Turl changed the topic of #linux-sunxi to: Allwinner/sunxi /development discussion - did you try looking at our wiki? https://linux-sunxi.org - Don't ask to ask. Just ask and wait! - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/ - Logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi
bwarff has joined #linux-sunxi
hulu1522 has joined #linux-sunxi
<tkaiser> PaddyF: Thx for the feedback. In case you run into poblems please report in the Armbian forum (most if not all Armbian devs use their devices headless so feedback is highly appreaciated)
<PaddyF> okay, great
<PaddyF> even the xorg.conf suits my needs
<tkaiser> PaddyF: Since this is a pre-release could you please do an 'sudo armbianmonitor -u' and provide the support URL? Just to double check if board auto detection works
<PaddyF> tkaiser: http://sprunge.us/aeCP
yann|work has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
<tkaiser> Thx, everything's fine :)
* PaddyF smiles happily
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
ricardocrudo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
jstein_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
tkaiser has quit [Quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com]
formruga has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
Keziolio has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
viccuad has left #linux-sunxi ["WeeChat 1.4"]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
Keziolio has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
TheSeven has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
TheSeven has joined #linux-sunxi
<TheLinuxBug> nice already overheated my odroid c2 running a make modules :X
<TheLinuxBug> got a fun kernel panic
<PaddyF> amazing how some people can read sense in such text
ninolein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
ninolein has joined #linux-sunxi
egbert has quit [Disconnected by services]
egbert has joined #linux-sunxi
mpmctoo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
cnxsoft has joined #linux-sunxi
Andy-D has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
hipboi has joined #linux-sunxi
Andy-D has joined #linux-sunxi
hipboi has quit [Client Quit]
Andy-D has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
hulu1522_ has joined #linux-sunxi
hulu1522 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
Andy-D has joined #linux-sunxi
atsampso1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
atsampson has joined #linux-sunxi
vagrantc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
huawei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Shirasaka-Hazumi has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
hulu1522_ has quit []
robogoat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
AA78 has joined #linux-sunxi
<AA78> hey longsleep
JohnDoe_71Rus has joined #linux-sunxi
<AA78> whenever you got a moment mate I would like to discuss helping out with the pine64
IgorPec7 has joined #linux-sunxi
phil42 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
<AA78> msg when you are around
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
cosm has joined #linux-sunxi
cnxsoft has quit [Quit: cnxsoft]
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
AA78 is now known as help
help is now known as Guest40997
Guest40997 is now known as AA78
cnxsoft has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
AA78 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
AA781 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
AA781 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
IgorPec7 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
AA781 has joined #linux-sunxi
cnxsoft has quit [Quit: cnxsoft]
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
phil42 has joined #linux-sunxi
<steev> PaddyF: well there's usually more than just that
cnxsoft has joined #linux-sunxi
<ordex> wigyori: any clue why I can't find r8188eu.ko anywhere although I have selected it in the menuconfig of openwrt ?
<ordex> wigyori: it looks like the source files gets compiled (I can see the .o files in the module foler) bu no .ko is produced
<steev> that's pretty impressive that you were able to overheat yours; i run gentoo on 2 of them without issue compiling everything but chromium and llvm
<ordex> wigyori: mh maybe it's built in :P
<KotCzarny> ordex, or included in some other .ko
<KotCzarny> one module to drive them all
<ordex> KotCzarny: nope, it is supposed to come as standalone module
<KotCzarny> try running make modules again then
IgorPec7 has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> maybe there was some error?
<KotCzarny> you can also try touching the .c file before
<KotCzarny> or even make V=1 modules
<ordex> KotCzarny: I am crosscompiling inside the openwrt environment - doing a make V=1 modules is not the easiest thing :D
<ordex> but the .o is created, so it gets compiled
<ordex> btw i just checked the .config and it was really =y
<ordex> so built-in
cosm has quit [Quit: Leaving]
IgorPec7 has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
cnxsoft has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
cnxsoft has joined #linux-sunxi
vagrantc has joined #linux-sunxi
vagrantc has quit [Quit: leaving]
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
mossroy has joined #linux-sunxi
<wigyori> ordex: have to check, no idea at the moment :)
<wigyori> i'm out in london until tuesday, but will check when i get half an hour :)
<ordex> wigyori: I can confirm, it gets compiled as built-in ;)
<ordex> so it's working :) thanks anyway ! and enjoy london :)
<wigyori> great, thanks :)
lemonzest has joined #linux-sunxi
Nacho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
honx_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
honx has joined #linux-sunxi
Keziolio has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
Nacho has joined #linux-sunxi
Keziolio has joined #linux-sunxi
fredy has quit [Excess Flood]
iamfrankenstein1 has joined #linux-sunxi
fredy has joined #linux-sunxi
iamfrankenstein has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
iamfrankenstein1 is now known as iamfrankenstein
poffs has joined #linux-sunxi
<poffs> hey is the m3 1ghz, 1.8ghz, or 2ghz? i've seen it listed as all three
<plaes> does it matter? :)
<KotCzarny> m3 is unsupported, so it doesnt matter
<KotCzarny> which is a pity, because octacore would be sweet
<poffs> unsupported?
