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<Yoric[DT]> 'night everyone
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<palomer> yo
<palomer> is 3.11 in ubuntu yet?
<thelema> palomer: I doubt it
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<palomer> :P
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<ertai> hum someone talked to me but my lastlog is not long enough...
<ttamttam> ertai: it was not me, but… any idea with my problem about "dont_link_with" on caml-list ;-) ?
<mikeX> hello, can I pattern match on streams? the Stream module documentation is a bit confusing...
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<petchema> mikeX: using camlp4, it's no longer in core language, but a syntax extension: http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-camlp4/manual003.html
<mikeX> oh I see (that kinda sucks)
<mikeX> thanks
<petchema> not that much, you just need to start the compilers with the right preprocessing
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<ertai> ttamttam: I don't have more clues about this, digging in the source code is the only option
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<ttamttam> ertai: thanks. I began, and will continue this WE. Will warn you if I understand something (or not)
<ertai> files like ocamlbuild/ocaml_{compiler,dependencies}.ml should be good starting points
<ertai> ttamttam: do you use the "dep" declaration
<ertai> ?
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<ttamttam> Yes.
<ttamttam> This adds my .oocamlfind files to deps.
<ertai> did you try to put "dont_link_with" in the left part of the dep decl ?
<ttamttam> Mmm. no.
<ttamttam> ertai: Hurrah. thanks it works.
<ttamttam> Do you think my machinery would be interesting in the wiki?
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<ertai> ttamttam: It would be great to extract the clear usage of dep [..."dont_link_with"...] on one side
<ertai> and your machinery in another
<Yoric[DT]> hi
<ttamttam> clear. I will try to write something clear about the "internal" camlfind packages, and will contact you later (count in weeks, months?).
<ttamttam> but I'm not sure I understood completely the dont_link_with trick.
<ttamttam> anyway I posted a summary on Caml-list
<ttamttam> ertai: do you know why ocamlbuild is so slow on windows (at least - with cygwin; or with my installation)?
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<mfp> just blogged about a property list implementation & realized batteries doesn't have one...
<mfp> hmmm, is batteries_threads also supposed to have thread-safe stuff, or only concurrency-oriented modules?
<Yoric[DT]> Some of the modules in batteries_threads are made thread-safe.
<Yoric[DT]> Not everything.
<Yoric[DT]> (i.e. no thread-safe enumerations)
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<mfp> heh, my reddit dynamics theory predicts this will have a hard time > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7x552/heterogeneous_containers_in_ocaml/ (less than 3H to reach escape velocity)
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<Yoric[DT]> mfp: :)
* Yoric[DT] will need to read it.
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<AxleLonghorn> does anyone have experience installing cairo-ocaml from source?
<AxleLonghorn> I recently compiled ocaml from source, and since the package manager puts things in a different place, I've been trying to install what I use by compiling from source
<AxleLonghorn> the cairo-ocaml bindings don't have a findlib install defined, so I attempted to write a META file and do the installing myself
<AxleLonghorn> it seemed to go well, but I'm getting this compilation error: File "cairotools.ml", line 40, characters 1-32: Error: Unbound value Cairo_png.surface_write_to_file
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<hcarty> AxleLonghorn: I'd recommend looking at the Debian and/of Fedora packages for cairo-ocaml
<hcarty> They each have a META file and you can (roughly) follow their methods for building and installation
<AxleLonghorn> how would I go about that? I know how to get the .deb file, is there some program that'll let me see the contents?
<mfp> ar
<mfp> ar x xxx.deb && tar zxvf data.tar.gz
<Yoric[DT]> AxleLonghorn: while you're at it, if you could consider contributing a Cairo package to GODI, that would be nice.
<Yoric[DT]> (not to mention useful for Batteries)
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<hcarty> AxleLonghorn: You can also get the source package directly
<hcarty> Take a look at the META file and the .spec file in the F-10 directory
<hcarty> Yoric[DT]: What are the steps to make a GODI package using godiva? The Batteries .godiva looks fairly straightforward...
<hcarty> but the last time I looked the documentation wasn't very clear
<Yoric[DT]> the godiva part is essentially trivial
<hcarty> It's been a long while since I've looked though
<Yoric[DT]> I don't know how to write a [conf-foo] package, though.
<Yoric[DT]> Essentially, you write the .godiva, you run [godiva --localbase=the_path_towards_the_version_of_godi_you_re_using --patch patch1 --patch patch2 ... file.godiva]
<ttamttam> AxleLonghorn: I did this recently. It was simple and I had no problem.
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<AxleLonghorn> thanks very much everyone
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<Yoric[DT]> np
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<mikeX> i'm pattern matching on a stream with camlp5, however it appears I can't have patterns that begin with the same keyword, is there a workaround for that?
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<thelema> match that first keyword, and in handling it, branch on the further possibilities
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<mikeX> well that's what I was trying to avoid, and that's why there was a problem in the first place (because camlp4 translates the match to what you describe), but I figured it out :)
<mikeX> [< 'Kwd "(" ; expr = parse_inner ; 'Kwd ")" >]
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<Camarade_Tux> I just noticed (again) the toplevel could highlight the error it mentionned when one is using the linux console
<Camarade_Tux> anyone know how to get that in an xterm ?
<hcarty> Camarade_Tux: It works in an xterm here
<Camarade_Tux> thanks, I'm gonna check my environment variables, they are mostly unset
<Camarade_Tux> hcarty, could you paste the output of 'set' from your computer ? I can't get the colours
<hcarty> Camarade_Tux: No colors
<hcarty> Just an underline
<hcarty> And the set output is ... long
<Camarade_Tux> I'm trying to get the colours, I already have the underline =/
<Camarade_Tux> so don't worry trying to paste it
<hcarty> Ah, I'm unfamiliar with colors in the toplevel
<hcarty> Wow... that's pretty nifty
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