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<Drewikophe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Drewikophe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Drewikophe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Enookreve>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Enookreve>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Enookreve>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<icliikr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<icliikr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<icliikr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<aphieche>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<aphieche>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<aphieche>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<gloshae>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<gloshae>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<gloshae>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<eghetoigee>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<eghetoigee>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<eghetoigee>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Jokrisk>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Jokrisk>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<ecielie>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Jokrisk>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<ecielie>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<ecielie>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Adreke>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Adreke>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Niaxeosw>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Adreke>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Niaxeosw>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Niaxeosw>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<idrolaqu>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<idrolaqu>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<idrolaqu>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<ogeivavafl>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Aqedecej>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<ogeivavafl>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Aqedecej>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<ogeivavafl>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Aqedecej>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<najoneed>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<najoneed>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<najoneed>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Acaxecleny>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Acaxecleny>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Acaxecleny>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Iglapiom>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Iglapiom>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Iglapiom>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<no-defun-allowed>
I don't know, I don't think this spammer likes dongs a lot.
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<Vecheqoa>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Vecheqoa>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Vecheqoa>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Qianepe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Qianepe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Qianepe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<oketreswe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<oketreswe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<oketreswe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Oqueekiokr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Oqueekiokr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Oqueekiokr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<beagr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<beagr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<beagr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Quisoalei>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Quisoalei>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Quisoalei>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<ihiebe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<ihiebe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<ihiebe>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<flafr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<flafr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<flafr>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<Veacly>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Veacly>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
<Veacly>
hi, i like dongs, and i like them a lot
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<eflaexie>
hi
<eflaexie>
hi
<eflaexie>
hi
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<Croiskae>
hi
<Croiskae>
hi
<Croiskae>
hi
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<LdBeth>
Wtf
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* akoana
looks like a bot
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<White_Flame>
hopefully somebody was just testing some lisp/irc interaction?
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<LdBeth>
This bot failed in Turing test
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<beach>
Good morning everyone!
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<beach>
elderK: Are you still around?
<ebrasca>
Morning!
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<phoe>
Looks like a spambot attack. Oh well, it has passed.
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<beach>
What could possibly be the purpose of doing something like that?
<beach>
Rhetorical question. No answer required.
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<White_Flame>
I bet it has something to do with liking dongs a bit too much
<beach>
White_Flame: I think your advice of not using DEFGENERIC is not so great.
<beach>
If you use only DEFMETHOD, then a default lambda list will be created, and it doesn't necessarily have good parameter names.
<beach>
Furthermore, DEFGENERIC is part of the protocol definition, so it's good to have the protocol functions in one place.
<White_Flame>
well, when they span systems, and those systems might be independent, where should the defgeneric go?
<beach>
Finally, if you just make a typo in your DEFMETHOD, then a new generic function will be silently created, and you have a bug that can be very hard to find. I advocate a warning if a DEFMETHOD is encountered with no preceding DEFGENERIC.
<beach>
Er, protocol functions don't span systems.
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<White_Flame>
that was basically the hypothetical as I understood it
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<phoe>
White_Flame: in a system of their own
<White_Flame>
yep, which is a pretty cluttery way of doing so
<phoe>
if you have a definition that spans across systems, I find it natural to have a protocol system of my own that concrete systems then depend on
<phoe>
why cluttery?
<White_Flame>
extra systems with very little in them, scattered around as dependencies
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<phoe>
I'm afraid we have nothing better - that's the direct implication of how ASDF dependencies work
<phoe>
the protocol definition needs to appear somewhere, so clients are then able to extend it
<White_Flame>
for me, and it's down a long rabbit hole, part of this is the lack of "understanding" (in the AI sense) of the computer as to what our programs want
<phoe>
if everything is in one system, then there's no problem; if everything is in N systems, then we are already rich enough to be able to afford N+1 systems
<White_Flame>
but then again, I use lisp to create GOFAI-as-a-programming-language
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<splittist>
Woot. Registered for ELS. When (what?) is the banquet?
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<Shinmera>
Monday evening, catering right at the venue.
<Shinmera>
(if everything goes right)
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<splittist>
Thanks
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<jmercouris>
I see that DELETE *MAY* modify a list
<jmercouris>
is there a way to force this behavior?
<jmercouris>
like (defparameter listy (list :a :b :c))
<jmercouris>
(remove :a listy)
<jmercouris>
then listy -> :b :c
<Shinmera>
it's a function, so it cannot possibly do that.
<jmercouris>
I don't see why a function could not modify a list
<phoe>
jmercouris: alexandria:deletef
<Shinmera>
because that's not modifying the list.
