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<lvrp16> have you guys checked this out yet? https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-v/updates
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<willmore> What were you guys drinking? And in the middle of the day? I hope some of you aren't EST. :)
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<lvrp16> it was past midnight for me
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<willmore> Makes sense, then. :) Pretty trippy.
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<wens> wow, long backlog, skipping it :p
<wens> MoeIcenowy: i'm not going to use notifiers for the actual gating
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* willmore did work with PLLs back in the day.
<wens> hardware?
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<willmore> wens, yes, for radios.
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<MoeIcenowy> wens: thus how to do it?
<wens> sorry, still busy with work
<MoeIcenowy> ok ;-)
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<tkaiser> Funny: Release history of http://linux-sunxi.org/File:ORANGEPI-WIN-V1_1.pdf (and also Win Plus).
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<CuteIcenowy> tkaiser: do you want translation? ;-)
<tkaiser> Only if there's an explanation why this A64 board has been that much delayed (though I have an opinion on it ;)
<CuteIcenowy> P.S. the OPi Win power tree seems to be slightly different to Pine64
<tkaiser> Did you compare with BPi M64? Or NanoPi A64?
<CuteIcenowy> still not
<KotCzarny> tkaiser: might be just that it was based on something else, and just edited/evolved
<CuteIcenowy> The BPi schematics is very weird
<CuteIcenowy> if entirely according to the BPi M64 schematics, the eMMC's power pin and IO pins should be float
<CuteIcenowy> as there's no VCC-EMMC in the power tree ;-)
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: I believe Steven left the design in the drawer since OS support was that horrible back then. And maybe now there's some sponsorship by Microsoft to push out A64 based 'Win 10 IoT Core $some-more-BS-here' devices...
<CuteIcenowy> s/IO pins/IO voltage pins/
<KotCzarny> yup
<KotCzarny> i still believe the whole iot scam is just creating botnets for different parties
<CuteIcenowy> P.S. for HDMI powering, BPi M64 and Pine64 used DLDO1, but OPi Win used DLDO3
<tkaiser> CuteIcenowy: Do you also got an OPi Win?
<CuteIcenowy> nope
<CuteIcenowy> I have now too many Pine64's
<KotCzarny> :)
<KotCzarny> CuteIcenowy: always nice to compare to something designed a bit differently
<CuteIcenowy> OPi Win is more different to Pine64 than BPi M64
<KotCzarny> you mean 'more alike'
<CuteIcenowy> not more alike
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<KotCzarny> so 'more different from pine64 then from bpi-m64' ?
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<CuteIcenowy> KotCzarny: no...
<CuteIcenowy> OPi Win have more differences than BPi M64 to Pine64
<KotCzarny> so 'opiwin is more different from pine64 than bpim64 (from pine64)'
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<CuteIcenowy> KotCzarny: yes
<CuteIcenowy> thx ;-)
<KotCzarny> :)
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<DullTube> Hey, has anyone tested how well an A20 performs with LUKS disk encryption?
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<KotCzarny> any encryption is going to cripple data rate badly
<KotCzarny> expect 3-5MB/s max
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<KotCzarny> but if you manage to achieve ~20MB/s feel free to report back
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<KotCzarny> montjoie: The requested URL /patchs_current/0001-mfd-axp20x-Rename-ADC-register-name-IPSOUT-to-APS.patch was not found on this server.
<KotCzarny> were they merged?
<montjoie> KotCzarny: dont know, totally outdated stuff anyway.
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<montjoie> you must wait qschulz patchs for having AXP temp
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<KotCzarny> uhum
<KotCzarny> you might remove dead links on your page then (at the bottom)
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<montjoie> yes
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<fromnoise> Hi, all. Issue with linux_megous_orange-pi-4.11.0-rc5. Orange pi pc has 3 cpus offline and does not exist /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuX/online. I ask for help.
<tkaiser> fromnoise: Wrong env in boot script. Do a search for secure vs. non-secure.
