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<apritzel>
longsleep: I pushed quite some patches to my ATF repository on github
<apritzel>
the original commits are still there, but I am afraid you have to pick another HEAD for your BSP kernel stuff
<apritzel>
or you take this opportunity and join us in the shiny upstream world, where we have a proper, upstream 64-bit U-Boot and now also Ethernet support in the kernel
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<boobypi>
montjoie: I trying your EMAC driver with linux4.6 uboot2016-05 and it's great. Only little bug i see, i must plug an ethernet cable at startup if not : Could not attach to PHY. Thanks a lot
<boobypi>
Openwrt (linux4.6.1 stable with usb reset patch) H3 work fine with your Emac driver - ssh, http, dns, iperf > 90Mbit in both dirrection :)
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<vagrantc>
well, managed to get a patched linux 4.6 on the pine64 to at least partially boot ... but it seems to crash before the initramfs is even loaded.
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* vagrantc
wonders which of apritzel's branches is the most complete
<wens>
mripard: yay for i2s!
<luoyi>
how can I use git format-patch to reply a ongoing review mail ?
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<wens>
if it's a new revision, just send it. No need to chain it to the old thread
<wens>
it might get missed if you do
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<plaes>
luoyi: --in-reply-to=Message-Id
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<wens>
bpi-m3 emmc is also empty, but written with ascending ascii table
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<apritzel>
vagrantc: in case you read this: a64-v5 is the most recent, this includes working Ethernet support
<agraf>
apritzel: so how much is missing upstream? :)
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<alain>
montjoie: just tested your latest sun8i-emac driver, it works, however compared to wens' driver it takes more time to initialise and creates issues with systemd at boot time.
<KotCzarny>
'creates issues with systemd' isnt that a good thing?
<apritzel>
agraf: on what front? Kernel, u-boot, ATF? ;-)
* KotCzarny
grins
<alain>
hahah
<NiteHawk>
apritzel: does that need a special ATF or u-boot in order to work (for the RSB setup of the PMIC)?
<apritzel>
NiteHawk: yes
<agraf>
apritzel: kernel
<apritzel>
NiteHawk: and (drumroll ...) I even managed to push it last night
<NiteHawk>
\o/
<NiteHawk>
:D
<apritzel>
agraf: well, the a64-v5 branch is on top of 4.7-rc1
<apritzel>
the point is:
<apritzel>
I am afraid this one clock patch will never be merged
<apritzel>
so I am thinking about a bigger change, which would make our work in the future much easier
<apritzel>
ditching sunxi clocks at all and moving to firmware controlled clocks
<apritzel>
using SCPI and implementing the clock register setup in ATF
<apritzel>
SCPI clocks are already in the kernel, so we get this part for free
<apritzel>
all we need kernel wise is a simple mailbox driver
<alain>
now that I've switched my OPI Plus to mainline I see quite a few errors related to my external usb drive. http://pastebin.com/raw/N15EKZpC Anything worrying? I would understand it is just trying UAS...
<agraf>
apritzel: why do we need a new mailbox driver?
<apritzel>
agraf: for the SCPI communication
<apritzel>
that binding relies on mailboxes and shared memory
<apritzel>
because it's meant to communicate with a service processor
<agraf>
apritzel: ah, ok
<agraf>
apritzel: i see
<apritzel>
but I reckon we can do this in EL3 on the ARM cores as well
<apritzel>
the driver shouldn't be complicated
<apritzel>
it just needs to be done
<apritzel>
the good thing is: from that point on the kernel is ready
<apritzel>
all we need are the proper DT nodes and the firmware side
<apritzel>
btw: Allwinner calls it "message box"
<agraf>
so i suppose there's no standardized PSCI interface for clock control?
<agraf>
maybe we could do a PSCI-SCPI-tunnel-mailbox driver?
<agraf>
it could easily be synchronous, right?
