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<aparcar[m]> Hauke: I think now you removed support for gcc5, doesn't that mean we have to apply ynezz patches for gcc6+?
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<mangix> a bunch of autotools packages try to link to host libraries
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<KGB-0> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_mediatek.html has been updated. (100.0% images and 97.3% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
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<ynezz> aparcar[m]: did you read my email? :P
<aparcar[m]> yes
<aparcar[m]> maybe I missunderstood it
<aparcar[m]> but you naked it
<aparcar[m]> but then hauke dropped support for 5, meaning 6 is the minimum anyway isn't it?
<ynezz> it's host Vs target
<ynezz> we don't build complete toolchain for the host
<ynezz> those 5 patches were for target
<ynezz> s/5/v5/
<aparcar[m]> oh
<aparcar[m]> than this was entirely unrelated
<aparcar[m]> *then
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<ynezz> mangix: AFAIU that commit has just exposed issues which should be fixed
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<ynezz> so I'm running latest master on realtek switch with following DSA configuration http://sprunge.us/XT1ZEQ and it seems like the VLANs are not isolated properly as I'm seeing broadcast/multicast traffic from vlan10/router-lan on vlan200/testbed-lan
<Strykar> how do I build ncurses with the binaries tic and tput? I've tried adding the suggestion to the Makefile at https://forum.openwrt.org/t/unable-to-compile-libncurses-with-tic-tput/48949 but it still builds just the libs
<ynezz> basically for the start I'm trying to separate 28 port switch into 3 smaller 4-port switches and then continue to add more stuff
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<PaulFertser> Strykar: do you need tic and tput on the target?
<PaulFertser> Strykar: or on the host? The install section is not related to building anyway.
<Strykar> PaulFertser: on the target
<PaulFertser> Strykar: then you need to modify Install section
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<PaulFertser> Strykar: and change --without-progs to --with-progs probably
<Strykar> PaulFertser: isn't that what the define Host/Install was doing? I have changed to --with-progs, this is the Makefile - https://gist.github.com/Strykar/5cbcccdbb185d2689bb0d7f0c3c4abf7
<PaulFertser> Strykar: Host/Install is unrelated to what gets packaged in ipk to be installed on target.
<Strykar> PaulFertser: so it should be under "define Package/libncurses/install"?
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<Strykar> that only builds ncursesw6-config
<damex> uh, i just installed luci-app-ddns and ddns-scripts-cloudflare and it done successfully. it is forever looping now in background doing 'opkg --force-removal-of-dependent-packages --force-overwrite --nocase info ddns-scripts'. why?
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<mangix> ynezz: sure but someone has to fix them :\
<novski__> i try to add a spi device to my Linkit Smart 7688 but `ls /dev/*spi*`does not show any available spi where the docs say the MT7688N has two. Do i have to enable it somehow?
<blogic> novski__: you are missing the spi-dev driver most likely
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<PaulFertser> Strykar: you can run with V=sc to see what exactly is getting built
<PaulFertser> Strykar: and you can run the build manually on your host system to see what arguments are needed for the tools you're interested in.
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<damex> ynezz: is it even a supported syntax for switch bridge? shouldn't you use type = 'bridge' and tag ports with ifname.iftag ?
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<damex> https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/base-system/basic-networking bridge_empty might be needed if you create an empty bridge at first
<ynezz> damex: it seems like it is supported syntax for DSA, because netifd creates the network as requested
<ynezz> just some bits are missing, possibly /sys/devices/virtual/net/switch/bridge/multicast_router should be set to 0 as well
<damex> ynezz: any docs? because with dsa you're supposed to create bridge over that interfaces and proper dsa management is not implemented yet
<ynezz> `bridge vlan` output http://sprunge.us/JUwbO7
<Strykar> PaulFertser: right, I havent managed to package it, but I did get tic to build, and even with libncurses-dev installed on the target - https://bpa.st/QQCA which looks like a glibc issue
<ynezz> damex: no docs unfortunately :)
<ynezz> damex: I've got most of the info from https://github.com/openwrt/luci/pull/4307
<Strykar> I'm not a programmer, it might be easier to find someone on fiverr to do this.. the openwrt forum post is one year old with 1 response
<PaulFertser> Strykar: looks like you have tried to copy tic compiled for host to your target.