<KotCzarny> Sunxi support : Unsupported
<KotCzarny> Planned for 4.6 : Initial bringup , timer, watchdog and reboot
<poffs> so what does this mean? it'll boot, but no kernel upgrades?
<KotCzarny> it means the only support you will get from manufacturer, ie. no support
<KotCzarny> and the kernel is ancient 3.4.something
<poffs> i have never expected any support with any linux device lol
<poffs> so no kernel updates
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<KotCzarny> kernel updates is part of the support
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
<poffs> so... if a device is considered supported, you can just apt-get update; apt-get upgrade ? without breaking anything, I mean
<KotCzarny> it's all about uboot and kernel support (regarding linux-sunxi)
<poffs> ok
<KotCzarny> once you have uboot and kernel you can just use any linux distro compiled for arm
Netlynx has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> Without a heatsink you won't exceed 1.2GHz when running CPU intensive tasks, when choosing a good one and enough airflow you might get up to 1.6 GHz and everything above needs an annoying fan. The good news: This is still no overvolting/overclocking since it's just about better heat dissipation to avoid throttling. The bad news: You need to solder a sane way to provide more than 5V/2A to the board
<KotCzarny> and that's regarding cpu speed
<poffs> more than 5v/2a?
<poffs> really?
<KotCzarny> apparently yes
<KotCzarny> octacore at high speeds can eat some power
<KotCzarny> http://linux-sunxi.org/Banana_Pi_M3#Sudden_shut_offs_.2F_maximum_consumption_.2F_cooling_vs._consumption
<KotCzarny> these conditions CPU activity is responsible for the board consuming between 5.5W-6W
<KotCzarny> Due to the dvfs settings Vcore will be increased to 1000mV or even 1080mV when reaching 1800 MHz. And then CPU activity alone is responsible for a whopping 8W consumption
cajg has joined #linux-sunxi
<PaddyF> is the 8W consumption typical for the M3 or for the M1 aswell?
bonbons has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> m1 eats 1-2W
<KotCzarny> they are different socs, so you cant compare
<PaddyF> i almost said "cute" now
<KotCzarny> yup
<KotCzarny> wanna see my audio box based on m1?
<PaddyF> sure
<KotCzarny> sorry for the potato quality
<KotCzarny> it's self contained audio box with wifi and micro amp (2x~3W)
<PaddyF> that is ... uh ... very inspiring! :D
IgorPec7 has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> and being linux, i can use just any audio server/player
<KotCzarny> also, after connecting hdmi, i can use it as a video/youtube player too
<KotCzarny> all in ~1.2W power envelope
<poffs> efficient
<KotCzarny> yes, usually amp alone eats ~10-20W
<PaddyF> i neeed to solve the riddle with the remote desktop first before i can go and build a case
reinforce has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> paddyf: install vnc?
<PaddyF> i am on it. i played with xrdp at first. maybe a mistake
<KotCzarny> rdp is a windowsish thing
<KotCzarny> grab tightvnc and be done
<KotCzarny> :)
* PaddyF lights up then
IgorPec7 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
<KotCzarny> also, i think debian/*buntu support vnc sharing out of the box
IgorPec7 has joined #linux-sunxi
<PaddyF> wow, very detailed explanation and commands ready to copy & paste
<GeneralStupid> i would suggest x11vnc, it forwards an existing vnc session and is very easy
<KotCzarny> tightvnc has some cute compression schemes
<KotCzarny> for lousy links jpeg compression is a saver
<GeneralStupid> x11vnc knows that either.
