lekernel changed the topic of #milkymist to: Milkymist One, Migen, Milkymist SoC & Flickernoise :: Logs: http://en.qi-hardware.com/mmlogs
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<GitHub144> [milkymist-ng] sbourdeauducq pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/iO5KAw
<GitHub144> milkymist-ng/master 6bf6477 Sébastien Bourdeauducq: Merge pull request #1 from fallen/makefile-001...
<GitHub144> milkymist-ng/master 301008c Yann Sionneau: Some Makefile love
<Fallenou> thanks
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<GitHub151> [milkymist] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/milkymist/milkymist/commit/711b9894d3bbec894f2834a70d8baeb35b771606
<GitHub151> milkymist/master 711b989 Larry Doolittle: pfpu/test: keep up with pipeline length changes
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<lekernel> pots are working :)
<Fallenou> pots?
<Fallenou> the slider?
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<lekernel_> slider and blackout, yes
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<lekernel> any idea about what precisely can cause DVI signal errors when the SDRAM is read?
<lekernel> tried rewiring the DVI clock to a GCLK pin (with coax and to the SD card pin, so quite shielded from the SDRAM traces) - no change
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<GitHub34> [milkymist-ng] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/NSWy8g
<GitHub34> milkymist-ng/master 581cf5b Sebastien Bourdeauducq: timer: atomic reads
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<lekernel> hmm, vivado in command line looks usable
<lekernel> it's actually much faster than ISE
<wpwrak> didn't someone (lars ?) mention some horrible slowdown ?
<lekernel> I did, but this was with the GUI
<lekernel> and an older version
<wpwrak> oh, a speed penalty for gui users. nice :)
<lekernel> it does synthesis + p&r of the whole lm32 core under a minute
<wpwrak> how long did it take on your system before ?
<lekernel> not sure about the exact figure... but I remember waiting ages
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<kristianpaul> does vivado still using the xilinx description language or they wrote a new one?
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<lekernel> XDL? I don't think so...
<lekernel> but not sure
<lekernel> try :)
<kristianpaul> oh, 104usd for a zynq soc (XC7Z010)
<larsc> yea pretty expensive :/
<kristianpaul> indeed
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<larsc> which is funny that the paralella sells for 99$ and has a zynq on the board
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<davidc__> For those that don't know - digikey prices for Xilinx stuff bear no relation to actual real-world volume prices
<wpwrak> davidc__: is there a conversion function ?
<wpwrak> or a collection of data points ?
<davidc__> wpwrak: nah; just call up Avnet/$YOUR_DISTY, ask for pricing at $Xkunits, call em back a week later saying that you think you're going with Altera and ask if they can do any better
<davidc__> "Its a really nice part and we like developing with ISE (*snort*), but the pricing just doesn't work for our design"
<wpwrak> dirty :)
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<davidc__> wpwrak: I've see GigE switch silicon go from $35 /pc down to $7.25/pc
<davidc__> Just by making two chipmakers duke it out with each other. [I'd rather have given them bricks and shut them in a closet, but the purchasing guy overruled me]
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<davidc__> wpwrak: keep in mind though that if you don't actually buy $X kunits, they're not going to give you good pricing the next time round
<davidc__> so use actual real volume estimates
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<wpwrak> davidc__: perhaps we need a "priceleaks" where people can anonymously post chips, quantity, and price. randomize and filter the data a little to make it harder to trace it back to a specific customer
<davidc__> Meh, but good luck getting the distys/mfgs to give you those prices. Besides, if you really want to get depressed about chip prices; get a native speaker in China to get quotes from legit distys for the same parts
<larsc> hehe
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<wpwrak> ;-)
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