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<Strykar> that was what I thought at first, but it's size was 1/10th of the other tic binaries
<PaulFertser> Strykar: where did you copy it from exactly?
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<Strykar> PaulFertser: ~/openwrt-sdk/openwrt-sdk-19.07.4-x86-64_gcc-7.5.0_musl.Linux-x86_64/build_dir/target-x86_64_musl/ncurses-6.1/progs
<Strykar> there's even an example (for the host) at https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/blob/openwrt-19.07/package/libs/ncurses/Makefile#L170 but I can't seem to convert that for the target
<PaulFertser> Strykar: my guess is that those programs are compiled for the host to help building the databases etc. So you need some trick to cross-compile them.
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* ldir urghs
<russell--> ynezz: a few days ago i became aware of this in the context of adding support for bullet-ac: https://github.com/true-systems/ubnt-openwrt-flashing ... did you give any thought to trying to disable the rsa key check in the ubiquiti u-boot?
<ynezz> russell--: it should be doable, yes
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<russell--> i don't know mips binary instructions, but i assume the sed is replacing an branch with a no op of some kind
<russell--> a* branch
<ynezz> which sed?
<russell--> oh, sorry. i was referring to the flashing instructions where fwupgrade.real is hexdump'd through a sed and then reverse hexdump'd
<russell--> hexdump -Cv /bin/ubntbox | sed 's/14 40 fe 27/00 00 00 00/g' | hexdump -R > /tmp/fwupdate.real
<ynezz> yes, correct
<russell--> nice
<ynezz> but doing this for u-boot is obviously more risky
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<russell--> yeah, probably not worth it.
<ynezz> it depends on the volume
<russell--> it would be nice if you could flash from urescue
<ynezz> yeah, tell that to UBNT :p
<russell--> but seems like the steps to accomplish that would be far beyond the available methods
<russell--> yeah, totally.
<russell--> anyway, i appreciate the work you put into finding the magic instructions
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<karlp> ynezz: I'm getting fallout from that specs cahngfe too, though I agree it looks right :| https://paste.jvnv.net/view/8ghmN was me trying to understand it the other day, but it's same now, a sunxi build fails, but ath79 works, for the same app, while other apps do build on sunxi, and the sunxi build is fixed when I revert the rules.mk change :|
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<Corny> I everyone. I am struggeling with a custom kernel configuration. I can not enable NET_DROP_MONITOR. Does anyone have a hint for me? I also described my issue in the forum: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/enabling-net-drop-monitor/82259
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<damex> https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=284 looks interesting :)
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<adrianschmutzler> If I create a package that only consists of local files, will I create Build/Prepare and Build/Configure as empty or leave them undefined?
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<russell--> adrianschmutzler: i think empty
<russell--> Build/Compile and Build/Configure in my case
<adrianschmutzler> nothing to compile either, just uci-defaults/scripts
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<adrianschmutzler> Build/Compile needs to be empty indeed
<adrianschmutzler> but I'm not sure about the other two, have found different examples
<russell--> empiricism, ftw
<adrianschmutzler> I have actually already tried to read the package*.mk files, but I'm still not really sure since I'm dealing to rarely with that stuff
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<adrianschmutzler> well, let's just remove them and see whether building explodes in my face ...
<russell--> that's exactly what i would do (did*, iirc)
<tmn505> adrianschmutzler: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3477292/what-do-and-do-as-prefixes-to-recipe-lines-in-make, check which commands in Build/* are prepended with +, these will fail the build if not redefined.
