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<Yoric[DT]> 'night
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<kaustuv> Any batteries devs online?
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<thelema> kaustuv pong
<thelema> olegfink^: ping code?
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<palomer> hello
<palomer> where's the extlib documentation?
<palomer> found it
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<palomer> Unbound value takeWhile <
<palomer> eh???
<palomer> I opened extList
<palomer> err
<palomer> ExtList
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<thelema> you have to open List
<thelema> ExtList contains the module List where all its functions lie
<thelema> once you [open ExtList], you can do List.takeWhile, or you can open List too.
<palomer> ah, righto
<palomer> I knew that!
<palomer> (4 months ago)
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<Yoric[DT]> hi
<sgnb> 'morning
<Yoric[DT]> 'morning early
<AxleLonghorn> would anyone who knows how to use ocamlyacc tell me what's wrong with this code: http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/cTXs6maH4
<AxleLonghorn> it's supposed to be a parser for a small stack-based language
<AxleLonghorn> What's supposed to happen is that anything inside the "[ ]"'s is parsed and turned into a list.
<AxleLonghorn> see for instance: http://cat-language.com/tutorial.html
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<Yoric[DT]> AxleLonghorn: it would fail with just 1 1, wouldn't it?
<Yoric[DT]> Ah no, sorry, misread.
<Yoric[DT]> Well, time to go to work anyway, sorry.
<Yoric[DT]> Cheer
<AxleLonghorn> thanks for taking a look
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<AxleLonghorn> anyone else care to take a look?
<kaustuv> Why is exprtop not:
<kaustuv> exprtop:
<kaustuv> | { [ ] }
<kaustuv> | expr exprtop { $1 :: $2 }
<kaustuv> actually, I guess I'm curious why there is EOF in the first production
<AxleLonghorn> I was trying to copy code from a working parser (that I didn't create)
<kaustuv> well, that EOF in exprtop looks bogus. You can just parse: 2 3 [ + EOF. What happens if you get rid of it?
<AxleLonghorn> I still get a parse error
<AxleLonghorn> hmm
<AxleLonghorn> without it, it fails to parse "1 2 3"
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<AxleLonghorn> it works! omg thank you
* kaustuv bows
<AxleLonghorn> what does this mean: | { [] }
<kaustuv> match the empty sequence of tokens, returning nil
<AxleLonghorn> hmm
<AxleLonghorn> thanks a bunch
<AxleLonghorn> kaustuv, do you have a website?
<AxleLonghorn> (for attribution)
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<kaustuv> Oh, no need for attribution in such a trivial matter, I think.
<AxleLonghorn> well, you're getting a comment at the least
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<thutchin> What do you think the best linux distribution for OCaml is? I'm not trying to start a flame war. Just deciding only based on caml packages. Seems like Fedora and Debian are the ones who support it the most? Any preferences (based on ocaml)?
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<flux> quite possibly debian has the best support
<flux> considering the number of packages
<flux> you could just use godi, though, and gain some distribution independence
<flux> although even godi's package selection is likely dwarfed by debian's
<flux> ubuntu also has a decent set, as it gets its packages from debian, but at times it has bugs not present in debian
<flux> atleast that's been the case for me a few times
<flux> packaging bugs that is: some modules can't be used due to linking issues, for example
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<thutchin> thanks for the info
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<munga`> hello. I'd like to mix channels from Gzip and Pervasives. Conceptually I'd like to do something like : http://pastebin.com/m65f5ac9a
<munga`> is there a clean way of doing it ?
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<flux> munga`, you could take a look at Batteries' (or plain ExtLib) with their extendable streams
<flux> munga`, I believe atleast Batteries has some gzip streams
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<munga`> flux: Extlib.IO ? I'm not quite yet ready to batteries. Do you know of any usage examples ? Of course I could have a look at the batteries code...
<flux> munga`, unfortunately no
<flux> munga`, but the idea in general is to provide a new data stream type, that can be extended.. Pervasives one is solidly non-extensible.
<flux> one simple way to approach that goal is to have either records with closures, or by using the object system
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<Snark> yes, batteries has gzip
<Snark> and I think there is an example directory in batteries
<munga`> good suggestion. I've used the extlib IO module as extensible stream. This is the result : http://pastebin.com/m221ce3cc
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<tsuyoshi> one problem I had with extlib io is it doesn't support seeking
<flux> at all? that's something one'd like to have - although I've rarely used it
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<jeromeg> hello
<jeromeg> Is it possible to write functions with a undertermined number of arguments ?
<jeromeg> I want to write a function to sum vectors
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<jeromeg> writing a function to sum n vectors is easy
<jeromeg> but can I write a function which can sum any number of vectors ?
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<hcarty> jeromeg: Sum a list/array of vectors?
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<hcarty> "val sum : float array array -> float" or something similar?
