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Algebr >
How do I write a bigarray to a file
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Algebr >
nvm, i get it.
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mrvn >
Algebr: ExtUnix.BA.write
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do any of the caml_ba_array macros return the size of the contents?
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Algebr >
well, total size_t?
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Algebr >
I see SIZEOF_BA_ARRAY , but this doesn't look right
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Algebr >
ah, just had to look it up in dim field
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palomer >
I want to serialize/deserialize values
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palomer >
records of the form {a:int, b:string, c:bool}
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palomer >
actually, make that
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palomer >
{a: int option, b: string option, c : string option}
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palomer >
and I want to be able to add optional fields to that type later on
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apache2 >
may want to look into the bitstring module
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apache2 >
although last time I used it it didn't support the new immutable strings properly
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apache2 >
sounds like this google protobuf would do a decent job here, not sure if there is an ocaml implementation around
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palomer >
ah yes, protobufs
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palomer >
or facebook’s thrift
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Algebr >
therex extprot
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palomer >
is it possible to have transactions with fopen?
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palomer >
I want to have a continuous backup, but I don’t want to corrupt it if my program exits in the middle of a write
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apache2 >
what you're describing is called "atomic writes"
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apache2 >
depending on the level of atomicity you want, support depends on operating system and file system used
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Algebr >
I think he meant more about it was linux, bsd, or windows, etc.
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palomer >
extprot won’t install
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palomer >
I’ll just use marshal I guess
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palomer >
since I’m an eminem fan
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palomer: If you want serialezed messages to be dynamically typed, you may like msgpack.
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dmbaturin >
Its ocaml library uses polymorphic variants much like yojson.
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dmbaturin >
Or it was a normal sum type? Either way, it's schemaless.
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palomer >
msgpack hasn’t been updated since 2013
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palomer >
well, the ocaml library at least
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companion_cube >
Drup: indeed. I'm fixing that right now.
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companion_cube >
I assume you only need to replace substrings with a new string?
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tibor_ >
Can someone help me in typecasting None to None: Globals.control_path_id?
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enjolras_ >
tibor_: there is no such thing as typecast in ocaml (or, there is but not here)
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enjolras_ >
what do you mean ? You want to convert foo option to bar option ?
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companion_cube >
Drup: added
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tibor_ >
yes I would like to convert foo option to bar option
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tibor_ >
How can I do it?
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enjolras_ >
you have to do it explicitly
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enjolras_ >
with a match for instance, or using functions in a lib
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tibor_ >
I'm sorry for my questions :(
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enjolras_ >
you're weclome :)
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madroach >
Hi, I'd like to play with async_kernel, but can't figure out how to start the scheduler.
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madroach >
async_unix has Scheduler.go, but the Scheduler module in async_kernel neither has a go function nor is the module exposed at all.
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nullcatx_ >
not many people here have much experience with async
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nullcatx_ >
i can have a look though
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nullcatx_ >
em... i guess async_kernel is used to power async_unix
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nullcatx_ >
you'd like to use async_unix ..
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nullcatx_ >
is used to power all other async libraries*
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madroach >
thanks :)
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ely-se >
my experience with async: crying for stackful coroutines
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Dynasty >
How can I use the Container interface to fold over a list?
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Drup >
Dynasty: List.fold_{left,right} ?
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Drup >
(it's not specific to containers ...)
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Dynasty >
Can I do something like Container.length [1,2,3,4]
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Dynasty >
I was looking for something like Haskell's foldable typeclass
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Drup >
wait, which "Container" module are you talking about ?
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Dynasty >
The one provided by Janestreet I believe
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Drup >
I didn't knew they had one.
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Drup >
can't help you then, sorry
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nullcatx_ >
after spending sometime in OCaml community, I realized very few people use JaneStreet's libraries...
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ely-se >
most of the OCaml community is Jane Street :P
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Drup >
ely-se: that is highly false
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Drup >
except if you mesure the community by the money it generates
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Drup >
but usually, it means people ...