<agraf>
then properly define it in the PSCI spec and thus allow everyone to use it
<apritzel>
SCPI is what you are looking for
<apritzel>
well, we could go this way
<NiteHawk>
apritzel: so what's needed to join shiny upstream? kernel is clear to me (a64-v5 on top of 4.7-rc1), judging from your commits i suspect the "allwinner" branch of arm-trusted-firmware, and which u-boot?
<apritzel>
NiteHawk: latest upstream plus the one patch the Steve Rae posted to have the boot0 header
<agraf>
it'd just be nice to ensure that we won't end up with 5 different drivers for this on different platforms ;)
<apritzel>
agraf: the point is: this would add out-of-standard interface changes
<NiteHawk>
oh. is that in u-boot-sunxi.next already?
<apritzel>
NiteHawk: it's currently bikeshed^Wdiscussed on the ML
<apritzel>
mripard: after all my approach is independent from your rewrite
<mripard>
no it's not
<apritzel>
which is needed for every platform that cannot easily have proper firmware
<mripard>
because then, you blame it on me for not having upstream support
<montjoie>
alain so nothing that explain a change
<montjoie>
alain: what is the issue with systemd ?
<apritzel>
mripard: I didn't blame you, sorry if you got this impression
<apritzel>
mripard: what I wanted to ask you: do we actually do any kind of clock reparenting in real life?
<mripard>
for some clocks, yes
<apritzel>
can't we go with a static clock setup for the basic clocks (APB, AHB), which Allwinner recommends anyway?
<mripard>
we already had that discussion
<KotCzarny>
:)
<mripard>
we can do it for APB / AHB
<mripard>
but we can't for all the other clocks
<mripard>
which means that we need to have the logic to deal with several parents
<mripard>
and if we have the logic to deal with it already
<mripard>
why should we take a shortcut?
<alain>
montjoie: times out waiting for the eth0 interface to come up and drops me into emergency mode, by then the interface has had the time to come up and works fine.
<apritzel>
mripard: regarding sunxi-ng: I wanted to bit the bullet the other day and create an A64 clock driver
<alain>
montjoie: rebooting on wens' kernel solves the issue
<apritzel>
but was shocked by the amount of code that I need to add
<apritzel>
actually: not code, but data
<apritzel>
can't we share this
<apritzel>
it's 95% H3 clocks, really
<wens>
for a monolithic block, probably not
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<wens>
alain: sounds weird
<alain>
wens: I know, tried twice to rule out some other issue
<alain>
wens: let me try another time
<apritzel>
mripard: I will try to send an email explaining my arguments later
<apritzel>
($work ahead)
<wens>
alain: only difference i see that makes a difference are the rgmii pins, mine has 2 pins less
<alain>
wens: going at it a 3rd time, same issue. With your kernel I get a clean boot, with montjoie's systemd times out on [ OK ] Found device /sys/subsystem/net/devices/eth0.
<montjoie>
wens: seems that I need to remove thoses pins:)
<mripard>
apritzel: it's data you would have needed in the DT anyway
<mripard>
and data you'll need in the firmware too
<alain>
another issue I noticed but need to investigate further, I left the board running overnight with wens' kernel and this morning network was not working, as simple ifdown / ifup restored connectivity. May be unrelated as I rebooted the network switch in the meantime.
<wens>
you could also look at allwinner's clock driver... not pretty either
<mripard>
apritzel: we can probably come up with some way to share most of the clocks
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<wens>
mripard: not hard coding hw.init would probably cut down on redundant structures?
<wens>
(but probably introduce new ones for init time
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<mripard>
wens: you still have to provide what's inside
<mripard>
wens: and mike wants to add a new API to register a clock by it's parent clk_hw
<mripard>
so it has to be static
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<wens>
i doubt name based parenting will ever disappear though
<wens>
we have the stupid CCU <-> PRCM dependency, where osc24M and osc32k are from PRCM, but PRCM also wants pll_periph
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<jrg>
my opi+2e made it to nyc!
