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<Amit_T>
tkaiser: is it available easily ?
<KotCzarny>
hmm
<Amit_T>
oh its kickstart project
<KotCzarny>
only one sata?
<Amit_T>
that would take time
<KotCzarny>
i wonder if it can be booted from msata slot too
<KotCzarny>
also, how effective is this soc regarding data moving around
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<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: there are dedicated engines for 'moving data around'. But me scares now is that it seems 'WAN' and 'LAN' are both connected to the same 88E6141 IC
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: Please, this is a generic picture showing what's possible with this switch IC. The board has 3 GbE interfaces and it's mentioned on Kickstarter: 'Topaz switch with 3xGB ethernet'
<KotCzarny>
2x GbE Ethernet LAN
<KotCzarny>
1x Ethernet WAN
<KotCzarny>
specifically excluded
<tkaiser>
C'mon...
<KotCzarny>
guessing wont get much, i hope they will answer how's it wired
<tkaiser>
Your crapboard claims the same and it's not true at all.
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<FergusL>
Any news about nanopi neo air ? :D
<KotCzarny>
i wonder why no one makes a board with so-dimm socket
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<KotCzarny>
another barf is including 4pin molex instead of sata power
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<Net147>
plaes: did you manage to get something to display over LVDS?
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<oliv3r>
plaes: yeah I am :)
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<apritzel>
tkaiser: yeah, found that already ;-)
<plaes>
Net147: yeah
<Net147>
plaes: cool
<plaes>
though, I have yet to disable LVDS in u-boot
<apritzel>
tkaiser: best thing: seems like there is a dev board .dts in the kernel already, with USB3, PCIe and SATA enabled
<Net147>
plaes: I found after I disabled video in U-Boot I was missing pin mux and backlight enable
<tkaiser>
apritzel: When I tested with ARMADA 38x a while ago at least mainline kernel was way slower than the old 3.10 one (and still no UASP). But I didn't look into details that much. Anyway for that price it gets backed :)
<KotCzarny>
yeah, price is nice indeed
<Net147>
mripard: did you have a chance to take a second look at the drm_panel_enable patch to take the panel delays into account?
<apritzel>
tkaiser: please keep some early bird offers to others as well ;-)
<KotCzarny>
he wont buy them if they really put all 3 ports onto the switch
<KotCzarny>
;)
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<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: If they do I will simply attach a NanoPi NEO to the USB 2.0 port using USB Ethernet gadget mode and this will be the WAN interface.
<KotCzarny>
wan over usb? seriously
<tkaiser>
Quad core Ethernet dongle, I already have a name for it: 'Firewally'
<KotCzarny>
hehe
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<KotCzarny>
maybe firestarter?
<CampGareth>
Hmm, guessing that trying to power it off that 4 pin power connector will cause the magic smoke to escape. Shame, that'd be nice.
<KotCzarny>
keep in mind you will require dual voltage power source
<KotCzarny>
though it could be powered off the espresso directly, ho hum
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: 12V DC-IN, but we're getting slightly off-topic :\
<mripard>
Net147: not yet, I'm not a reviewing-robot :)
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<FergusL>
(I noted the kernel for h3 also had midi USB gadget, so quad core midi controller !)
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<Net147>
mripard: there is something strange with the PWM driver. I am controlling using PWM backlight and if I set brightness to 0, sometimes the backlight doesn't turn off.
<wens>
Net147: the backlight might also have a gpio control or regulator, which actually provides the power
<wens>
if that isn't included, then the pwm output is 0, but power is still going to the backlight LEDs
<Net147>
wens: sometimes it works though, sometimes it doesn't
<Net147>
wens: when it doesn't work, the backlight brightness appears to be unchanged
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<mripard>
Net147: I don't know
<mripard>
have you checked with a multimeter or a scope ?
<jonkerj>
I've setup mutt to read gmail's imap interface and send using gmail's smtps
<jonkerj>
kernel lists and people do not like html and top quoting, etc
<Net147>
I am thinking easiest way would be to upload the message in mbox format to IMAP and then reply to it
<Net147>
some mailing lists have a feature where you can send a copy of the message to your client with original headers
<jonkerj>
I'd copy/paste the message in mutt and put in a in-reply-to header
<jonkerj>
but if you can do that, that's easy
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<Net147>
jonkerj: all done, imap_upload.py --gmail mbox_message
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<jonkerj>
cool!
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<willmore>
tkaiser, WRT that armada board kickstarter. I think that other poster who was talking about the mini-pci-e slot though that it might be a USB only slot. Plenty of laptops have those and label them "WAN/WWAN".
<KotCzarny>
that would suck.
<KotCzarny>
doubly suck
<willmore>
If you're putting a BT or Wifi adapter in it, it's fine.
<willmore>
It's just a more rugged and reliable connector for an internal USB device.
<KotCzarny>
i would like to be able to connect 2 drives at least, system one (ssd) and data storage (huge hdd)
<willmore>
It's a bit annoying to think you have a full up PCI-E slot only to find out that it's USB only, though. :(
<KotCzarny>
if its usb only, meh.
<willmore>
A port multiplier on the SATA or a few USB<>SATA dongles on the USB3.
<willmore>
I'm hesitant to use storage attached via USB as I don't consider the connectors all that reliable for static use.
<KotCzarny>
i dislike usb3 because of interferences (and generally not treating usb as stable for data)
<willmore>
"interferences"?
<willmore>
I agree with the not stable for data. The connector just isn't designed for a 'plug and forget' application like storage.
<willmore>
Heck, SATA connectors are a bit didgey without latches.
<orly_owl>
also the power sata ones like to explode
<willmore>
??
<orly_owl>
you heard
<orly_owl>
seen a few 12v+5v ones burnt
<KotCzarny>
USB 3.0 has a 5Gbps signaling rate. The USB 3.0 specification requires USB 3.0 data to be scrambled and it requires spread-spectrum. The noise from USB 3.0 data spectrum can be high (in the 2.4-2.5GHz range).
<KotCzarny>
orly_owl: never seen sata power 'sploded
<willmore>
KotCzarny, ahh, you mean it can generate RF interference. Gotcha.
<willmore>
Guess that's why the data lines are supposed to be twisted and impedence controlled.
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