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<KGB-0> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_bcm47xx.html has been updated. (100.0% images and 98.3% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
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<owrt-snap-builds> build #737 of omap/generic is complete: Failure [failed tools] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/builders/omap%2Fgeneric/builds/737 blamelist: Ilya Lipnitskiy <ilya.lipnitskiy@gmail.com>, Adrian Schmutzler <freifunk@adrianschmutzler.de>, Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>, Szabolcs Hubai <szab.hu@gmail.com>, INAGAKI
<owrt-snap-builds> Hiroshi <musashino.open@gmail.com>
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<ynezz> nbd: from your mail it's not clear which wolfssl version bump breaked the ABI, was it the latest 4.5.0 -> 4.6.0 ?
<Borromini> nbd: you might be right about there still being issues with MT7613 and radar detection, it seems one of my APs is now seeing radar events on channel 36 (5180 MHz). I guess it's seeing neighbouring APs and wrongfully thinks that's radar stuff? https://paste.debian.net/1184504/ - the weird thing is the other test AP is on channel 36 as well and no DFS error messages like these there yet. that one
<Borromini> has been brought up earlier though. I've seen it complain about possible radars on channel 52 as well yesterday, which other APs are using, and they just stay on that channel without radar reports.
<Borromini> sorry for the wall of text.
<ynezz> nbd: it would be nice if you could find some time and report it to wolfssl, they're quire responsive. wolfssl also think, that the current versions remain backward compatible https://github.com/wolfSSL/wolfssl/issues/3709#issuecomment-771746537
<ynezz> nbd: it might help them during consideration of some kind of stable releases/security backports
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<nbd> ynezz: latest broke the ABI, but that wasn't the cause of my runtime issues
<nbd> ynezz: the bigger issue is that openwrt config changes affect the ABI too
<ynezz> lechner: ^
<ynezz> yep, but as you said, they're probably not diffing every possible config combination
<ynezz> which might provide quite different results
<ynezz> nbd: I've added your links to that issue https://github.com/wolfSSL/wolfssl/issues/3709#issuecomment-775090227
<figgyc> i'm doing some debugging for a spi-nor flash chip. is there a good way to send and recieve raw commands to/from it from inside openwrt? or will i need to hook it up to an external device eg a raspberry pi and do it from there? Thanks
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<PaulFertser> figgyc: it's probably easier to connect it to rpi and use flashrom to check if the chip is good, what ID it has etc.
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<figgyc> cool thanks
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<PaulFertser> figgyc: depends on what kind of debugging you're doing of course, and what does the kernel spinor driver prints you currently.
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<nbd> Borromini: it shouldn't even be running the radar detector on channel 36
<nbd> since it's not a DFS channel
<PaulFertser> figgyc: spi is not really command-oriented protocol, but you can write a simple userspace application using spidev to transmit/receive whatever you want. Shouldn't be needed with a regular m25p80 device.
<figgyc> yea I'm aware - not planning on looking at data, specifically just some obscure technical details about manufacturer ID's and stuff
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<PaulFertser> figgyc: flashrom also supports jlink, ft232 and ch341 devices for that purpose, if you have one handy probably that'd be faster.
<nbd> ynezz: in general, even if wolfssl aims to remain ABI compatible, i'm still worried about the failure case if an ABI change is missed
<nbd> hard to debug segfaults or data corruption is so much worse than some extra churn on the buildbots
<ynezz> nbd: I've nothing against your proposal
<ynezz> it doesn't matter if it's wolfssl, openssl or mbedtls
<ynezz> or any other library
<Borromini> nbd: no, it shouldn't. might https://paste.debian.net/1184533/ play a role here? (is_mt7663 was replaced by mt7615_firmware_offload)
<Borromini> ie the filter for mt7663 isn't needed anymore once dfs is enabled for that as well right?
<Borromini> so just line 4 & 5 would suffice in that case i think?
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<Borromini> nbd: i removed the if clause and now 36 isn't scanned for radar signals anymore. still seems to mistake other APs for radars, from what I can tell though. when you got time to have me test stuff or anything, let me know.
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<Hauke> There is a new vurnability in wolfssl, CVE-2021-3336 the linked pull request is not yet merged, should we integrate it into openwrt anyway?
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<blogic> aparcar[m]: ;)
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<blogic> I am worried about htis wolfssl convergence
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<blogic> why not stay with ossl an dride the CVE wave as all other distros do
<blogic> *and ride*
<Borromini> frankly, i'm happy I moved my 16 MiB flash devices to openssl, seeing the wolfssl mess every time
<blogic> i role ossl always
<Borromini> blogic: openssl isn't a sensible option for 8 MiB devices I think... not when you need SSL for wpad etc
<blogic> well, its a crap vs crap formula
<blogic> sahll we support any old device or try to provide sane functionality
<blogic> it suddenly converges into a philosophical discussion
<blogic> sorry about the typos, fat finger + android display
<Borromini> no i understand. the middle ground is difficult.
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<blogic> options are good but the question is what shall be the default
<stintel> WEP
* stintel hides
<Hauke> OpenSSL is the ssl lib with the best security support in my opineon
<Hauke> but it needs much more memory
<Hauke> compared to wolfssl and mbedtls
<karlp> wolfssl's openssl compat api layer is/was pretty flaky too. does it even still exist?
<karlp> I've not tried using it for a while, and it was just not worth even trying.
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<dorf> ugh. debugging Luci is an absolute pain in the ass.
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<dorf> I see an element is off, and by the time I've highlighted it in the developer console to examine it, bingo, gone, ajax refreshed.
<dorf> And if I disable ajax, the element doesn't even display. Horrible.
<dorf> What would be 30s to correct in any sane interface takes minutes.
<dorf> The absence of a configuration option in the UI to determine refresh interval should be fixed.
<dorf> The whole model of using javascript to draw html elements is whack.
<dorf> pause at execution was what I wanted. what a dance to correct alignment!
<ynezz> speaking of wolfssl, the same could be said about dnsmasq, dropbear, uhttpd, <put anything network facing with "micro" in description here>
<karlp> well, dnsmasq is actually _used_ heavily by heappppps of people inside container world
<karlp> woflssl.... not so much?
<karlp> uhttpd, way even less?
<ynezz> "I've written a Cryptofuzz module that tests their cryptography API. 7000 lines of harnessing code. I honestly can't think of any software that is fuzzed so deeply."
<ynezz> that's about wolfssl BTW
<ynezz> that guy is author of opkg mitm CVE
<ynezz> and I assume this CVEs are result of this effort
<hurricos> ynezz: so this sweat over wolfssl convergence is basically just this one guy eating the whole thing for breakfast and heading to the loo?
<hurricos> good for wolfssl, beat the CVEs out early
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<karlp> meh, if it gets beaten on, it will get beaten on,
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