<phoe>
you want to mutate places, not lists
<jmercouris>
says here in the hyperspec: "delete, delete-if, and delete-if-not are like remove, remove-if, and remove-if-not respectively, but they may modify
<jmercouris>
sequence."
<jmercouris>
can you guys please explain what you mean
<jmercouris>
I don't understand how removing an element from the list is not modifying the list
<phoe>
jmercouris: (setf place (delete item place))
<phoe>
which is exactly what alexandria:deletef does
<jmercouris>
yeah, that's what I'm doing in my source code now
<jmercouris>
I just don't understand why we couldn't write a ffunction to traverse the list and remove elements
<jmercouris>
we would just have to make the cdr before the element point to the car of the element after the one we don't want
<d4ryus>
jmercouris: because its a linked list, and you cannot delete the first element
<jmercouris>
oh I see
<d4ryus>
jmercouris: well, you can, but you need an assignment to update lispy
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<jmercouris>
so we must ultimately setf no matter what
<phoe>
if you want to delete the only element from a one-element list, then you cannot magically turn a cons into a NIL
<phoe>
that is why you must mutate the place that refers to the list
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<jmercouris>
right OK
<jmercouris>
that makes sense now, thank you
<d4ryus>
correct, or have another level of redirection
<phoe>
for all other cases, sure thing, you can cut and glue the conses in any way you'd like - I even heard that someone prefers it that way
<phoe>
but I prefer working with places
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<flip214>
how about that for deleting from a one-element-list? (cdr (delete item (list* (gensym) list)))
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<phoe>
flip214: you still need to setf the place
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<flip214>
phoe: only if the place is important... eg. with single-assignment it isn't ;)
<flip214>
when doing CFFI:FOREIGN-ARRAY-TO-LISP I tell it '(:array :uchar 15), but it returns one with :ELEMENT-TYPE T.
<flip214>
Yeah, I can pass the correct element-type in as additional argument, but why doesn't it derive that itself from :uchar?
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<beach>
I guess userself was not pleased with our recommendations.
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<ckonstanski>
I started my lisp journey with Practical Common Lisp. Not only was it a great introduction to lisp, it also offered some sort of easy-to-use solution for getting a lisp environment spun up. Was it called maclisp or something? Never used it. Install lisp, configure quicklisp and install slime in your emacs. What more is there to do?
<Bike>
lisp in a box, i think
<Bike>
maclisp is an older lisp
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<rixard>
Yeah, Maclisp is a version of Lisp that ran on PDP-6 and PDP-10
<beach>
rixard: And Multics. Very important, because Multics Emacs was written in Maclisp.
<bitmapper>
i find portacle makes a good replacement for lisp in a box
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<Shinmera>
yea, lispbox has rotted away and won't (and also never did) run on some systems.
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<_death>
gn
<_death>
oops, meant to M-x first
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<White_Flame>
random style question: Where do you put a comment describing the first binding of a LET clause? (let (;; Foo \n (foo ...) ?
<Shinmera>
depends on how long it is, a ; after the binding clause on the same line can also work.
<White_Flame>
yeah, I tend not to use right-comments, but rather top-comments
<White_Flame>
I just found code where it was (let (\n ;; Foo \n (foo ...
<White_Flame>
which seemed equally strange
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<White_Flame>
since lone open parens at the end of lines is extremely rare
<Shinmera>
yeah I wouldn't do that.
<Shinmera>
you could also do a (let (foo) ;; ... (setf foo ..)) I guess
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<_death>
White_Flame: I had a case like this recently.. it felt icky, sure, but I managed to get over it, since it happens so rarely.. in fact I think later on the code structure changed and it was no longer an issue
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<_death>
there are still cases like this in the code, but with empty cond clause bodies
<White_Flame>
yeah, I turn those into explicit NILs
<_death>
the comment is usually ;; So and so, do nothing.
<_death>
but like I said, I don't let it bother me too much :)
<White_Flame>
btw, what code base are you working on?
<White_Flame>
as the only place I've seen empty cond causes so far was cyc stuff
<_death>
personal stuff... atm probabilistic graphical models stuff (I mentioned it some time ago)
<White_Flame>
ah, cool
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<pjb>
White_Flame: note that you can also use #| comments |# that you can place anywhere. So put it where it's most convenient!.
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<phoe>
oh goodness
<phoe>
I just stumbled upon a bug in pgloader
<phoe>
Only after writing a ticket I realized that I have already reported it
<phoe>
And already fixed it
<phoe>
And already forgot to finish cleaning up my original PR that fixes this issue