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<eagles0513875>
hey guys
<eagles0513875>
quick question is the pine64 board an all winner based SOC
<adj_>
eagles0513875, it seems to be allwinner r18
<eagles0513875>
adj_: thanks
<adj_>
but should be them who makes clear what soc it uses
<eagles0513875>
adj_: ok reason im asking is that i have a friend who has ordered one and he wants to know how to get things installed on it
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<eagles0513875>
adj_: any chance you can link RonWhoCares to a guide on how to get things going in terms of booting with the pine64?
<adj_>
eagles0513875, don't expect a lot of support when the device is released
<eagles0513875>
adj_: why do you say that?
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: why do you want the pine 64?
<adj_>
there is not even a page about the r18 in linux-sunxi
<eagles0513875>
got it :)
<adj_>
eagles0513875, do you know what hardware has the r18 inside?
<eagles0513875>
adj_: no this is the first im hearing of it
<RonWhoCares>
eagles0513875 Remember the comments I made about my health? I am trying to avoid the utilities in my home from being disconnected and then going bankrupt. But I need a separate computer for video editing / rendering. With serious financial constraints this is the most practical answer.
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: understood but with this device what adj_ is saying is its a really new processor alot of embedded systems are still 32bit in terms of ARM based cpu's
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: what kind of budget are you talking about for such a device?
<adj_>
my advice is to buy a system with a known good support
<eagles0513875>
adj_: was about to suggest the raspberry pi2
<adj_>
for allwinner, probably a system based on A20 is a more secure bet
<eagles0513875>
ya then adj_ a cubieboard 2 as that is what I have
<RonWhoCares>
'Pine 64' is 64 bit based
<eagles0513875>
adj_: i still cant wrap my head around the complexity of getting a linux distro setup on it
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: whats the advantage of 64bit
<eagles0513875>
these embedded systems 64bit is still super new
<RonWhoCares>
eagles0513875 It is suppose to increase performance
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: on a normal pc has it really improved performance?
<RonWhoCares>
I've had better experience with 64 bit systems
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: in terms of embedded systems its the other way around actually
<eagles0513875>
you will spend more time getting things working and getting the kernel patched etc for it to work with that processor
<RonWhoCares>
I've already mail ordered a 256 gig microsd card
<RonWhoCares>
256 gig is the maximum size the pine 64 runs on
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: actually thats super nice
<eagles0513875>
do you know how to code?
<RonWhoCares>
Yes I do. PHP , pgSQL and Zend Framework
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: you will need to learn c/c++ to do some kernel hacking to get things working for that chip
<RonWhoCares>
eagles0513875 I can't put the time into this
<eagles0513875>
what we are trying to say out of the box at this stage with 64bit embedded systems they are not common
<RonWhoCares>
eagles0513875 I was originally on #lubuntu (where I met phillw)
<RonWhoCares>
The FAQ for this computer says this operating system is suport
<eagles0513875>
RonWhoCares: you wont know until you give it a try
<adj_>
RonWhoCares, I don't understand you. You said that you had financial constraints
<RonWhoCares>
I watched a 'Youtube' video showing a demo unit showing Ubuntu
<adj_>
but you are talking about a device that is actually in crowdfunding campaign
<adj_>
and you already bought an expensive sdcard for it...
<RonWhoCares>
adj_: There is a lot going on in my life
<adj_>
the cheapest 256GB sd card on newegg is 75$, and the others 125$+
<adj_>
7.5 sound as scam
<eagles0513875>
adj_: dont underestimate ebay
<eagles0513875>
i bought a 400 dollar handbag for my sister for xmas for around 83GBP off ebay and that is including shipping
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<adj_>
I doubt that the cost of flash dies are less than 0.03$ per GB
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<eagles0513875>
adj_: what im trying to say is you can find some real steals on ebay
<adj_>
I hope that you are right
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<eagles0513875>
adj_: if RonWhoCares paid with paypal he has his back side protected
<eagles0513875>
i had ordered a 64gb iphone 5s and the guy never sent it even after I paid
<eagles0513875>
paypal after waiting 3 weeks to hear back from him why the item wasnt shipped etc gave me my money back
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<azend|vps>
Hi
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<silviop>
Hi, my ask: Tablet q8 A13 compatible, Uboot start with working lcd and backlight, after p 2 second pause start kernel,then backlight switch off, but i can see with a flashlight kernel boot text scrolling so lcd is ok but backlight is switched off, uboot and kernel are mainline versione (2016 rc2 and 4.x).I try to set default-.brightness-level =<100> in sun5i-q8-common.dtsi but no change.In my original fex lcd is enabled by
<silviop>
AXP-0. Where can check that all gpio/pwm default are right for kernel?