<adrianschmutzler> tmn505: thanks. However, all of the relevant definitions are flagged as optional in the documentation, and I also found defaults in the package*.mk files already. The question is more whether these defaults are suitable
<adrianschmutzler> (as I can only partially judge the latter)
<adrianschmutzler> I suspect that it just won't matter without an external source pulled, but I'm not sure
<adrianschmutzler> tmn505: btw, you are the one with the c-75 patches?
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<tmn505> adrianschmutzler: yes
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<adrianschmutzler> I'm not really satisfied with the partition labels, I'm still looking for something that both expressed your "reserved" but also the fact that these are part of the concatenated partition
<adrianschmutzler> but I'm still searching for an idea there ...
<tmn505> I'm fine with whatever You'll come up with.
<adrianschmutzler> it's not so much about your patch, I will just merge it later.
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<adrianschmutzler> but eventually the points you made were valid, and we should label it to something preventing users from changing it on all devices
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<russell--> tmn505: the buffalo wzr600dhp has two spi flash chips
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<aparcar[m]> will there be another 19.07 release? I guess so right?
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<karlp> given we only just did the last 18.06, I would _expect_ so, especially as we haven't even _branched_ for a new release...
<karlp> it tends to be regarded as bad form to EOL something before the replacement is even available :)
<Hauke> yes there will be a next 19.07 release
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<Borromini> :P
<aparcar[m]> thanks
<Borromini> aparcar[m]: why are you asking?
<aparcar[m]> Borromini: backporting
<Borromini> :)
<Borromini> even without releases it would be seeing security fixes
<aparcar[m]> https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/3696 more relevant to the firmware selector
<novski__> why does /dev not show any spi when `ls /dev/*spi*` when i have `kmod-spi-dev [=y]` in menuconfig ?
<Borromini> aparcar[m]: ok :)
<aparcar[m]> reboot :3?
<aparcar[m]> novski__: what are you running on? kernel 4.14 looks way to old
<novski__> im on 19.7
<novski__> 19.07.4, r11208-ce6496d796 exactly
<Borromini> aparcar[m]: hehehe. all of 19.07 is on 4.14 :P
<aparcar[m]> awkward
<Borromini> well, not even i think. there's some targets on 4.9 even
<aparcar[m]> sorry
<novski__> ah sorry Linux version 4.14.195
<novski__> do i have to download the package again an just try another build?
<aparcar[m]> novski__: please compare the checksums
<aparcar[m]> maybe something went wrong with the download
<novski__> aparcar[m]: i will. Thanks
<aparcar[m]> adrianschmutzler: what do you think about not requiring a PKG_BUMP for base-files anymore and entirely use the number of commits? It's inconvenient to ping everyone to raise the PKG_RELEASE, especially if 5 people have patches in parallel, because then we have to fixup the release anyway.
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<karlp> seems reasonable for base-files, where the content is in the repo, and the seq number is used elsewhere.
<karlp> could arguably be applied to all packages in core...
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<jow> the scheme breaks down if you factor in branches
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<karlp> I thought this was just proposed for the pkg-release bit? so the pkg-version would still be relevant, but yeah, it could get confusing.
<mangix> aparcar[m]: 4.14 is LTS
<mangix> 4.4 on the other hand is super LTS
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<rsalvaterra> mangix: 4.4, 4.9, 4.14, 4.19, 5.4, 5.10 (this is the odd one out :P).
<rsalvaterra> (Or, shall I say, even. :P)
<pkgadd> whatever happens to be the last stable kernel published in a calendar year
<pkgadd> ..with a little wiggle room in either direction
<mangix> rsalvaterra: I forgot how it went. 4.4 is super LTS as well as 4.19 I think
<mangix> 4.4 will be supported through 2038 I believe
<mangix> blame the japanese
<karlp> that's the one for trains and shit right? I remember they wewre planning some super long term maintennance
<mangix> yep. they call it "social infrastructure"
<mangix> based on kernel 4.4
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<mangix> i don't think 4.4 is even year 2038 safe
<mangix> so basically what red hat does but upstream
<mangix> pure madness