<tkaiser> MoeIcenowy: Now I've a OPi Win here (though I would've preferred Prime, still want to start with H5 and Gbit Ethernet tests)
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<CuteIcenowy> tkaiser: PC2 has GbE, right? ;-)
<tkaiser> Yep. But 'my' PC 2 has been sent to jemk. And I had some hope Steven would now include a Prime in the parcel
<tkaiser> C'mon. On OPi Zero Plus 2 there's an Android living in eMMC. You can't do anything with that crap due to lack of USB ports, FEL button is missing so now I have to prepare the 'special FEL boot' SD card image to flash Armbian directly to eMMC :(
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<mfratello> hi all, i have successfully managed to generate a working image for my v3s devboard, tiger-cdr with camdroid. also, i successfully used livesuit to burn it onto the nor memory of the board
<mfratello> is it possible, and if yes, how to burn this image and boot the board from an external sd card?
<mfratello> i tried to dd the image on my sdcard, but it is not working
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<fromnoise> I studied a bit. With mainline kernel (from boot.cmd), u-boot loads dtb, initrd and kernel. So script.bin is not used. I'm using sun8i-h3-orangepi-pc.dtb from kernel tree. Kernel logs "smp: Bringing up secondary CPUs ... smp: Brought up 1 node, 1 CPU@.
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<CuteIcenowy> mfratello: try PheonixCard
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<wens> CuteIcenowy: starting to write code now
<montjoie> Does not having USB working on pine64/4.11rc5 is normal ?
<tkaiser> montjoie: Tried both ports?
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<montjoie> lsusb return -99
<montjoie> nothing pluged
<CuteIcenowy> montjoie: what did you enabled?
<CuteIcenowy> CONFIG_PHY_SUN4I_USB, CONFIG_USB_MUSB_SUNXI
<CuteIcenowy> and CONFIG_USB_{E,O}HCI_HCD_PLATFORM
<CuteIcenowy> they're needed to get all usb ports to work
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<CuteIcenowy> wens: thx ;-)
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<BenG83> found in Linux kernels: 2.6.37–2.6.39, 3.0–3.19, 4.0–4.10, 4.11-rc+HEAD
<BenG83> oops wrong window
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<wens> i think this is the longest commit message i've ever written
<CuteIcenowy> longer than the one for BPi M2U device tree? ;-)
<CuteIcenowy> oh soooo loooooong
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<wens> device tree commmit messages are just a list of features
<wens> this is more like a small essay
<wens> well, not that long
<wens> looks like it works
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<wens> CuteIcenowy: here you go: https://github.com/wens/linux/tree/ccu-pll-reset
<wens> i've only tested on the a33, for obvious reasons
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<CuteIcenowy> let me cherry pick them out for H3
<wens> you can just merge the tree in
<wens> it's based on sunxi-next, so you won't be pulling in anything unexpected
<CuteIcenowy> so I can just send out your patches after tested?
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<wens> i might do some more rewording tomorrow
<wens> i can add your tested-by if you want
<CuteIcenowy> P.S. the P factor's restriction may need also to added...
<CuteIcenowy> maybe we can add a divider_max_freq property to a divider
<wens> yes, well that's something else
<CuteIcenowy> yes
<wens> on the A80 I just got rid of the P factor, as none the the BSP OPPs went that low, nor did the BSP clk driver table
<wens> seems to me kind of useless
<wens> just add a max=1 to it if you don't anticipate it ever getting used :)
<CuteIcenowy> I can accept this ;-)
<CuteIcenowy> but I wonder if you the maintainers can accept ;-)
<wens> if there's a good explanation, then it's possible
<wens> it's better than code that never gets used, because no one will test it, and that never gets accepted
<wens> the point is you should think through what you are doing, what is the goal, what are the tradeoffs, what is left unimplemented
<wens> and document that all in the commit message :)
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<CuteIcenowy> wens: it works perfectly on H3.
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<wens> cool
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<wens> CuteIcenowy: did you also try it on A33?