<KotCzarny> tightvnc was the first
<PaddyF> :D
<KotCzarny> anyway, vnc > rdp
<PaddyF> i wonder why i get shitty google results since i changed my DNS to 8.8.8.8
<KotCzarny> paddyf: google often has caches at local isps
<GeneralStupid> dont know exactly what nomachine nx is, we used it around 2008 for X forwarding. If i remember correctly it just adds x forwarding modern technologies
<KotCzarny> GeneralStupid: x forwarding isnt efficient on anything slower than 100mbit
<KotCzarny> that's why vnc was born (among other things)
<KotCzarny> and keep in mind that bandwidth eats cpu on allwinner chips
wingrime has joined #linux-sunxi
IgorPec7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<wingrime> nice to remeber me
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny: take a look at nx, it is efficient but it is x forwarding (kind of)
<GeneralStupid> i know. i have big problems with wa - and i dont know exactly why. Bought a new sd card but it does not really speed things up
<KotCzarny> From 2013, with the release of version 4.0, NX technology became closed source.
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny: my system administrator career is over since 2009 ;) so i cant know that
<KotCzarny> just pasted from the wiki you linked ;)
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<KotCzarny> i prefer command line anyway
<KotCzarny> i even wrote me an audio player because i wasnt able to find any with the requirements i needed
<GeneralStupid> yes, me too. But i like the concept of x forwarding (the concept, not the 60th moon landing science in it)
<GeneralStupid> ssh -X i guess and then it works :D
leio has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> yeah, for a quickie, but its not efficient
<KotCzarny> even if you turn on the ssh compression
<GeneralStupid> no thats what i meant with "moonlanding science"
<GeneralStupid> the concept is nice
<GeneralStupid> not its technical implementation
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tkaiser has joined #linux-sunxi
<tkaiser> poffs: The next 10k batch of Banana Pi M3 comes with a barrel design for DC-IN so if you improve heat dissipation it clocks up to 1.8GHz
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
sdschulze has joined #linux-sunxi
<GeneralStupid> my wlan link (usb) from my orangepi pc is SOOO bad
<KotCzarny> buy something better?
<GeneralStupid> the "router" is just 3 meters away, my laptop gets rates around 200 Mbit/s and the orangepi is around 20 Mbit/s ...
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny: i tried two wlan sticks, with different chips
<KotCzarny> move usb irq to another core?
<GeneralStupid> they worked both fine in my laptop
<premoboss> GeneralStupid, both stick usb are good on laptop and bad on orangepi?
<GeneralStupid> i already use irqbalace
<GeneralStupid> premoboss: yes
<premoboss> can you monitor the cpo load during wifi connection? i gues id one core is 100% busy or not.
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<GeneralStupid> premoboss: yes it is
<GeneralStupid> premoboss: mpv gets a load of 100% and wa raises, if wa lowers the load goes to normal
<premoboss> so it seems cpu is doing pulling, no irq, no dma
<GeneralStupid> around 20 or 30 %
<premoboss> it seems to be a bad software configuration.
<GeneralStupid> but dma should really be used...
<premoboss> yes, "should".
<GeneralStupid> do i need to build mpv again?
<GeneralStupid> how to debug this kind of 'errors'?
<KotCzarny> watch /proc/interrupts ?
<KotCzarny> compare with pc?
<premoboss> GeneralStupid, i dont know your particoular software setup, i can only suggest you to dig inside the souce code and/or compilation parameters.
<GeneralStupid> it looks like that only cpu0 is really doing interrupts
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
<KotCzarny> GeneralStupid: told you, move usb to another core
<GeneralStupid> how can i do this?
<KotCzarny> for each in `awk -F":" '/:usb/ {print $1}' </proc/interrupts|tr -d ' '`; do \
<KotCzarny> echo 2 >/proc/irq/$each/smp_affinity; done
<GeneralStupid> do i need to delete irqbalance first?
<GeneralStupid> or should i configure it
<KotCzarny> try this command, if it works you can finetune to different cores
<tkaiser> And using irqbalanced just eats up your RAM and doesn't do anything with IRQs unless you use a fixed version on ARM
<KotCzarny> tkaiser: that script should be named armhwfixes.sh
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny, tkaiser is this script recommended? looks like a lot of work :D
<KotCzarny> GeneralStupid: just try my line first
<KotCzarny> and confirm it helps with the bandwidth
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: Will be replaced soon, we use templates then for things like that
<KotCzarny> GeneralStupid: and if it really helps then consider switching to armbian ;)
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny: first guess is, the shell feels a lot smoother
<KotCzarny> you can move other things from core0 too, especially mmc and gmac
<KotCzarny> and display related things (if you use them)
<GeneralStupid> i have arisc_hwmsgbox_irq sunxi_dmac cedar_dev and dispaly
<KotCzarny> remember that affinity param is a bit operator
<KotCzarny> ie. core 0 is 1, core 1 = 2, core 2 = 4 etc
<GeneralStupid> yes
<GeneralStupid> is that a typo?