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<tkaiser>
Huh? BPi M2+ fails at 624 MHz clockspeed when trying out lima-memtester :( Currently testing 600 MHz
<KotCzarny>
:>
<tkaiser>
At least I got spinning cubes today. Already tested OPi Lite and PC Plus
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<wens>
tkaiser: huh? that bad?
<wens>
was about to submit mainline u-boot patches
<wens>
guess i'll wait for your results
<tkaiser>
wens: I'm a bit shocked too. Borrowed already a powermeter from a neighbor since BPi M2+ can also be powered through the OTG port unlike Oranges. And I feared that I run in underpower situations when testing through FEL mode. But that's not the case, the board uses DC-IN (using Xunlong's 3A PSUs for OPi Plus 2E)
<tkaiser>
I try to encourage other M2+ users to test too in the meantime. Wouldn't be the first time that my boards behave somewhat strange
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<ssvb>
tkaiser: don't forget that U-Boot uses some hardcoded Orange Pi DRAM settings
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<ssvb>
tkaiser: the banana may probably need its own tuning
<ssvb>
tkaiser: have you compared the [dram_para] section in the banana and orange fex files?
<tkaiser>
ssvb: Good point, I'll have a look and compare dram settings in fex files.
<tkaiser>
wens: I know, I spotted it before M2+ was ready there. And dram_para section is identical to the Xunlong used for Orange Pi PC.
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<alain>
So I keep getting these messages every 30 minutes since switching to mainline kernel. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/raw/vp1WkxYg
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<tkaiser>
wens: Are you able to ask Foxconn questions? Eg whether they did just copy&paste from the fex they found inside loboris kernel sources or tried to develop own settings for their board?
<ssvb>
tkaiser: maybe they just don't have much clue about both the hardware and software...
<tkaiser>
ssvb: Given the experiences made with them in the past I would say 'yes'. But that's also a bit unfair...
<ssvb>
tkaiser: was it you who mentioned that the original banana pi board had been actually designed by Xunlong people?
<tkaiser>
ssvb: That was Steven's claim and wens said the same yesterday or the day before after talking to Foxconn people.
<tkaiser>
Steven/Xunlong did the ODM design, then SinoVoip took over to manufacture and LeMaker were the agent in the beginning. Anyway regarding fex files we had no luck with R1 and M2 but all that happened a while ago.
<ssvb>
tkaiser: why do we even care about these banana boards?
<ssvb>
maybe it's best to advise the users to just stay away from them?
<tkaiser>
ssvb: Hmm... the A20 based boards are fine. Everything that came later has been somewhat... crappy?
<tkaiser>
My BPi M2+ seems to run stable at 600 MHz with these settings. But since there is a 2nd led missing on this board I let it run for a few hours more
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<ssvb>
tkaiser: maybe I need to update the test to also take the boards with only one LED into account
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<ssvb>
there is still the CHIP board, which maybe will reach me eventually
<ssvb>
it also has only a single LED, so the lima-memtester test will need some updates if we want to check DRAM reliability on CHIP too :-)
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<ssvb>
tkaiser: just pay attention to the spinning cube, if it is running with the gray background then everything is fine :-)
<tkaiser>
ssvb: The other Orange Pi clone from FriendlyARM uses two leds (blue instead of red but identical pin mapping) so it's just BPi M2+ when we're talking about H3 boards. And I'm more concerned regarding the problems we have on OPi Plus 2E than CHIP ;)
<ssvb>
tkaiser: I'll get the board and will look into them
<tkaiser>
ssvb: Yes, learned the lesson and rely on the spinning cube with purple background (DVI display and therefore wrong color mode used by H3 for whatever reasons)
<ssvb>
tkaiser: be careful, a glowing red background means that problems had been found
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<tkaiser>
ssvb: Ok, changed color mode from RGB to YPbPr to confirm background is gray.
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<tkaiser>
But the more I think about the more I come to the conclusion that this board isn't worth the efforts. OPi Plus 2E has also GbE, one more useable USB host port, twice the DRAM, twice the eMMC size (also faster), the way better voltage regulator and a PCB showing really good heat dissipation allowing way higher clockspeeds...
