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<auxym>
So... I'
<auxym>
So... I'm trying to boot the latest 4.4 rc2 kernel on an A10 (mini-x aka pineriver h24). Bunch of [FAILED] and [DEPEND] messages are scrolling too fast to read. Any ideas?
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<auxym>
wait... those red/yellow [FAILED] and [DEPEND] are systemd right? If so does that mean my kernel is ok and something is wrong with my rootfs?
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<wens>
montjoie: congrats
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<auxym>
heh. zapped the suse rootfs and put stretch on there. bam, login prompt
<auxym>
this place is quieter than I remember though :\
<wens>
auxym: most people are in europe or NA timezones
<wens>
mostly europe iirc
<auxym>
ah, makes sense
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<plaes>
hum..something flaky with wiki?
<plaes>
disk full again?
<plaes>
Warning: Unknown: write failed: No space left on device (28) in Unknown on line 0
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<wens>
root is full
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<rellla>
GeneralStupid: no. and it won't get support for cedarx.
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<rellla>
at least not from these people here imho. the way to go would be to add a cedrus based decoder into kodi, if you are interested... but i don't know if this makes sense until the basic bits went into mainline.
<mripard>
and it's probably going to be the same than for the A13 / R8, A33 / R16
<plaes>
well, they might release two different boards
<mripard>
just a revamp of the SoC
<wens>
A83 / H8 / R58......
<wens>
how many models do you need
<OpenBlyat>
does allwinner have any plans for any new chips that support SATA?
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
enough one. fully working
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
OpenBlyat: hm... russian?
<mripard>
wens: I'm guessing it just doesn't have the same power consumption and / or temperature range
<plaes>
JohnDoe_71Rus: sounds like that :)
<wens>
mripard: at least they could give us some hints about what's different :|
<plaes>
btw, I saw some linaro.org guys that touched sunxi code in the linux-arm mailinglist..
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<mripard>
wens: they probably do if you're a customer :)
<mripard>
plaes: do you have a link to that?
* plaes
searches...
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<wens>
plaes: doesn't ring a bell
<plaes>
IIRC, it was simple fix :P
<plaes>
nevermind.. it was Mathiue Poirier responding to mripard's coupled regulator patch :(
<wens>
btw, sam from cubietech was nice enough to answer my axp809 questions, even testing their boards
<plaes>
\o/
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<JohnDoe_71Rus>
looks like cubietech don't want support kitkat versions to cubieboard. drop cubieboard1/2 to the market and support to community :(
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<libv>
plaes: yea, full disk again
<libv>
apt-get cleaned.
<libv>
cleaning out old kernels
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<wens>
iirc there should be some auto clean setting
<libv>
there is none
<libv>
just cron scripts
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
remove old packages
<libv>
we need to do two things: 1) make our rootfs at least 4x as large 2) have a script run once a day to check for stale versions of the kernel
<libv>
JohnDoe_71Rus: kernels are kept, and they each eat around 250MB
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<JohnDoe_71Rus>
after install new kernel server reboot?
<libv>
JohnDoe_71Rus: then the older kernel binaries are still kept
<libv>
i will try to script it up tonight, and hope to have it send me, turl, mnemoc emails, to see that it does the right thing
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
yep. then only script remove kernel, stay only last two
<libv>
fyi: khgoh mailed the 4 chinese volunteers
<wens>
libv: the top of /etc/cron.daily/apt shows a bunch of possible settings
<wens>
what 4 chinese volunteers?
<libv>
wens: my googling a few months ago turned up nothing debian supported, just people with their own cron scripts
<libv>
wens: you're one :p
<libv>
the 4 people i told khgoh to contact
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<libv>
he stated that about 20 devices will be made available when production starts in february
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<Strontium>
I have gone over the datasheets for the A13 and R8, and as far as electrically is concerned they seem identical. Would love it if anyone knew otherwise. The ONLY difference between the two seems to be the markings on the chip.
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<libv>
seems like the olimex laptop blog entry now got some more traction :)
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<rds_>
Jemk: congrats you've got vdpau working on H3!
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<rds_>
any plans to get the encoder demo also working ?
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<jemk>
rds_: thx, no plans for encoder currently, i don't need the encoder
<rds_>
yeah!, no big deal!
<rds_>
I read you may concentrate on V4L2, and I concluded it would be the encoder! but, just a wrong guess!
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<jemk>
v4l2 could get encoding capabilities too, but not with very high priority.
<jemk>
but it will aim at the older socs first anyway
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<rds_>
I think when cedarX ( cedrus ) is totally open source, via your work, AW socs gets a lot more success, since media is what drive sells of these things, even though AW is blinded about this.
<GeneralStupid>
i think i would sell my orangepi and get a raspberry pi
<GeneralStupid>
no, thank you. No allwinner crap again.
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<rds_>
maybe AW socs will finally have decent software in 2016, when I think the mainline team is going to deliver somewhat good SW, starting with CHIP that will get 4.X kernel
<mripard>
rds_: because it wasn't good before ? ;)
<rds_>
it has been getting better, due to this community work!
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<rds_>
you are a great contributor for its improvement!
<rds_>
but, look at the kernel released with the new SOCs!
<rds_>
I would say A20 has decent support, but H3 will take while to reach that level!
