<lekernel>
not sure about the exact figure... but I remember waiting ages
bhamilton has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
bkero has quit [Changing host]
bkero has joined #milkymist
Fallenou_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Fallenou has joined #milkymist
larsc_ has joined #milkymist
zumbi has joined #milkymist
froggyto1d has joined #milkymist
zumbi is now known as Guest22510
ximian__ has joined #milkymist
froggyto2d has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]
Guest19067 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
larsc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
ximian_ has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]
antgreen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
larsc_ is now known as larsc
<kristianpaul>
does vivado still using the xilinx description language or they wrote a new one?
jimmythehorn has joined #milkymist
<lekernel>
XDL? I don't think so...
<lekernel>
but not sure
<lekernel>
try :)
<kristianpaul>
oh, 104usd for a zynq soc (XC7Z010)
<larsc>
yea pretty expensive :/
<kristianpaul>
indeed
ximian_ has joined #milkymist
juliusb_ has joined #milkymist
<larsc>
which is funny that the paralella sells for 99$ and has a zynq on the board
ximian__ has quit [*.net *.split]
juliusb has quit [*.net *.split]
Padawan- has quit [*.net *.split]
<davidc__>
For those that don't know - digikey prices for Xilinx stuff bear no relation to actual real-world volume prices
<wpwrak>
davidc__: is there a conversion function ?
<wpwrak>
or a collection of data points ?
<davidc__>
wpwrak: nah; just call up Avnet/$YOUR_DISTY, ask for pricing at $Xkunits, call em back a week later saying that you think you're going with Altera and ask if they can do any better
<davidc__>
"Its a really nice part and we like developing with ISE (*snort*), but the pricing just doesn't work for our design"
<wpwrak>
dirty :)
Padawan- has joined #milkymist
jimmythehorn_ has joined #milkymist
<davidc__>
wpwrak: I've see GigE switch silicon go from $35 /pc down to $7.25/pc
<davidc__>
Just by making two chipmakers duke it out with each other. [I'd rather have given them bricks and shut them in a closet, but the purchasing guy overruled me]
Fallenou_ has joined #milkymist
<davidc__>
wpwrak: keep in mind though that if you don't actually buy $X kunits, they're not going to give you good pricing the next time round
<davidc__>
so use actual real volume estimates
kilae_ has joined #milkymist
jimmythehorn has quit [*.net *.split]
bkero has quit [*.net *.split]
Fallenou has quit [*.net *.split]
kilae has quit [*.net *.split]
jimmythehorn_ is now known as jimmythehorn
bkero has joined #milkymist
<wpwrak>
davidc__: perhaps we need a "priceleaks" where people can anonymously post chips, quantity, and price. randomize and filter the data a little to make it harder to trace it back to a specific customer
<davidc__>
Meh, but good luck getting the distys/mfgs to give you those prices. Besides, if you really want to get depressed about chip prices; get a native speaker in China to get quotes from legit distys for the same parts
<larsc>
hehe
antgreen has joined #milkymist
<wpwrak>
;-)
bkero has quit [*.net *.split]
qi-bot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
kristian1aul has joined #milkymist
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
stekern has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
stekern has joined #milkymist
Alarm has joined #milkymist
bhamilton has joined #milkymist
bhamilton has quit [Client Quit]
bhamilton has joined #milkymist
bhamilton has quit [Client Quit]
antgreen has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
bkero has joined #milkymist
Alarm has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]]
bhamilton has joined #milkymist
bhamilton has quit [Client Quit]
bhamilton has joined #milkymist
kristian1aul has quit [Quit: Reconnecting]
kristianpaul has joined #milkymist
kristianpaul has quit [Changing host]
kristianpaul has joined #milkymist
bhamilton has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
lekernel has quit [Quit: Leaving]
kilae_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]]