<olegfink> alternatively you may define your function as an infix operator, but indeed a fold over a list is easier
<jeromeg> I will go for the list option
<jeromeg> did not think about that, thank you guys
<totom> hi
<totom> I'm trying to build a toplevel using ocamlbuild
<totom> so I've put the names of the modules I want in it in a .mltop file
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<totom> but this works only if I start the built toplevel from the _build directory where the .cmo files are
<totom> is there a way to embed them in the executable ?
<totom> or at least to automatically search the _build directory without having to specify -I_build each time ?
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<kaustuv> totom: you mean the .cmi files? Unfortunately, you have to say -I every time.
<totom> :/
<totom> ok
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<petchema> mmmh no way to embed them as calls to Top* functions? (Toploop.set_paths?)
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<elodie4> salut
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<elodie4> does exist in ocaml conversion from int to int list ?
<elodie4> like 4123 -> [4;1;2;3] ?
<elodie4> thnks
<Ariens_Hyperion> I dont think there is one in the library
<elodie4> aha
<elodie4> and any one know how we can do this ?
<Ariens_Hyperion> elodie4: do you need it to be tail recurssive/
<Ariens_Hyperion> ?
<elodie4> dosnt import
<elodie4> but my input is intiger
<Ariens_Hyperion> it quite easey
<Ariens_Hyperion> just write a recursive function that has an int paramter
<elodie4> :)
<Ariens_Hyperion> and recursively call it self with the argument divided by ten
<Ariens_Hyperion> execpt when its callend with zero
<Ariens_Hyperion> called*
<elodie4> 0 -> []
<elodie4> yyeap
<elodie4> i will see if i can do that
<Ariens_Hyperion> there is a problem with this though
<Ariens_Hyperion> 0 is converted to [] instead of [0]
<Ariens_Hyperion> forget what i said
<elodie4> 0::[]
<elodie4> by dividing bye 10 or using mod (modulo)
<Ariens_Hyperion> something like this
<Ariens_Hyperion> let rec number_to_list number = match number with
<Ariens_Hyperion> | 0 -> []
<Ariens_Hyperion> | _ -> (number_to_list number / 10)@[number mod 10];;
<elodie4> ;)
<olegfink> you can easily make that tail-recursive, too
<elodie4> i see
<elodie4> i prefer this one
<Cheshire> I doubt that it's important to make it tail recursive
<olegfink> (but not that it makes any difference for the size of list you can get from such a function)
<Ariens_Hyperion> keep in mind i haven't written a single line of ocaml in 2 years
<elodie4> but there is no function included il inf_of_string or int_of_intlist ...
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<elodie4> like*
<Ariens_Hyperion> and if the number is a single zero you get an empty list
<olegfink> there is string_of_int (which is probably closest to what you want)
<elodie4> ok
<elodie4> and from int list to int how we can do ?
<elodie4> [1;2;3] -> 123 (intiger)
<elodie4> again recursive?
<olegfink> no, you can fold it.
<Cheshire> you can fold both ways
<Cheshire> and if you do there is quite an easy proof the functions are inverse
<elodie4> i will see
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<elodie44> let rec (f: int list -> int ) = function
<elodie44> [] -> 0
<elodie44> | e::es -> int_of_string(string_of_int(e)^f(es));;
<elodie44> i have this one
<elodie44> but is not working
<olegfink> very original approach.
<olegfink> which type does ( ^ ) have?
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<adrian_2002ca> hiall, in general, how do I test two functions(float->float) for "equality" synthetically - obviously this is not possible with the = sign
<Cheshire> adrian_2002ca, exactly what is ""equality""?
<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire: i want to test if lets say (fun x->x) and (fun x->x+.2.) are the same
<adrian_2002ca> x:float
<adrian_2002ca> obviously
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<Cheshire> adrian_2002ca, what does "the same" mean...
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<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire: returns the same val when given any x
<Cheshire> there's no way to do that
<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire:lulz at oCaml then
<steg> and why not is fascinating :)
<adrian_2002ca> steg: i know i read all about it, but I thought I would ask just maybe...
<Cheshire> adrian_2002ca: could you rephrase that using real words?
<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire: umm ...r u a bot coded in oCaml?
<adrian_2002ca> lol
<Cheshire> I guess not then..
<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire:hahahha funny...
<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire: thanks though
<Cheshire> goodbye
<adrian_2002ca> Cheshire:arivederci
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<hcarty> Poor OCaml. Being lulz-d at like that.
<olegfink> and it also doesn't seem to be the choice of experts, that is, linuxquestions.org visitors i mean
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<thelema_> oleg: code to test?
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<olegfink> uhm, the version as-is at the moment only, sorry.
<olegfink> I'd still like to know if it works correctly on x86_64 (it should)
<olegfink> the 'usual' ocaml c interface uses ints as well; I wonder is there is any use in providing a Nativeint interface
<olegfink> thelema_: it would be nice if you could try http://breds.indefero.net/p/ocaml-dlopen/source/tree/master/
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<thelema_> I'll do that as soon as I get home.
<olegfink> thanks
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