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<CuteIcenowy> wens: not yet because I don't have "development boards" for A33
<CuteIcenowy> and debugging clock-related issues on tablets are a disaster
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<montjoie> tkaiser: CuteIcenowy MUSB was the missing part thanks
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<CuteIcenowy> montjoie: but I tihnk without MUSB one port will still be probed
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<CuteIcenowy> but if PHY_SUN4I_USB is missing no port can be probed (as they all depends on the phy driver)
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<montjoie> still missing something since lsusb doesnt show up the dongle plugged
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<montjoie> do you think a "kconfig" section with hints for minimal kernel configs for each subsystem could be a good idea
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<KotCzarny> lol
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<willmore> Crazy.
<KotCzarny> yup. THAT is real IoT
<JohnDoe5> not. it can't make coffe
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<KotCzarny> yes, it can. with a bit of DIY
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<nove> does the mouse functionally is preserved?
<KotCzarny> unlikely
<KotCzarny> all innards are taken out
<nove> then is only the reused of a random enclosure
<nove> could also try to use a real orange next time
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<KotCzarny> i wouldnt' want holding computer continually in my hand
<KotCzarny> seems like a recipe for a cancer
<miasma> hmm, so it seems the nanopi nas board only uses +12V DC for powering the DC/DC converter and directly powering the SATA drive http://wiki.friendlyarm.com/wiki/images/8/8f/SCHEMATIC1_1-bay_NAS_Dock.pdf
<miasma> I tried to ask them if it would work with 14V, but they couldn't tell. would anyone happen to know if the +12V pins are disconnected in 2.5" hdds?
<miasma> since they work with +5V
<miasma> i could also use dremel to cut the wire
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<miasma> eh, friendlyarm should really reconsider their shipping costs. shipping of the new nas case + nanopi neo 2 is $20 :S
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<JohnDoe5> http://tinyurl.com/lp9rq3x Android crashes on boot when running from SD card. :)
<KotCzarny> :)
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<diego71> miasma: 2.5" hds usually work fine without 12v
<KotCzarny> he asked if 12V line is routed somewhere on the ssds
<MoeIcenowy> I got a new SATA-to-USB board, which can run UAS on my Thinkpad E531 (with USB 3.0 ports)
<MoeIcenowy> however on my other devices (2.0 only) it can only run UMS
<MoeIcenowy> it's USB device id is 2537:1068 (NS1068?)
<KotCzarny> maybe you miss uasp driver on those other devices os?
<KotCzarny> also, is usb id different in both cases?
<miasma> diego71: yes but what about systems with 14,5V coming from the 12V pin :)
<miasma> lol.. http://linuxgizmos.com/latest-orange-pi-offers-quad-a53-cores-and-2gb-of-ram/ "RPi 3 seems like a better option for a NAS due to better support. These clones seem rather short living, previous models are not available anymore for replacements."
<miasma> in the comments
<KotCzarny> that's sad.
<miasma> how much support would one need for a NAS
<KotCzarny> stupidity is just heart breaking.
<diego71> miasma: if you like doing experiment, you can use a multimeter to check the resistance between vcc and gnd on the sata port of the hd
<miasma> true
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<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: I used the exactly same kernel on E531 and X220i
<MoeIcenowy> X220i cannot probe it as UAS
<MoeIcenowy> and USB IDs are same
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: that's weird..
<MoeIcenowy> oh use RPi3 as NAS...
<MoeIcenowy> I think it's a brain-damaged choice
<KotCzarny> what if you disable usb3 driver on e531?
<MoeIcenowy> with only 380Mbps USB performace and a 100Mbps Ethernet
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: I have currently no possibility to try it...
<KotCzarny> no option in bios to disable usb3?
<MoeIcenowy> (Why 380Mbps? Because the 100Mbps Ethernet is also from the 480Mbps ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: didn't see it
<KotCzarny> you might experiment with echo 0 > authorized in /sys/....
<KotCzarny> to disable usb3 hubs
<MoeIcenowy> ok let me do it soon ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> or try to use the right-side USB port -- it's a 2.0 one
<KotCzarny> or usb2 external hub
<miasma> MoeIcenowy: actually you can distribute the 480 Mbps more evenly with a usb3 gigabit dongle :)
<MoeIcenowy> miasma: then have a 240Mbps Ethernet + 240Mbps UMS/UASP? ;-)
<miasma> but the usb uses some 10->8bit coding so it's effectively only 4/5 * 490 Mbps, right
<KotCzarny> less than than, overhead and friends
<miasma> maybe it's only used for usb3
<miasma> MoeIcenowy: yep
<miasma> and this prime board has something like 4x480 Mbps for usb and 950 Mbps ethernet?
