<flux>
atleast you're not responding ot PING messages
<flux>
it is likely the server expects one to be responded during the handshake
<flux>
(iirc)
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<flux>
erikl, it can be helpful to run wireshark or an equivalent (tcpflow might be suitable) while trying that out
<flux>
also an ocaml irc library exists, but it fails in the documentation side
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<erikl>
thelema, flux: thank you
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<schmx>
g
<schmx>
g'day
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<Camarade_Tux>
I don't get why the result of Str.replace_first is only "Z" and not "Z_B_C" : http://ocaml.pastebin.com/m1750b40b , does anyone know why ?
<flux>
hmm
<Camarade_Tux>
I just tried with Str.string_match and Str.matched_string, and it only shows "A" as being matched =/
<flux>
template is the second argument, not the last
<Camarade_Tux>
><
<Camarade_Tux>
flux, thanks a lot !
<flux>
:)
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<flux>
you're better off using pcre anyway ;)
<Camarade_Tux>
Str is fine for my needs : I only use it in two functions : "underscorize" and "uncamlcase" (my_fun, MyFun)
<Camarade_Tux>
well, and where I just had that problem
<flux>
Str is just scary, because its horribly thead-unsafe
<flux>
even the parts that look thread safe
<Camarade_Tux>
yeah, matched a string and then using Str.matched_string on another string is only funny the first time
<Camarade_Tux>
(pfff, gitweb is slow to notice changes -_- )
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<Camarade_Tux>
actually that was me pushing to the wrong repository ;p
<flux>
camarade_tux, maybe you should get some sleep :)
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<Camarade_Tux>
flux, that's what I thought two hours ago, as soon as I got up ;)
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<Camarade_Tux>
btw, is there any library to read tar files ?
<mrvn>
libtar
<mrvn>
Description: C library for manipulating tar archives
<flux>
just reading tar files is simple anyway
<flux>
I suppose even more so if you take advantage of bitstring
<Camarade_Tux>
I think I'll rather write something in pure ocaml rather than use a C library
<flux>
soo, how easy is it to use ocaml as a configuration language for a program?
<flux>
I'm thinking of a toy application with a DSL, but just making use of ocaml would be so much simpler
<Camarade_Tux>
flux, what do you mean ?
<flux>
I want to express complicated schedulings and event handlings
<flux>
the user would be able to reconfigure the program by modifying or creating new such expressions
<flux>
if the expressions just were plain ocaml, I would be releaved from implementing a new language for that purpose
<flux>
I suppose I could just compile the configuration parts as .ml and DynLink them in
<flux>
will code loaded with DynLink be garbage collected out like the rest of the stuff?
<Camarade_Tux>
actually that's something I've also tried to do and batteries has something to run ocaml* and give you back the result iirc, that could be useful
<Camarade_Tux>
(I never gone very far along this project)
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<gildor>
flux: there is another way to use ocaml as a configuration language
<gildor>
flux: consider the configuration file as the "main" of your program
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<flux>
gildor, well, I want to run the program for a very long time
<flux>
gildor, and introduce configuration changes on a live system
<gildor>
do you intend to use bytecode or native version ?
<flux>
bytecode is sufficient
<gildor>
you can consider your configuration file as input for toplevel
<gildor>
you just have to "ocamlrun ocaml myprogr.cma myconfig.ml"
<gildor>
and myconfig can do very complicated stuff to do configuration
<gildor>
and call "MyProg.run ()" in the middle (before exit action)
<flux>
so, how would one go about introducing live changes?
<gildor>
I don't say i have the answer for all ;-)
<flux>
the data I actually have is related to time scheduling and raising flags and connecting operations to such events
<flux>
realistically I don't really need to run it all live
<flux>
the system could infact be driven from cron
<gildor>
but, you can instead of running the program from the configuration file
<flux>
and just some parts of it would be running continuously
<gildor>
output the configuration wished
<gildor>
using "output_value"
<flux>
well, most of the point in that kind of configuration is using higher order values
<gildor>
take exactly the same structure, but instead "MyProg.run ctxt"
<gildor>
you run "output_value stdout ctxt"
<gildor>
and your program do a "input_value stdin"
<flux>
and closures work only if send from the same binary
<gildor>
to get the configuration updated
<flux>
but, how about using toplevel programmatically?
