<cnxsoft>
I can't see any comments from "kc" in spam nor trash
<KotCzarny>
hmm, maybe comments arent working with js disabled then
<KotCzarny>
yup. enabling js made it work
<KotCzarny>
(awaiting moderation tho)
<cnxsoft>
OK. I have accepted your comment. My order is still being processed btw.
<KotCzarny>
lucky you
<KotCzarny>
keep in mind they had 300+ boards, so if they refund/process all of them it should take time (and they sell other things too so..)
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<cnxsoft>
Nobody will get the board: "We are extremely sorry to inform you that we experienced a system error regarding the Orange Pi One Learning Development Board. It shows wrong price on our website."
<KotCzarny>
yup
<KotCzarny>
just got the same email
<KotCzarny>
in civilized countries all sales are final usually (unless seller/buyer can prove there was something independent happening. but seller f*ckups arent independent)
<KotCzarny>
but at least they go with refunds, so they can continue that gray area marketing without much damage
<sunxi_fan1>
expecially the point: "a trader is not allowed to make an invitation to purchase products at a specified price if he then refuses either to take orders for them or to deliver them within a reasonable time, with the intention of promoting a different product (‘bait and switch’)".
<sunxi_fan1>
let's see what they think about.. :-)
<sunxi_fan1>
i've got too the mail about the withdrawal of the order so i point them to the EU online purchase consumer rights:
<KotCzarny>
but they are based in china
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<KotCzarny>
so its up to customer to decide the risk
<KotCzarny>
now, if they were selling/sending from .eu based location, things would be different
<KotCzarny>
caveat emptor ;)
<jonkerj>
EU law does not apply to non-EU countries, unless there is a specific treaty covering this
<KotCzarny>
i wonder if there is such law in china too
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<tkaiser>
When I ordered my OPi One from Xunlong half a year ago it took 8 days and $13.50 (shipping included). This felt already wrong (way too cheap). And now people expect bulk orders for $3.70 each being a serious deal. Fascinating :)
<KotCzarny>
tkaiser, stock clearances happen
<jelle>
tkaiser: you may never know :D
<KotCzarny>
and its not as if abusing anyone, seller throwing away the stuff is in worse situation than selling below profits
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<KotCzarny>
BUT if someone makes a promo expecting people noticing, THEN saying 'sorry, just kidding', then its wrong
<KotCzarny>
not to mention its not the first time
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: It will happen again and again since when 200 guys are busy ordering 10 devices each in check-out state entering their PayPal credentials to hit the 'buy' button then this is a slight overprovisioning of a few 1000 percent ;)
<tkaiser>
Compared to the '50 items left' shown in the shop at the same time ;)
<KotCzarny>
i hit mine when there were still 300 boards available according to the site, and it took more than hour to get down to 0
<KotCzarny>
so i didnt order close to 0
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: Sure, but now they get through the orders, realize that they sold 700 for the low price and kick everyone out that ordered more than one :)
<KotCzarny>
nope
<KotCzarny>
they didnt
<KotCzarny>
each sale lowered the promo count
<KotCzarny>
so i call BS
<KotCzarny>
also, i still have to see if they sent at least one board at that price
<KotCzarny>
because in their email they claimed it was 'an error in price'
<KotCzarny>
not 'overprovisioning'
<tkaiser>
Anyway. All what I did expect was an error, an immediate refund or B-grade or even broken hardware which I won't return since 'too much hassles for this price'
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<KotCzarny>
same here, that's why i went and clicked 'buy'
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<tkaiser>
To be honest: I hope my order gets cancelled too. I've not the slightest idea what to do with H3 device N¡18
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<KotCzarny>
smart home
<KotCzarny>
or garage
<KotCzarny>
especially that you discovered how low power it can go
<vpeter>
tkaiser: Is there any video how soc is fried? If not you can make it with this sample :-)
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<KotCzarny>
you cant fry allwinner easily, it will hang before ;)
<tkaiser>
vpeter: Nope, for overvolting you need at least Orange Pi PC ;)
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<KotCzarny>
tkaiser, what about hardware voltage mods? ;)
<KotCzarny>
variable resistor connected to gpio ;)
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<KotCzarny>
s/connected/controlled/
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: That's a good point and something I wanted to look into for a longer time. Since H3 doesn't come with a PMIC at least on NaniPi NEO variation in DC-IN voltage seem to directly influence VDD_CPUX
<tkaiser>
I realized that when replacing my usual 'crap' Micro USB cable with powering through GPIO pins there, the SoC started to throttle with sysbench.
<tkaiser>
And the only difference I can imagine might be VDD_CPUX. With the crap cable I was well below 4.5V and when using GPIO pins above 5.1V.
<tkaiser>
(bought a new multimeter in the meantime and now able to measure, just to lazy to repeat tests like this)
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<KotCzarny>
easy enough, connect 4.5V if its significantly different from 1.1/1.3 then you've found the reason
<jonkerj>
would be interesting to measure voltage/current using an oscilloscope, tk
<tkaiser>
jonkerj: Maybe for people who know how to deal with a scope (not me!) ;)
<KotCzarny>
scope is easy
* jonkerj
recently got a second scope to diagnose what's wrong with his first
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: Yeah, wait for the next flash sale on everybuy for $5 and then get a scope...
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<KotCzarny>
also, you can even get cheapo audio card connecting scopes to do some comparison tests with logging
<jonkerj>
yeah, but sample rate is very limited
<KotCzarny>
jonkerj, might be enough for such test
<jonkerj>
gain can be tricked using resistors (or even instr.amps)
<jonkerj>
sure
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<plaes>
oops.. accidentally clicked on rollback button in wiki :S