<gzamboni>
if you or anyone with permissions can create a A64 dir on top of dl and mv the files, i dont have sudo permissions on the server
<raknaz>
gzamboni, do u know any users working on iteaduino a10?
<raknaz>
i m new to this channel
<gzamboni>
humm, let me check who did send the dts patches
<gzamboni>
iteaduino 10 it was Josef Gajdusek but i dont think he is in the channel, i dunno who is he
<gzamboni>
itead ibox it was codekipper, hes in the channel, but tell me your problem i or anyone may help you
<gzamboni>
read the topic, dont ask if you can ask it, just ask it and wait
<gzamboni>
you have a lot of info in the wiki also, have you checked it already ?
<raknaz>
thanks. i have trouble finding the itead os link in iteadstudio site and sunxi-linux . All of the links seem to be either missing or dead. if there is any way for getting the iteados for 10, it would be helpful
<raknaz>
i have gone through the wiki
<KotCzarny>
gzamboni: do you know if i have to use banana specific mkimage (to recreate boot.cmd) or i can grab x86 generic one?
<gzamboni>
you have to do your own based on your needs
<KotCzarny>
gzamboni, im trying to find out why igor's image for my lamobo-r1 isnt booting, and want to try different boot params
<raknaz>
gzamboni: yes i have checked all possible sites before, https://www.itead.cc/, http://wiki.iteadstudio.com and sunxi-linux site, there are images for a20 but none of them are avilable for a10, a couple of months before i saw the links in sunxi-linux , now its it seems deleted.
<gzamboni>
afaik you can either set it as env variables at the boot console and save it, you can use uEnv.txt or boot.cmd with all the uboot configurations
<KotCzarny>
gzamboni, yes, but to recreate it i have to use x86, because box itself isnt booting
<Ueno_Otoko_>
considering the amount of info avaliable, it would be easy to build your own image
<gzamboni>
people are starting using A20 instead of A10, same pinout, more powerfull double core and less power consumtion
<KotCzarny>
that's why i asked if boot.cmd and mkimage have anything special patched in
<gzamboni>
about same price
<gzamboni>
KotCzarny, you can use mkimage -C none -A arm -T script -d boot_hdmi.cmd boot.scr in a x86 machine
<gzamboni>
its arch indepandent , mkimage only convert it to binary afaik
<gzamboni>
it doesnt compile
<KotCzarny>
k, thx
<gzamboni>
oh, using the -A arm parameter
<gzamboni>
so it should be arch dependent, sorry
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<raknaz>
yeah, i had been using a10 for long, until i deleted the os from my sd and pc hoping that it would be available in web. but i couldnt find any. the name of the image file i had in my pc was iteados-A10-debian-xfce-2.0.4-2014-05-13.img
<gzamboni>
which os do you want ?
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<raknaz>
iteados for 10, a debian fork
<gzamboni>
thoses os images come with u-boot, kernel and os all in one image ?
<Ueno_Otoko_>
with those images you can easily add your own debian rootfs
<gzamboni>
raknaz, you will have to ask itead for it, email them. or you can do your own image, there are several howtos on the wiki
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<raknaz>
gzamboni: the sunflower link is dead and there are links of iteados for a20 only on the page. i mailed itead it and havnt received any reply. could u provide me a start on hou to build my own image or share with me any necessary links for building?
<gzamboni>
you want the mainline's kernel or the fork 's one?
<KotCzarny>
i guess he just wants his device to boot
<bertrik>
oh, I was under the impression that this device already worked with u-boot and sunxi
<libv>
does it?
<libv>
then hansg or mripard must own the hw and did not bother to document it to help potential users
<libv>
bertrik: then you have an even easier time documenting it though
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<bertrik>
libv: I'm working with the devkit from hansg right now :) but he's not here
<bertrik>
this thing has like 4 different sd card slots
<flok420>
you should use the right slot
<flok420>
that helps
<KotCzarny>
hmm, a20 gmac is said to be merged into 3.15, yet it's not in the 4.4-rc4 ?
<bertrik>
I think I should find more info about the board itself, like a schematic, or a manual
<wens>
bertrik: schematics are probably hard to come by
<wens>
iirc they are designed by merrii, you might want to mail them?
<libv>
bertrik: still, try to do what hansg for some reason refuses to do, and help yourself and others who will come after you
<libv>
document the device
<libv>
since the data has already been retrieved, it is actually quite easy
<bertrik>
my main goal for today with this device is making sure the touchscreen controller stuff I'm working on, works on this board too
<libv>
bertrik: suit yourself, but do not come crying when you next time run into a badly documented sunxi device
<bertrik>
but if this thing is hard to setup, I think I'll skip it and move on to the next device with the same touchscreen controller
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<wens>
KotCzarny: what device are you using?