<tkaiser>
(should I continue? ;)
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<ssvb>
well, competition is still good for keeping the prices low :-)
<tkaiser>
Major drawback: OPi Plus 2E costs $3 more compared to BPi M2+! ;) After including shipping costs it's the other way around of course
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<wens>
tkaiser: shipping is different for people around the world :p
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<tkaiser>
ssvb: How long should lima-memtester run at least? Just writing a mini tutorial how to use it with BPi M2+
<tkaiser>
Will now write messages to the few users that have a BPi M2+ and are exprienced enough to run lima-memtester.
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<tkaiser>
wens: I hope some users will test and get back with feedback. Since I tortured my BPi M2+ more or less by accident (5 days in a small cardboard box running cpuburn-a7) I don't trust that much into my personal lima-memtester results. But maybe the problem is really just copy&paste from Xunlong fex file and therefore wrong DRAM calibration 'by design'
<tkaiser>
'Team BPi' has also no clue about thermal issues. With their original fex file, BPi M2+ clocks with 1008 MHz max and kills CPU cores pretty soon. I reported this to them a few weeks ago but as usual they do not care.
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<jrg>
2 more months of blockchain to go for the bananapi
<TheLinuxBug>
ssvb: any idea when we will actually be receiving chip, I ordered one and of course they say "June" but I was wondering if you knew of a more accurate date they planned to ship?
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<ssvb>
TheLinuxBug: I have no idea
<ssvb>
and in fact I have a lot of other boards to play with in the mean time :-)
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<willmore>
I have two Opione boards. Are lima-memtester runs still useful data for them?
<tkaiser>
willmore: Sure
<willmore>
Okay, I'll dig my boards out and get them powered back up. I just follow the directions on the web site.
<tkaiser>
We need at least 10 results. And currently it's 9 ;)
<willmore>
Well, then!
<willmore>
Let's go to eleven!
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<oliv3r>
ssvb: btw, i'm sorry :) i'll buy you a fosdem beer next year :)
<ssvb>
oliv3r: don't worry about it, nothing really bad happened :)
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<apritzel>
montjoie: wens: is there anything that prevents us from posting the sun8i-emac driver?
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<montjoie>
apritzel: now nothing
<montjoie>
I just wait for alain issue to be resolved
<montjoie>
apritzel: I think I will try monday to send it
<apritzel>
montjoie: oh yeah
<apritzel>
I also had to drop pins for the A64
<apritzel>
most importantly PD14
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<apritzel>
which is wired to the PHYRST on the Pine64
<montjoie>
ok, i will also add that as comment
<apritzel>
I will try to test the driver on the non-plus Pine64 later today
<apritzel>
montjoie: I think it's safe to drop any pins that are labelled as "R*MII_NULL"
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<montjoie>
ok
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<phipli>
has anyone got any experience with armbian on an a20 olimex micro?
<phipli>
specifically the legacy image
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<phipli>
HDMI wasn't coming up, so I plugged into the UART
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
phipli: native hdmi or use converter?
<phipli>
native
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<phipli>
boots up to "<6>axp20_ldo2: 1800 <--> 3300 mV at 3000 mV"
<phipli>
and then throws a few (four) dodgy characters and stops
<phipli>
(I'm reading this through serial)
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<phipli>
hardware should be fine - not had issues before with OLimex's image
<phipli>
so... in virtualbox, to build armbian, should I go 32, or 64bit?
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<oliv3r>
phipli: 64 :D
<phipli>
for any reason other than the number is bigger?
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<apritzel>
phipli: 32-bit is so 1990s!
<phipli>
I was mostly 8 and 16 bit in the '90s
<phipli>
the host is running 64 bit...
