
any info beside the 3 paragrahs article and a side picture of a presentation slide?
<oliv3r>
no :(
<oliv3r>
doesn't even mention the GPU's
<oliv3r>
just 1.7 x GPU
<oliv3r>
no clue vs what
<oliv3r>
but it looks like A6x MAY be the new a20
<mnemoc>
a guy in cubieboard said he had internal confirmation A80 has sata
<oliv3r>
well a80 -> a31 we belive so doesn't seem od
<mnemoc>
but it can be a new pvr + sata beast...
<mnemoc>
sun8i :/
<mnemoc>
it would be awesome they would stick winth sun[67]i for a while
<mnemoc>
not adding new sunNi's
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<oliv3r>
i think a23 isn't being released until q1 or q2 of 2014
<oliv3r>
so 'there is time'
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<mnemoc>
=)
<oliv3r>
now we just need more guys to help :)
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<mnemoc>
^^
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<cmdnoob>
hey there
<cmdnoob>
rm: it would be great if you could add the lines as example of how for example to start hostapd on the mele, otherwise the short tutorial is good for me and thx for the image :)
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<cmdnoob>
i have the default setup on the debian image and am trying to create an AP that is bridged to the ethernet
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<cmdnoob>
anyone here using the debian minimal image ?
<cmdnoob>
hmm, i never added the hardwarepack, is it possible to do that live with the running box ? i used the diskimager for windows so i couldn´t add the bootloader and before anything was working out of the box without the hwpack anyway
<cmdnoob>
i don´t think my wifi is even recognized without isn´t it ?
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<cmdnoob>
i guess it was not a good idea to put in the hw pack during runtime ? :P
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<Turl>
hipboi: hi
<hipboi>
Turl, hi
<Turl>
hipboi: cubieboard.org seems to be getting comment spam :(
<hipboi>
hmm...
<mnemoc>
wb hipboi
<cmdnoob>
i know i might get a bit annoying, but i try for a few hours to get the hostapd going in my mele a2000 with debian, do i have to load drivers or aren´t they in the hwpack, eth0 ran out of the box of course
<Turl>
cmdnoob: modprobe 8192cu
<cmdnoob>
that helped a little now the only error is
<cmdnoob>
thx, will read, i kind of thought that hostap would almost work out of the box in the new image
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<cmdnoob>
rm: do you know which driver i got to select for hostap ?
<cmdnoob>
i would guess since in the tutorial nothing was given in the hostapd.conf it would use the nl80211 driver
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<rm>
you may need a special hostapd
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<cmdnoob>
and my linux/debian skills are very limited, but that would be also a neat thing for your image if that would work out of the box, that was actually the feature that made me install the new image this morning
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<cmdnoob>
hmm there is a blacklist in the modprobe.d and there is a blacklist entry in the wifi.conf
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<wingrime>
oliv3r: glamour can egl
<n01>
blame oliv3r for what?
<wingrime>
ssvb: intel and radeon xf86 drivers can use glamour as backend, can we do it with blob
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<ssvb>
wingrime: in theory everything is possible, but in practice glamor is a toy driver at the moment (lots of bugs and very poor performance)
<wingrime>
ssvb: at least better then our's
<ssvb>
wingrime: how so?
<wingrime>
2d performance
<wingrime>
likd hdll :(
<wingrime>
*hell
<wingrime>
I hope mali can help somehow
<ssvb>
sure, the modern intel box with glamor might be faster than sunxi hardware for 2d graphics
<ssvb>
wingrime: what is your current setup and what is your primary use case for 2d graphics?
<wingrime>
ssvb: silent low end pc
<wingrime>
ssvb: when main powered off
<ssvb>
wingrime: I mean what is the screen resolution and color depths? what is the window manager? which application is slow?
<ssvb>
wingrime: and none of the graphics drivers are going to help much
<wingrime>
ssvb: yes, thats true
<wingrime>
ssvb: but hope still alive
<ssvb>
wingrime: still you can change the desktop color depth to 16bpp
<wingrime>
ssvb: even 600 Mhz celeron with win2k was faster on internal graphics
<Turl>
wingrime: on 1080p?
<ssvb>
wingrime: when driving the fullhd monitor?