<GeneralStupid> disPALY?
<KotCzarny> yes
<KotCzarny> but it's in kernel
<KotCzarny> you can match with disp..y
<tkaiser> GeneralStupid: If you've a spare SD card lying around feedback would be welcome: http://kaiser-edv.de/tmp/4U4tkD/Armbian_5.05_Orangepih3_Debian_jessie_3.4.110_desktop.zip
<GeneralStupid> tkaiser: do you use systemd?
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny: funny chinese people :D
<KotCzarny> systemd is evil
<KotCzarny> but you can almost remove it from jessie still
<GeneralStupid> thats why i ask. i took a lot of work to get devuan running smoothly on my pis
<KotCzarny> i run armbian and just followed simple guide
<KotCzarny> [root@banana 12:25:43 /mnt/mrrou/_data3/src/oscp-586mmx]# dpkg -l|grep systemd
<KotCzarny> ii libsystemd0:armhf 215-17+deb8u2 armhf systemd utility library
<tkaiser> GeneralStupid: yes, we use systemd on jessie. In case you want to remove it I'm not interested in feedback. But you can try out the image anyway, just needs 2 GB SD card and a few minutes patience on the first boot (reboots one time)
<KotCzarny> but essentially you can just take bits of startup scripts from armbian
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: There's a bit more than startup scripts, eg. optimised mpv in this desktop build...
tkaiser has quit [Quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com]
<GeneralStupid> tkaiser: what are your build options for mpv?
<GeneralStupid> gone
<KotCzarny> he reads the logs, no worries
<GeneralStupid> :D
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
sdschulze has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
yann|work has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
cptG has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
iamfrankenstein has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
iamfrankenstein1 has joined #linux-sunxi
iamfrankenstein1 is now known as iamfrankenstein
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
premoboss has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
premoboss has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
wingrime has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
jstein has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
leio has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
vishnup has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
zuikis has joined #linux-sunxi
wingrime has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
wingrime has quit []
IgorPec7 has joined #linux-sunxi
leio has joined #linux-sunxi
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
sdschulze has joined #linux-sunxi
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
leio has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
cnxsoft has quit [Quit: cnxsoft]
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
JohnDoe_71Rus has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
tomboy64 has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
tomboy64 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
apritzel has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
IgorPec7 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
cosm has joined #linux-sunxi
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
cosm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
bwarff has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
cosm has joined #linux-sunxi
PaddyF has quit [Quit: Leaving]
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
PaddyF has joined #linux-sunxi
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
apritzel has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tkaiser has joined #linux-sunxi
<tkaiser> GeneralStupid: It's not about mpv but the requirements/dependencies: https://github.com/igorpecovnik/lib/issues/201
<GeneralStupid> tkaiser: but thats not "DMA" related or is it?
zuikis has left #linux-sunxi [#linux-sunxi]
<GeneralStupid> i dont get why wa consumes so many cpu when there is a dma controller
<tkaiser> No, 'just' libvdpau (jemk) since you asked about how to build mpv
<GeneralStupid> iam running an 0.13 built of mpv with libvdpau
<GeneralStupid> i upgraded libvdpau a few days ago
<GeneralStupid> maybe i should also upgrade mpv
<GeneralStupid> tkaiser: i just need to add, it works a lot better with the new irq setting...
<KotCzarny> told'ya
tomboy65 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
<GeneralStupid> KotCzarny: thanks
<GeneralStupid> tkaiser: thanks
tomboy65 has joined #linux-sunxi
IgorPec has joined #linux-sunxi
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
<tkaiser> GeneralStupid: In case you still have irqbalanced installed you should drop it. It has a memory leak and does nothing unless you use Russell King's fixed version on ARM
zuikis has joined #linux-sunxi
ricardocrudo has joined #linux-sunxi
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
vishnup has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<KotCzarny> shouldnt irqbalance be done by kernel alone?
<longsleep> tkaiser: did you add the new dvfs_table to u-boot or only load the changed files by Kernel?