<flux>
is it much different from using dynlink?
<gildor>
that what I am proposing to you
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<gildor>
not very different indeed
<gildor>
just another way
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* gildor
need to go
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<Camarade_Tux>
well, ocaml-gir is progressing nicely but there is still work ahead
<flux>
ocaml-gir's SCM per the forge web is empty?
<Camarade_Tux>
(warning : you may^Wwill find the code pretty ugly)
<flux>
it's got.. some comments :-o
<flux>
not that long
<flux>
which is nice
<Camarade_Tux>
it's not long but it's a block and sometimes feels like spaghetti
<Camarade_Tux>
but yeah, it's short for what it does :)
<Camarade_Tux>
for an old webkit, it generates about 1200 lines (should be more with more recent versions), two lines generated for each line written is a good ratio :)
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<Camarade_Tux>
gobject-introspection provides some nice things but it's really poorly documented, I've been trying to get the proper command-line for g-ir-scanner, I can't even reproduce one of their working example (it's in a Makefile)
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<flux>
camarade_tux, yes, it would be great if it was split into modules, and infact if the modules formed a solid foundation for generating bindings (even if just for gtk) driven by a relatively simple main program, that would be terrific :)
<Camarade_Tux>
flux, it should soon be able to build everything but gobject-introspection's gir (which is xml) is nearly^Wcompletely undocumented, I'll start splitting it then
<Camarade_Tux>
but it will certainly remain something for lablgtk, it relies heavily on it (macros, types [polymorphic variants], signals...)
<flux>
well, perhaps we can wait how generic QtCaml's C++ binding generator is, then :)
<Camarade_Tux>
gobject-introspection can only introspect... gobjects (for instance, it relies on the *_get_type() functions), supporting .idl has been mentionned but I don't know if it will ever happen
<flux>
but, if the parts doing introspection and the parts that generate code per that introspection were separated with a clean interface, perhaps there'd be something reusable left..
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<Camarade_Tux>
not necessarily, when defining a type in gtk, you actually define several functions that can be later used for casts and it's not sure it would work without these functions, but I'm starting to see how it could be done or at least tried, maybe with a plugin architecture
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<Camarade_Tux>
btw, can anyone with gnome-autoconf run ./autogen.sh in 'git clone git://git.gnome.org/gir-repository' and send me the result ?
<Camarade_Tux>
(yes, I don't have gnome, and I don't have kde, and I don't have xfce, and actually I don't have anything)
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<flux>
what is 'the result'?
<flux>
should I record its output to console?
<flux>
I apparently need something else too
<flux>
libtool.m4, pkg.m4
<Camarade_Tux>
flux, only a tarball of the folder once autogen has completed
<Camarade_Tux>
does it fail ?
<Camarade_Tux>
maybe they rely on gobject-introspection
<Camarade_Tux>
(although it shouldn't before the ./configure stage)
<Camarade_Tux>
but I should be able to do that myself tomorrow, I'll have access to machines with gnome
<Camarade_Tux>
thanks anyway :)
<flux>
happy hacking :)
<Camarade_Tux>
=)
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<Camarade_Tux>
I sometimes find the streets unsure but when I'm at home, I don't fear dying
<Camarade_Tux>
wrong channel...
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<jeff_s_>
hi ocamlers, I'm wondering if anyone knows how to get ocaml to report its type checking decisions.
<jeff_s_>
I have a function call in a place that would be a huge pain in the butt to pull out of its context, which is inside a functor inside a function that's mutually recursive with other functions.
<jeff_s_>
Not an easy context to check manually :(
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<jli>
do MLers simply use pattern matching for case statements?
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<jeff_s_>
yes
<jli>
neat, thanks
<jeff_s_>
yer welcome
<jli>
are there functions like Common Lisp's every, some, etc., that take a predicate function and a list of elements and return a boolean?