<phipli>
just wondering in case there were any toolchain issues
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<apritzel>
phipli: I guess you get better/more modern toolchains for 64-bit
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<apritzel>
montjoie: works on the 100MBit Pine64 as well
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<alain>
montjoie: regarding the systemd issue I mentioned earlier, after further investigation this is linked to timeouts in mounting disk devices, so nothing to do with the emac driver.
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<montjoie>
alain: thanks for the info, nothing prevent me for sending it:)
<alain>
montjoie: I understand your kernel has been more recently rebased than wens', means the USB disk timeout issue I'm having is likely gone in the mainline tree, correct?
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<alain>
hmmm actually, thinking about it, it's the other way around
<montjoie>
probably
<alain>
yours is more recent and has the USB timeout issue
<alain>
crap
<montjoie>
so keep wens one for the moment:)
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<montjoie>
alain: you could also try to bisect the problem
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<KotCzarny>
willmore: as long you see the spinning cube, test is ok
<jrg>
my bitcoind blockchain on the bananapi is up to 20160416
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<phipli>
jrg : taking it you're mining for fun? :)
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<phipli>
I was disappointed to be told by a very serious bitcoin friend that almost everything other than dedicated hardware isn't massively profitable these days :(
<phipli>
I was locking for FPGA projects at the time, so it was a little bit of a disappointment
<jrg>
phipli: naw. not even mining
<jrg>
although i might try just for giggles. but i'm guessing without the gpu probably won't happen
<phipli>
I always kick myself
<phipli>
I heard about bitcoin really early on through a friend who now runs a bitcoin bank...
<phipli>
but didn't bother
<jrg>
lol
<phipli>
I boinc'd instead
<jrg>
don't kick youself too much for it :) he is probably in jail now
<phipli>
to keep my room warm at uni
<phipli>
not that I know :)
<jrg>
btc has had quite a spike lately. not sure what that' about
<phipli>
keeps showing up in news articles
<phipli>
I wonder how long it would take to mine a coin on a 6502...
<jrg>
not even sure if the bpi would have gpu support for mining coins but nowadys it just isn't worth it
<jrg>
you might as well just trade it like any other currency
<jrg>
buy low sell high
<jrg>
wait until you extend past your "bitcoin bank" fees for money xfers to an actual account
<jrg>
i mean it would be great if btc were more widely accepted :)
<phipli>
yeah. better off just making things
<phipli>
better markup
<jrg>
not having a world currency is a bit foolish. especially with who is printing the money
<phipli>
<cough> ringmodulators <cough>
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<alain>
montjoie: bad news, I had another occurence of my OPI Plus network connectivity dropping, solved by a simple ifdown && ifup. No specific kernel messages.
<jrg>
alain: that can't be good. mine is one the way. an opi plus 2e
<jrg>
it is somewhere in the docks of new york city heh
<phipli>
in the water?
<jrg>
lol. the tracking just said it made it to new york
<jrg>
it still has to get here in chicago
<phipli>
perhaps it is seeing the sights first
<alain>
jrg: I'm jealous, mine is the old version with half the ram and emmc
<jrg>
phipli: some wiseguy is going to steal the truck :/
<phipli>
jrg : as long as they make good use out of the OPi :)
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<phipli>
someone pinched some tools from next door today
<jrg>
like running their booking operations? :/
<phipli>
not massively pleased about that
<jrg>
then i'd have to fill out a customer form on aliexpress
<phipli>
I have a ethernet cctv camera...
<phipli>
but the fact I managed to log into it and get a busybox session makes me nervous about it...
<phipli>
given that I managed to do so with some half arsed googling
<phipli>
the end result is that I'd rather not /reduce/ my security with a security product and so it isn't set up. Probably safest use for it would be to just bolt it to the wall and leave it off
<alain>
phipli: I want one as well, but the crap security is a concern .... unless I can replace the sw by a clean copy of openwrt
<phipli>
the one I have seems to have some standardised hardware
<phipli>
and you can re-flash it
<phipli>
someone has done some work on the firmware
<alain>
hmm what's the camera name / model?