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
<tkaiser> longsleep: I replaced both u-boot-with-dtb.bin and /boot/pine64/sun50i-a64-pine64-plus.dtb
<longsleep> tkaiser: ok, should work then. When i tried to play aroud with the dvfs_table i got some errors in kernel log that the freqency could not be set
<longsleep> currently comparing Pine64 and Odroid-C2 - interesting stuff :)
<tkaiser> longsleep: I have to repeat anyway since this Linpack thing leads to throttling at 1200MHz
<tkaiser> longsleep: Do you use real benchmarks or Phoronix stuff?
<longsleep> tkaiser: not comparing performance, i compare usability
<longsleep> eg glxgears, pine64 is at 57fps odroidc 102fps in the default settings both Ubuntu mate
<longsleep> both is not really nice to use if you ask me
<longsleep> interesting is that firefox works on odroidc and just segfaults on pine, must be the kernel then
<longsleep> and the most important thing, virtualization is still broken on C2, works fine on Pine64
<longsleep> pine64 without heatsink is just below 80°C, sometimes triggering the trip point when running glxgears or scrolling around on the desktop, might be a good idea to use 85°C as the thirs trottling point and increase all other trip points by 5 as well
<KotCzarny> 80C? wow
cosm has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
cosm has joined #linux-sunxi
<longsleep> yeah, just idling in the desktop is about 60C (all without heatsink)
<KotCzarny> madness
<KotCzarny> and it's winter
<AA781> interesting indeed
vagrantc has joined #linux-sunxi
<longsleep> yes, this is with 23C ambient temperature, no enclosure
<KotCzarny> now imagine what will happen when ambient temp. reach 28-32C
<KotCzarny> or more
<longsleep> I did not do much testing with Odroid-C2 but can already tell that the fing does not get much warmer than 65C
<longsleep> s/fing/thing :)
<longsleep> but it has a rather large heatsink
<AA781> so these things run little hotter than expected (pine)
<longsleep> depends what you expect
<KotCzarny> h3 wasnt ice cream neither
<longsleep> but yes, A64 gets hot
<AA781> well the max they say is 105 C if I remember correctly right?
<longsleep> 125
<longsleep> absolute max
<longsleep> no idea what pine folks said
<KotCzarny> but silicon gets dirty in high temps
<longsleep> yes
<AA781> need to find out from a friend regarding the pi's a53 implmentation
<KotCzarny> so it will definitely affect chip life
<AA781> how hot it runs
<longsleep> right now our settings pretty much prevent the Pine64 getting hotter than 95C
<longsleep> but i am willing to bump that to 100 if it proves stable
<AA781> I have been keeping up with the progress on the forums
<AA781> wonder how the thermal is behaving with droid
<longsleep> but essentially everyone who wanst do do something serious with it should get a heatsink
<KotCzarny> sink it in oil tank
<longsleep> Android throttles much earlier and even loose cores if you manage to get it doing multithreaded stuff at all
<longsleep> its not getting that hot if 3 cores are down :)
<AA781> my concern is if it will run stabel enough without losing power
<longsleep> yes, if you power it through euler
<AA781> this will be my first venture into the arm world
<tkaiser> The ODROID folks said already that they also experience throttling without the heatsink with CPU utilisation alone. And there a much stronger GPU is used
<longsleep> AA781: depends on your PMU and your USB cable other wise
<longsleep> tkaiser: yesh, the heatsink gets quite warm and does a great job
<longsleep> without it would be insane at their speeds
<AA781> was thinking of utilizing a usb charging hub
<AA781> 2.4 amps per port (8 port)
<KotCzarny> longsleep, i bet getting off some of that resin on the chip would make heatsink much more efficient
<tkaiser> longsleep: They had an advantage. The C1 and C1+ before. C1 with optional heatsink caused complaints.
<AA781> should provide enough power
<longsleep> AA781: get a short cable, like 15cm and pray
<AA781> tat seems to be the operative word for the pine lol
<tkaiser> AA781: The tiny contacts are also a problem (1.8A max by specs)
<AA781> pray
<longsleep> tkaiser: well i used the C1 without heatsink first and had problems too :)
<AA781> wish april was here and I cna give more than hand
<AA781> but at this point thought I would get caught up with things on this end of kernel development so I can jump right in
<longsleep> tkaiser: i still would prefer that they would not ship with the premounted heatsink thoug, removing it can damage the chip
<AA781> when they arrive
<AA781> the s805s?