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<miasma> and the 2GB ram full of disk cache helps a bit, too
<MoeIcenowy> miasma: I think so
<MoeIcenowy> Although I didn't tested the ethernet yet
<miasma> in theory, 6 times more I/O
<miasma> for ~20 usd, people pay 100 euros here for a rpi starter kit
<KotCzarny> + nas hat
<KotCzarny> ;)
<miasma> extra 100 euros
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<KotCzarny> which means, for 200 eur one could have REAL nas box
<MoeIcenowy> even a Nano Pi NEO2 + NEO NAS Hat will perform better than a RPi + NAS Hat
<MoeIcenowy> in China for 200 eur you can get a second-handed Intel platform PC with proper 1000Mbps and SATA
<KotCzarny> yeah, or some hp microserver
<miasma> the RPi NAS addon board is advertised as mSATA SSD compatible
<miasma> ssd class speed
<BenG83> lol
<MoeIcenowy> (In fact I bought my Thinkpad X220i half a year ago for ~101 eur
<KotCzarny> is sdcard ssd class speed? ;)
<MoeIcenowy> (and it even come with a well set of keyboard, trackpoint and LCD that can be used for operating ;-)
<KotCzarny> and good power brick
<BenG83> from a business kind of view it might make sense to make just about any RPi hat
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<MoeIcenowy> and my friend recently bought a set of Atom industrial board for ~50 eur to replace his Cubietruck
<BenG83> since some of those 12million+ users will just buy about anything
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<MoeIcenowy> regardless of the real performance of RPi
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<miasma> BenG83: in ebay/ali they actually advertise I2C sensors being RPi compatible
<miasma> to boost sales
<KotCzarny> they dont need performance, because their boards have s-u-p-p-o-r-t
<BenG83> it's the Arduino effect all over again :P
<MoeIcenowy> in fact I usually buy arduino sensors
<MoeIcenowy> as even if they do not have proper iio driver, I can convert their arduino samples to programs with /dev/i2c-*
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<MoeIcenowy> it's even possible to do this with bash script ;-)
<BenG83> yeah Arduino and RPi make for some good additional hardware purchases
<MoeIcenowy> (I have really tried to lit a SSD1306-based OLED with bash and i2c-tools, although then I found that it has a kernel driver...
<miasma> I think the situation is the same in arduino/esp8266 land too, there are the official supported brands like arduino/adafruit and then the cheap alternatives
<BenG83> I use one of the NXP PCAxxx 16 channel pwm drivers
<BenG83> they have kernel support too
<BenG83> PCA9685
<miasma> how do those sensor drivers work that are listed in the kernel's menuconfig? do they expose some special /dev files for the userspace?
<miasma> or /sys entries?
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<MoeIcenowy> miasma: you first need to add a device tree node for it
<MoeIcenowy> then it can work in its class
<MoeIcenowy> usually sensors are iio devices
<MoeIcenowy> they can be accessed via /sys/bus/iio/devices/*
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<BenG83> I usually use a smaller MCU if a want to attach I2C/SPI/... devices to my Linux boards
<BenG83> a lot easier to collect all the sensor data
<miasma> MoeIcenowy: right. i think for some common sensors there are like two drivers, an 'industrial' one in its own menu tree and a regular i2c sensor driver
<miasma> or some custom protocol, e.g. dht22 iirc
<MoeIcenowy> i2c sensor driver? hwmon?
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<miasma> MoeIcenowy: yes some chip/board temp sensors are in the hwmon menu and 1-wire sensors in their own submenu under 1-wire
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: I wrote H3 HDMI driver for Linux, but now I have troubles loading it. Can you take a look? https://github.com/jernejsk/linux-1/tree/hdmi_h3_wip
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<deskwizard> MoeIcenowy: If you happen to stumble upon that conversion bash script ... ;)
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