<wens>
silviop: the default brightness level is an index into the brightness level array, not a percentage or absolute value
<silviop>
ok default is 8 but the backlight switch off
<silviop>
8 means 80 in index
<silviop>
now i'm tryng to remoce AXP20X driver from kernel to see if GPIOX is setting wrong
<wens>
mainline kernel does not support the GPIO pins for the AXP
<wens>
iirc the dts file even has a comment about this
<silviop>
ok but not support and initialize AXP20X wrong may be has the same effect on my tablet
<silviop>
fedora with kernel old sunxi 3.4 work well
<silviop>
4.4.0-rc5 not
<wens>
thats because while gpio are not supported, the regulators on the gpio 0/1 pins are, and they are switched off if not used
<wens>
which also either pulls that pin low, or leaves it floating
<wens>
either way, your backlight will go dark.
<silviop>
so uboot drive axp209 correctly enabling them , and kernel reset AXP209 ?
<wens>
for those particular pins, yes
<silviop>
make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- sunxi_defconfig by default not select AXP20X under driver->power devices (i'm following official guide)
<wens>
it's not that issue. as i said, the axp20x regulator driver supports gpio_ldo[01], which are on gpio[01]
<wens>
if these regulators aren't used, they are turned off by the kernel
<silviop>
what means "by kernel" ? i'm searching where i2c comunnication with these specific registers is done...
<wens>
the regulator core turns off all unused regulator during lateinit
<wens>
see drivers/regulator/core.c
<wens>
and drivers/regulator/axp20x-regulator.c
<silviop>
Ok i will try to recompile without support for AXP20X in any form , so kernel cannot know AXP209 and should left in the state configured by uboot
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<SadSmile>
hey, when setting IRQ's on a A20 device, should I set both SATA and ETH= IRQ's to the same CPU i.e. CPU1 or should I use different CPU cores i.e. eth=CPU0, sata=cpu1?
<SadSmile>
s/ETH=/eth0/
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<KotCzarny>
lol, 7.5usd for 256GB
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<KotCzarny>
RonWhoCares: first, if you want cheap AND reliable storage, you cant rely on cheapest sd card you find (especially nonae). if used as rootfs without any tricks to minimize writes, it will be dead very quick. also, a20 has (relatively) a lot of power for running home linux distro and sata storage is next to free usually
<KotCzarny>
s/nonae/noname/
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<arete74>
xtraeme: plan for gcc 5
<arete74>
bad windws
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<silviop>
wens: are you there ?
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<silviop>
wens: I disabled pwm support and now backlight stay on , there is a bug in pwm support or in q8 dtsi
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<zoobab>
hi
<silviop>
wens: not AXP209 GPIO support.
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<wens>
vishnup: hey, so i took the heatsink off my a83, and it says H8...
<wens>
:/
<KotCzarny>
doesn't that mean you have 4 high speed cores instead of 8 slower ones?
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<plaes>
wens, what? :D
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<jelly>
H8 is a rather unfortunate name for English-speaking people
<KotCzarny>
only a problem for marketing department
<KotCzarny>
H8T would be a bit worse
<KotCzarny>
H8T3 ?
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<tkaiser>
wens: SinoVoip produced a few batches of Banana Pi M3 with A83T/H8 (the same) and R58 (according to them somewhat different but also pin-compatible)
<jelle>
I was just looking akwardly at my bananapi
<jelle>
wens: didn't you have the orange pi pc up and booting btw?
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<philippe_fouquet>
Hi
<philippe_fouquet>
I read on olimex blog that it could be have a next generation for A20 wiht a quad core, Have you some news?
<KotCzarny>
nope
<KotCzarny>
it was accidental leak
<KotCzarny>
and nothing more
<philippe_fouquet>
ok thank
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<philippe_fouquet>
an other question is it existe a livesuite but for a masse production (that work under commande line linux shell)
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<philippe_fouquet>
and my last thing : LiveSuite don't work any more under Mac os x elcaptain
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<tkaiser>
philippe_fouquet: That's what VirtualBox is for ;)
<philippe_fouquet>
tkaiser: that I use but is not use full
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<wens>
jelle: i did, but it's not connected to my farm atm
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<wens>
vishnup: i slowly twisted it
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<wens>
tkaiser: i'm waiting for a case to go with it
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<tkaiser>
wens: Which/what case?
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<tkaiser>
BTW: Tested today with Orange Pi PC again with 2nd UAS capable disk: 78 MB/s when accessing disks in parallel and only 60% CPU utilisation.
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<GeneralStupid>
ok i have got a strange issue, maybe you have an idea to fix it. Sometimes my USB Port comes up as 1.1 and my usb 2.0 device does not work... then i have to unplug it into the other port... Orangepi PI
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<KotCzarny>
GeneralStupid: how do you know its usb1.1? maybe it's the device that is quirky