<longsleep> yes
<AA781> ya they certainly gum up those things
<AA781> you should see the mxq tv boxes
<AA781> lol
<AA781> not any better
<longsleep> we will see how things go when most kickstarter backers have received their pine
<AA781> but thermal I noticed on the s805 (the mxq android boxes) seems to hover at around 70C on idle
<AA781> wonder what it would be like without
<longsleep> but as far as i am concerned Pine64 is pretty solid now and can be used for repeatable clean arm compiling clusters just fine
<longsleep> compiling on pine64 is so much faster than in qemu :)
<AA781> the emulation vs baremetal differnce
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<longsleep> yes, i use a 20 node ODROID-C1 cluster at the moment, but that one can only do distcc and has no virtualization. That will imrove a lot with Pine64 and also can do arm64 jobs
<AA781> I am trying my hand at hosting cluster
<AA781> with the pine
<longsleep> arg, i am missing so many keys today - i probably need a break
<AA781> take one mate
* longsleep is afk for a while
<AA781> from everythign I have seen you all deserve one
doppo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
doppo has joined #linux-sunxi
<AA781> back to work for me
AA781 is now known as AA78-working
leio has joined #linux-sunxi
Nacho has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Nacho has joined #linux-sunxi
<GeneralStupid> tkaiser: i removed irqbalance
<GeneralStupid> are there any upgrades for osd (g2d?) for h3 ?
JohnDoe_71Rus has joined #linux-sunxi
<rellla> GeneralStupid: is done within software via pixman. G2D is not available on H3
<GeneralStupid> rellla: do i have to enable this?
<rellla> export VDPAU_OSD=1 and have libpixman installed.
premoboss has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
premoboss has joined #linux-sunxi
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
<vagrantc> wens: i got usb working on the cubieboard4 by applying a the .dts patch from your cubieboard4 branch ... is there any reason not to push that upstream?
<vagrantc> wens: worked for me with mainline 4.5-rc7
tkaiser has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
tkaiser has joined #linux-sunxi
IgorPec has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
fredy has quit [Excess Flood]
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
pekka20 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2]
pekka20 has joined #linux-sunxi
fredy has joined #linux-sunxi
pekka20 has quit [Client Quit]
pekka20 has joined #linux-sunxi
domidumont has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
pekka20 has joined #linux-sunxi
cosm has quit [Quit: Leaving]
ricardocrudo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
Netlynx has quit [Quit: Leaving]
doppo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
doppo has joined #linux-sunxi
tkaiser has quit [Quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com]
PaddyF has quit [Quit: Leaving]
premoboss has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
marble_visions_2 has joined #linux-sunxi
<marble_visions_2> hi all, has anyone fiddled with the interrupt controller? altering the controller configuration via the registers?
pekka20 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
pekka10 has joined #linux-sunxi
premoboss has joined #linux-sunxi
avph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
clonak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
avph has joined #linux-sunxi
<GeneralStupid> rellla: ill try
<GeneralStupid> rellla: hmm i only need to tell mpv how the channel names are...
clonak has joined #linux-sunxi
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
dev1990 has joined #linux-sunxi
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
jernej has joined #linux-sunxi
tkaiser has joined #linux-sunxi
apritzel has joined #linux-sunxi
JohnDoe_71Rus has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
ricardocrudo has joined #linux-sunxi
robogoat has joined #linux-sunxi
domidumont has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
reinforce has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
sdschulze has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
iamfrankenstein1 has joined #linux-sunxi
KotCzarny has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
iamfrankenstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
iamfrankenstein1 is now known as iamfrankenstein
lemonzest has quit [Quit: Leaving]
pekka10 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2]
pekka10 has joined #linux-sunxi
mossroy has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
cosm has joined #linux-sunxi
marble_visions_2 has quit [Quit: Page closed]
bonbons has quit [Quit: Leaving]
jernej_ has joined #linux-sunxi
jernej has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
zuikis has left #linux-sunxi [#linux-sunxi]
p1u3sch1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
cosm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
AA78-working has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
cosm has joined #linux-sunxi
dlan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
AA781 has joined #linux-sunxi
jernej_ has left #linux-sunxi [#linux-sunxi]
jernej has joined #linux-sunxi
dlan has joined #linux-sunxi
tkaiser has quit [Quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com]
premoboss has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
premoboss has joined #linux-sunxi
poffs is now known as fredom
jernej has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
KotCzarny has joined #linux-sunxi
mosterta has joined #linux-sunxi
jstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
ricardocrudo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
jernej has joined #linux-sunxi
dev1990 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
sdschulze has joined #linux-sunxi