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<stmi>
Hello. I have problem with compiling following code http://codepad.org/NXuaqdrr using ocamlopt. It displays message Unbound module Random, but running same code with interpreter works just fine. What am I doing wrong?
<stmi>
I'm using opsensuse 11.1
<flux>
well, it compiles fine for me in both ocamlc and ocamlopt
<flux>
it sounds like there could be issues with your ocaml installation
<stmi>
ok, thx. I'll try to figure it out then
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<vuln>
Is it true Ocaml is anything else besides a academic programming language?
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<vuln>
Is it true that Ocaml is nothing but a academic programming language?
<Camarade_Tux>
not quite
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<vuln>
Camarade_Tux: Why?
<vuln>
I'm at the first term in my university and they're going to teach me Ocaml
<vuln>
A friend told me it's useless and its single purpose is to be a academic programming language
<Camarade_Tux>
vuln, you can do anything you want in ocaml and people actually code anything they want
<vuln>
Camarade_Tux: But why not in C or other language?
<Camarade_Tux>
because you'll soon see how faster you can code in ocaml and how many bugs you avoid
<Camarade_Tux>
that said, nothing guarantees you'll love the language
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<vuln>
Camarade_Tux: so Ocaml is a good language to code fast and avoid stupid bugs
<vuln>
Even though you can't control it as you would do in an imperative language as C
<vuln>
right?
<kig>
quite
<Camarade_Tux>
it also has very nice features
<vuln>
Thanks :)
<Camarade_Tux>
don't forget ocaml can be imperative too ;)
<vuln>
I can choose the datatype for example?
<kig>
i'd suggest you learn some C on the side as well, it'll give a better appreciation of the good and bad sides of each language
<vuln>
kig: I already know C/C++ and other languages.
<vuln>
I started coding early :)
<vuln>
But I'll be treated as a noob in the university 'cuase I'm at the first term hehe
<Cheshire>
btw you should always be open to the possibility that you know much less than you think, especially when it comes to programming
<vuln>
Cheshire: true
<vuln>
My first C code was when I was 14. I thought I was THE C programmer
<vuln>
So I started again to study C and now I see how dumb I was and how dumb I still am in front of some problems
<vuln>
There're always someone better than us, it's the law
<kig>
ok, in C the idea is that everything you have is a stack/heap-allocated block of memory, and it's your responsibility to know the array dimensions and manage the memory. and functions are blocks of memory with instructions, so you can pass pointers to them around etc.
<vuln>
It's awesome. And it shows always the same in C and it's making easier my reading
<kig>
in ocaml, the actual variable->memory -mapping is harder to understand, but you get a GC and bounds-checking. and nicer function composition with which you can do stuff that'd be a total pain with function pointers
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<vuln>
kig: It seems very cool
<vuln>
Now that I'm understanding (reading the tutorials)
<vuln>
It is high level languagem, right?
<vuln>
Or as you can also use it as imperative, you can also use it in a low level way?
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<kig>
low level? like inline ASM or for writing device drivers?
<vuln>
both
<vuln>
It's impossible with Ocaml, right?
<kig>
oh, probably
<olegfink>
there's some driver code written in ocaml as part of some OS project
<vuln>
I'm pretty happier than before when they told me I'll have to learn Ocaml
<kig>
oh wow, that's nifty
<Camarade_Tux>
I wasn't aware of snowflake, I only knew funk ;)
<vuln>
:)
<kig>
i'd have thought the GC'd make it less desireable to write drivers in ocaml (not that i have measured the gc pause times though..)
<vuln>
kig: Other question.
<vuln>
OCaml is a proprietary language? Or is it free as Haskell?
<vuln>
not free in charge, I dont mean it
<Camarade_Tux>
the only time I actualy noticed the gc was when benchmarking a data structure and adding more than 10M elements at once
<olegfink>
it's free as a strange mix of QPL and GPL :-)
<Camarade_Tux>
and it was not very noticeable
<Camarade_Tux>
to be more precise, core/compiler : qpl, libs : gpl with static linking exception iirc
<vuln>
olegfink: Oh, not so bad
<vuln>
:D
<schme>
Hmm..
<olegfink>
hm, seems snowflake doesn't yet do any sort of userspace support?
<olegfink>
a scheduler implementation in ocaml is something I'd really want to look at.
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<avsm>
does anyone here use OCamlMakefile / ocamlfind / camlp4 ?
<avsm>
cant for the life of me figure out how to add a '-syntax camlp4' using OCamlMakefile, to use json-static
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<avsm>
oh, need camlp4find. compiling ocaml apps remains the toughest thing about using the language :)
<Cheshire>
avsm, yaeh :(
<Camarade_Tux>
ocamlbuild is actually wonderful :)
<brendan>
_tags are annoying
<brendan>
we need one more level of abstraction :)
<Camarade_Tux>
_tags is rather short and yeah, sometimes annoying, but really not a big trouble ;)
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<kc8pxy>
I'm trying to compile a program written in ocaml, and I've had to modify most of the include directives to make it compile. the one i can't seem to make work is -I +sha and it still gives me 'Unbound module Sha1'
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<kc8pxy>
is it a problem with my ocaml install, my sha install, or something else"
<kc8pxy>
??
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<mbana>
i'd like to see work being done on the jvm implementation for the janet thing
<mbana>
that would be great
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<vuln>
Is there any beginner available to talk about Ocaml?