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companion_cube >
it's hard to assess the fraction of OCaml users that use JST libs
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companion_cube >
I'd like to know ^^
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companion_cube >
hey
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palomer >
anyone know how to use ppx_deriving with ocamlbuild?
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<
Drup >
like any other libraries
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Drup >
just depends on ppx_deriving.std
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palomer >
-package ppx_deriving.show ?
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companion_cube >
exactly
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palomer >
so something like this: cd ~/temp/testjapdata && ocamlbuild -pkg ppx_deriving.show testshow.native && ./testshow.native ?
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Drup >
don't forget -use-ocamlfind
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palomer >
that was the mistake!
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palomer >
thanks :D
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orbitz >
companion_cube: I <3 how many errors I find just by some quick prop tests
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companion_cube >
yeah
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companion_cube >
it's amazing
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qrvpzvb >
So... what is ppx?
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companion_cube >
it's a preprocessor that works on AST
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qrvpzvb >
Oh! Kind of like Template Haskell then?
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companion_cube >
orbitz: what are you using for prop tests?
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companion_cube >
qrvpzvb: not sure, I don't now TH
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companion_cube >
but basically you write a function parse_tree -> parse_tree
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qrvpzvb >
So.. macros?
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companion_cube >
generallly using annotations such as [@@foo]
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orbitz >
companion_cube: just yours and my own test harness
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orbitz >
qrvpzvb: probably a bit closer to java annotations
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companion_cube >
you mean qcheck?
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companion_cube >
ok
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companion_cube >
I'm using qtest, those days (for the ease of writing tests)
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ollehar >
did anyone get hlvm to compile?
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ollehar >
old project.
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orbitz >
I haven't treid
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companion_cube >
pfiu, relieved, I thought I found a bug
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qrvpzvb >
Σηατ ισ ψο;?
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qrvpzvb >
Oops, wrong layout
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qrvpzvb >
What is Coq?
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companion_cube >
Coq is a language for writing formal proofs
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qrvpzvb >
For math?
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companion_cube >
for logic
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companion_cube >
including maths
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qrvpzvb >
That makes sense
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companion_cube >
it can also be used to write programs and prove properties on them
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companion_cube >
e.g., the Gallium team develops a C compiler in Coq, and proves the compiler is correct
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qrvpzvb >
Oh, wow. That's cool. What's the project's name?
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companion_cube >
compcert
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ollehar >
qrvpzvb: there's also a blog engine proven correct in Coq :)
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orbitz >
For those blog messages you just can't miss!
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companion_cube >
heh
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qrvpzvb >
Seems a bit excessive!
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<
companion_cube >
life critical blogging
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Drup >
there is also a web browser proven in coq.
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companion_cube >
only a small part of it
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Drup >
A ridiculously small part of it, even
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flux >
it is able to make requests, but they are provenly incorrect?
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companion_cube >
no, the Coq part protects the OS from possible breaches in the browser, afaict
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companion_cube >
so you have a modern browser, with lots of LoC
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flux >
with the most recent firefox vulnerability I actually started to use firejail to block ~/.ssh from its namespace
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flux >
would this have solved the issue as well?
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companion_cube >
I don't know
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flux >
if not, then it's fairly useless.. :)
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ollehar >
companion_cube: I think he proved that non-logged in users can't edit this or that
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flux >
ollehar, you're not talking about the Coq-proven blog engine?
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ollehar >
flux: I think I am... hm, wait.
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ollehar >
> We check that, for any runs of a program, an unauthenticated user cannot access private pages (like edit) or modify the file system with system calls.
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ollehar >
flux: interesting "military" font in the header...
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ollehar >
but nice!
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flux >
I really lke its graph editor as well
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flux >
too bad it's not written in ocaml ;-)
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flux >
also I'm stuck at 2.8.. ;-)
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flux: 2.5 reversed?
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ollehar >
no, wait, nm.
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is A /\ B <-> A -> B /\ B -> A ?
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flux >
oh, solved it.
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so when does Coq get this nice drag'n'drool-interface?!
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