<wingrime>
ssvb: 1024x768
<Turl>
wingrime: that requires way lower bw
<ssvb>
another *major* performance problem is the ondemand cpufreq governor, it just kills desktop interactivity
<wingrime>
ssvb: I always set performance and kernel build as default
<ssvb>
ok :)
<wingrime>
ssvb: also, front aliansing also disabled
<ssvb>
if some application runs abnormally slow, try to profile this case and report a bug
<wingrime>
ssvb: any web browser expect dillo
<ssvb>
fonts anti-aliasing should not be a performance problem, it has neon optimizations in place and the cpu still runs much faster than memory reads/writes
<ssvb>
wingrime: firefox runs fast enough here
<ssvb>
wingrime: are you browsing some specific web site when the browsers run slow?
<wingrime>
news.google
<wingrime>
ssvb: you have chrome book with cortex 15 , how much it faster?
<ssvb>
I'm not using the chromebook for running linux desktop
<Turl>
ssvb: chromeOS is gentoo++
<wingrime>
ssvb: cromebook can boot from mmc or something easy repaceable?
<ssvb>
wingrime: chromebook has a crappy sd slot, so that a half of the sd card stick out
<ssvb>
wingrime: and it has a crappy keyboard, which is missing a bunch of keys
<ssvb>
wingrime: and the bootloader used to be an awkward to use signed proprietary thing, but maybe this got better already
<wingrime>
but SCREEN
<ssvb>
wingrime: the 1366x768 screen is surely much easier to handle than the 1920x1080 monitor, which is choking your poor allwinner hardware :)
<wingrime>
)
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<techn_>
ssvb: how's those benchmarks with faster mbus?
<techn_>
is the still that huge performane drop o?
<techn_>
-o
<wingrime>
ssvb: yes, a20 somehow different
<wingrime>
ssvb: I can't get screen shake
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<ssvb>
techn_: the memory subsystem of a20 handles the fullhd resolution much better than a10
<ssvb>
techn_: but a20 has its own quirks (half-speed neon, weird prefetch which works for only a single data stream, much slower uncached reads if we ever hit them)
<techn_>
ssvb: great.. 1080p videos are possiple then
<techn_>
with cedarx
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<rm>
tried playing video on that A10 + USB DisplayLink today
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<rm>
no Xv, no hardware scaling
<rm>
so videos only play at 100% zoom (less also worked in smplayer)
<rm>
overall, surprisingly good
<rm>
SD flv and ogv
<ssvb>
VOB files from DVD disks should also play fine (with less than 50% cpu load at 1GHz)
<ssvb>
the 1GHz Cortex-A8 with NEON has enough processing power to have no problems with SD resolution videos and/or old codecs such as mpeg4/xvid
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<wingrime>
rm: xv works
<wingrime>
rm: resize also works by hw
<rm>
wingrime, I use USB DisplayLink DVI adapter, not sunxi's
<rm>
I should give sunxi graphics another go sometime
<rm>
1680x1050 and DPMS suspend are supposed to work now so it should be finally usable for me
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<kriegerod>
Hi, did anybody got hands on cubietruck prototype, or just knows something? I am interested if there is LVDS straight connectivity pins? Cubieboard 2 had this feature, and Truck has less pins and LVDS is not listed
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<oliv3r>
kriegerod: i got a cubietruck; but don't know the pinout
<kriegerod>
oliv3r: thanks for reply. But is that real that you get it without any docs?
<oliv3r>
yeap
<kriegerod>
while we're at it, does it work well overall?
<kriegerod>
sorry for offtop
<oliv3r>
well it seems to be fine
<oliv3r>
mine won't boot android though; might be power issue; the android logo keeps spinning
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<N00bpinguim>
I compiled easycap / stk1160 driver from sunxi source for my sunxi-crane tablet but I'm getting lots of "symbol unknown" errors trying to insmod it
<N00bpinguim>
I tried to insmod the drivers related to the missing symbols but also get other symbol unknown and duplicate symbol owned by kernel trying to insmod videodev.ko
<N00bpinguim>
only got videobuf-vmalloc.ko to load correctly
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<popolon>
you probably have the module hard-linked in your kernel ?
<N00bpinguim>
I just ran the make sun4i_crane_defconfig to get the default config and then chose the modules I wanted, this worked with hid, dvb-t and other devices without changing the tablets kernel, just insmodding the additional .ko files.
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<N00bpinguim>
maybe since some parts of V4L are already hardlinked in the tablet's kernel I can't add the "missing" parts through modules without reinstalling the whole kernel image?
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<popolon>
maybe ?
<popolon>
if you do that, think to backup your working kernel
<N00bpinguim>
Have to get a way of booting from sd card to test it...