<phipli>
but... I'm not impressed with the quality of the software
<phipli>
hardware build quality is way better than I expected though. Just getting a link.
<alain>
usual story with chinese manufacturers, good hardware, great value for money, but terrible software
<phipli>
one of the things I don't like is that by default they call home (for your convenience)
<phipli>
to make them plug and play, they put a /lot/ of work into hacking their way out of your network.
<alain>
I have an audio amp ordered from Aliexpress, paid around $150 for it, best audio quality ever, can do Airplay over wifi, but full of bugs
<jrg>
alain: sounds like the banana pi :)
<alain>
thanks for the link
<phipli>
what I really don't like is that I turned every sodding thing I could find to do with that off... and it is still heavily using my upload every time I plug it in!
<alain>
I have a policy of only buying stuff that can be re-flashed with decent software, e.g. openwrt
<phipli>
Considering setting up a second offline network
<jrg>
although with a heatsink and running it at 1.2GHz... it's been a bit more solid
<phipli>
the flash on mine contained the same image as far as I could see
<phipli>
I have to say I like using things for more than one job - why shouldn't my watch be running a bash script to check tomorrows weather and email me to tell me if to catch the bus or cycle?
<phipli>
oh yeah - another issue with the Escam was an over dependence on windows
<phipli>
web interface doesn't give you all the options if you log in from Linux
<jrg>
wow @ shodan.io
<jrg>
it's like a worldwide port scanner lol
<phipli>
yeah
<phipli>
scary isn't it
<jrg>
yeah sort of
<phipli>
the more I learn, the more I want to live in an electromagnetically sealed box in the woods
<jrg>
my domain doesn't have muh tho heh
<phipli>
possibly underground
<jrg>
the trick is to just not let people know you have anything to take
<jrg>
live humble heh
<phipli>
:)
<phipli>
I like to think that nobody that would break in would value my most prised possessions
<phipli>
they can have the TV
<phipli>
I can replace that tomorrow
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<jrg>
haha
<jrg>
they're going straight for the Pis :P
<jrg>
and servers
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<phipli>
:'(
<phipli>
as long as they don't touch the chickens or the synths
<jrg>
kind of figured chickens were a bit more dumb
<phipli>
they make really good pets
<phipli>
we've had them from when they were young, so they're really friendly. I'd say smarter than cats, dumber than dogs
<phipli>
although it might just be that they're easier to motivate with food than cats...
<willmore>
KotCzarny, Not sure I'll be running them with a display, but thanks for the tip. I do want to see the spinning qube. Is this the infamous lima spinning cube?
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<phipli>
This evening I have achieved almost nothing - I spent ages compiling armbian from source... only to run out of space on my VM
<phipli>
balls
<vagrantc>
apritzel: i've tried some of your a64 linux branches for pine64, but haven't found one that can mount a rootfs ... but maybe i'm missing some obvious kernel configuration options?
<vagrantc>
apritzel: tried a64-v5 which didn't even successfully load from u-boot, and a64-wip, which gets serial console output, but crashes before loading the initramfs
<apritzel>
vagrantc: it's a64-v5 which should give you the best results
<apritzel>
vagrantc: and try to avoid to play with configs
<apritzel>
it's arm64, just use "make defconfig"
<apritzel>
a64-v5 gives you UART, I2C, MMC and Ethernet
<vagrantc>
apritzel: well, i always base it on debian's config and then try to add features as needed.
<vagrantc>
apritzel: but i'll give it a whirl with make defconfig
<apritzel>
but I guess debian's arm64 config doesn't enable the new sunxi bits needed?
<apritzel>
which got upstream with 4.6
<apritzel>
or not even there
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<vagrantc>
i think i added +CONFIG_ARCH_SUNXI=y +CONFIG_SUN8I_EMAC=m +CONFIG_PHY_SUN4I_USB=m
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<apritzel>
you need CONFIG_MMC_SUNXI
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<vagrantc>
that ethernet driver's the same used on H3? nice...