<KotCzarny>
wens: lamobo r1
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<bertrik>
libv: I'm not crying, just inquiring if someone here knows more about it
<wens>
KotCzarny: the switch chip is not supported on mainline
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<KotCzarny>
wens, pity, any work being done on it?
<wens>
KotCzarny: someone did try to submit it, but iirc it needed a lot of work
<KotCzarny>
otoh, is it possible to backport audio from 4.4 to 4.2?
<KotCzarny>
(a20)
<wens>
backport, as in you applying the patches over 4.2?
<KotCzarny>
bacport, as in having audio in 4.2 on that board
<wens>
yeah, but whose 4.2 tree?
<wens>
afaik there's a lot happening in each release
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<KotCzarny>
im not sure, armbian's igor's one should be enough
<wens>
4.3 changed the clock bits in the dts, so that's a bit of effort to backport, but you can
<wens>
other than that, it's just the audio clocks and the codec driver
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<KotCzarny>
on another note, how is it possible that my box refuses to boot uboot from 1 and 2GB cards but works with 8G one, what could be the problem?
<wens>
u-boot fails to load?
<KotCzarny>
somehow. with working one i get uboot console on hdmi, but blank screen on the failing ones
<KotCzarny>
(same source image)
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<wens>
any messages on serial console?
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<KotCzarny>
i dont have serial cable (yet)
<wens>
afaik there've be known issues with some sd cards, though no one looked into it more
<wens>
easier just to get a new one i guess
<KotCzarny>
heh
<KotCzarny>
lottery then
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<wens>
otoh, i really suggest using the latest kernel
<wens>
a whole bunch of stuff goes in every release, it's hard to backport stuff
<KotCzarny>
that's what i'm trying
<wens>
(and some improvements aren't even by us)
<wens>
for example, there's a gmac improvement series on net-dev
<KotCzarny>
but if gmac isnt mainlined the box is useless
<KotCzarny>
(or the switch support)
<KotCzarny>
s/useless/useless without patching/
<wens>
well, support comes from people working on it :)
<KotCzarny>
yes, and it sucks that cheap devices are usually closed hardware, and open ones are hellishly expensive
<KotCzarny>
this lamobo-r1 could be my dream home device (switch/router, audio, sata, dual core, no fans, ~2-5W of total power usage)
<wens>
there are patches for the switch on github (google bcm53125 + linux)
<GeneralStupid>
either the diagram is not correct or there is no SATA Controller on the SoC
<KotCzarny>
if it was connected via usb it would have to be visible in lsusb, wouldn't it?
<GeneralStupid>
KotCzarny: of course, but it is not?
<KotCzarny>
nope
<GeneralStupid>
http://linux-sunxi.org/SATA KotCzarny i just read this, looks like a really usefull performance
<GeneralStupid>
iam using two external USB drives in software raid 1 - and its a bit slow...
<KotCzarny>
GeneralStupid: also, it supports pmp (port multipliers) which is nice (not helping much with performance but one can add more storage)
<GeneralStupid>
KotCzarny: its a nice thing. would be enough performance for me, i guess iam happy if i write 2 Mb/s
<KotCzarny>
yes, i was considering those newer boxes based on a83, but they dont have real sata, and their usb3 is so lousy, that it's actually worse than usb2
<GeneralStupid>
KotCzarny: i guess kernel 3.4 is the best you can go with that allwinnser devices. But in 3.4 USB 3 is still experimental... so
<KotCzarny>
GeneralStupid: armbian/bananian do 4.2.x, but it lacks audio (which is in 4.4 i think), so i just hope they will catch up, till then i will try patching or just stick to 3.4.x for some time
<KotCzarny>
still, that lamobo-r1 draws ~3-5W, my gigabit switch draws similar amount, now to add home nas, some linux box etc it all adds to tens of W. yet, i can replace it with one box
<KotCzarny>
relatively cheap one too
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<plaes>
KotCzarny: do you realize that you still have to patch your device's devicetree in order to get audio
<plaes>
unless someone has already done it
<KotCzarny>
plaes, huh? what does 'included in mainline' mean then? unless you mean that not all a20 implementations are the same audio wise (i need only analog jack support)
<plaes>
yeah, but every device has its own device tree file
<KotCzarny>
hmm, from generalstupid pasted this is interesting: Always keep in mind that all SATA implementations on sunxi devices rely on internal SATA connectors. Unlike eSATA these connectors are specified for only 50 matings and cheap cables/connectors die way earlier or start to corrupt data
<KotCzarny>
seriously, 50?
<plaes>
yeah
<plaes>
how often do you remove the hdd from your PC?
<KotCzarny>
plaes: i'm new to sunxi based devices, so i'm still learning the differences from x86 world
<KotCzarny>
plaes: if i'm doing backups or device testing, or upgrades, i guess 50 is still very low number
<plaes>
yeah, but those connectors were not designed for that :(