<GeneralStupid>
I need to become an Android developer to get my usb wifi working
<GeneralStupid>
so, i can buy another usb wifi or just stop that waste of time and buy a raspberry pi
<rds_>
as one example, look at all over heat problems with the H3, and this community finds that the SOC is just fine, only badly configured the SW released by the vendors
<GeneralStupid>
the allwinner software is crappy...
<rds_>
people say the R-pi h/w is crapy, but the joy of buying your little toy, power on and it works, is a major thing for the geeks that buy this stuff
<mripard>
rds_: it's never been bad, it was missing then :)
<rds_>
and that is why R-pi excels AW based products
<mripard>
but yeah, allwinner BSP is terrible
<mripard>
but the H3 is only going to take a while because only jemk, hans and wens have been working on it so far
<plaes>
there's also the "lack" of choice ;)
<rds_>
when you buy a toy like OPI-PC, power on and Eth does not work, you plug 2 to 4 wi-fi dongles and nothing, it cool down the geek!
<plaes>
with allwinner you have A10, A13, A20, A33...A80, A83T, H3...
<plaes>
and with each soc you also have multiple boards
<rds_>
guys, you are the savers for AW blindness!
<plaes>
no wonder, there's no consistency
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<rds_>
AW can't even be consistent with the naming of their SOCs
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<jemk>
mripard: speeking of h3 mainline, how can i finish the bus gates?
<wens>
weren't we waiting for arnd's reply?
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<rgwan-phone>
Who knows that what is SLC mode in SUNXI-MTD?
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<arnd>
wens: I'm not aware of any email thread I need to reply to. any specific subject I should look at?
<arnd>
rgwan-phone: single-level-cell flash? Most flash these days is multi-level-cell (MLC or TLC), so unless you have SLC hardware you don't care?
<rgwan-phone>
No. I just want to know what is SLC mode in mtd-sunxi driver
<rgwan-phone>
because that the CHIP minicomputer uses the mtd-sunxi driver with intergrated MLC-NAND flash
<rgwan-phone>
I ”m curious about a expression on uboot script:SLC mode
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<mripard>
rgwan-phone: we're switching the MLC NAND in SLC mode
<mripard>
because the MLC NANDs have a huge deal of issues that are not currently handled by Linux, and could result in data loss.
<rgwan-phone>
Which means....? Only use half capacity of the MLC”s?
<mripard>
jemk, arnd: for the record, the clock maintainers seems to be willing to push more things into the clock driver, and less and less in the DT, see http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-clk/msg04652.html
<rgwan-phone>
I want to help for MLC flashes....
<rgwan-phone>
The SLC mode is a pretty ugly solution
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<mripard>
rgwan-phone: no, it's not.
<rgwan-phone>
why
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<mripard>
because it's something supported by the NAND chips that is reliable, and supported easily in software?
<mripard>
let's turn it the other way around
<mripard>
why is it ugly ?
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<rgwan-phone>
Oh...I see
<rgwan-phone>
I just want to use more capacity that nand chips supported
<rgwan-phone>
But I dont know why other SOC can support MLC reliabliy
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<wens>
does mtd/nand/ubifs need a lot more work for MLC?
<wens>
s/does/doesn't/
<rgwan-phone>
maybe I should to find out
<mripard>
rgwan-phone: they don't.
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<rgwan-phone>
and rework some stuff to make MLC mode stable
<mripard>
wens: and yes, it does
<arnd>
mripard: I just realized that the list is for the "clock-indices" property, not for the xlate function
<arnd>
I think it's fine then
<mripard>
wens: the controller can't do anything about it, it's MTD / UBI that need to deal with this
<wens>
bbrezillon seems to be working hard on it, and overhauling the mtd/nand subsystem in general
<wens>
mripard: i know, i was at the talk :)
<mripard>
wens: bbrezillon has been working on this for the last few monthes, so there's some progress, but there's still a long way
<mripard>
arnd: ok, cool :)
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<libv>
so now clock-output-names is being deprecated? So they will have to be referred to with bit offsets?
<libv>
that smells like a step backwards
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<mripard>
libv: clock-output-names is not involved in the clock lookup, or at least it's not when you're using DT
<mripard>
so, no, it doesn't smell like anything.
<libv>
well, it does clean-up the duplicity that i whined about in august 2014
<rgwan-phone>
mripard: so maybe I should to take a look at UBI/MTD level
<rgwan-phone>
and try to work out a solution...
<rgwan-phone>
Is it a linux”s general issue?
<plaes>
mripard: when does the merge window close?
<plaes>
I'm kinda tempted to hijack hansg's sun4i_codec external power thread.. :S
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<mripard>
rgwan-phone: yes, it's a linux general issue, and it's being worked on
<mripard>
libv: if you say so
<mripard>
plaes: around -rc5 / -rc6 for the DT bits
<mripard>
plaes: a bit later for other subsystems
<rgwan-phone>
sunxi-nand ftl driver solve that thing but not in proper way
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<flok420>
I'm a bit puzzled: my banana pi m2 has a (mounted!) /boot partition that is empty. no fex, no uimage, nothing. still it boots fine...?
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<Inode>
as a test, i commented out the test of head->version[0] and recompiled and ran sunxi-fexc again to convert the script.bin to a fex file... and the output appears to be consistent for the most part with other A33 fex files in https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards/tree/master/sys_config/a33
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