<Grommish>
karlp: people don't realize it's not a "if" something will be broken, but how, and how badly. No "security" solution stands up against time and persistence
<Grommish>
Even air-gapped systems are vulnerable to side-channel exfil of data if they really want it and have the time
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<karlp>
I think we agree :)
<karlp>
I was trying to say that it might be nice if wolfssl has some fuzzing, but if it gets used a lot, it will get targetted and broken.
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<Grommish_>
Borromimi: does it count if he solved it with fire? :D
<rsalvaterra>
Borromini: I wouldn't consider disabling GTK offloading a solution. It's a workaround. Of course, if there's a hardware bug preventing GTK offloading from working correctly at all, we have no other choice but to settle for the workaround. :/
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<Namidairo>
looks like someone submitted a patch to disable GTK offload on a different chip
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<Namidairo>
although by the wording of the description
<Namidairo>
couldn't the bug be of similar severity to when those broadcom chipsets were sending out frames with zeroed keys
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<blocktrron>
Namidairo: MT7610 is a differenzt story
<blocktrron>
I've only had a quick look at the rekeying issue on MT7915 and frames are not sent out unencrypted as observed on mt7610
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<blocktrron>
For MT7610 i consider disabling GTK offloading until (if anytime) a fix is found, as it is security relevant from my PoV
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<Namidairo>
but is it cve worthy heh
<Borromini>
rsalvaterra: what's the avastar story? everyone probably knows about linksys by now :P
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<rsalvaterra>
Borromini: Not mine, fortunately. But I have a friend who got a WRT1200AC and is pissed off because WPA3 doesn't work (nor WPA2 with PMF, for that matter).
<Borromini>
i see Avastar is one of the Marvell controllers
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<pmelange>
Hi everyone, I have currently noticed something with opkg (and imagebulder) which I find strange. If I run "opkg install batctl-full kmod-batman-adv" then I get the following packages installed (kmod-crypto-hash kmod-lib-crc16 kmod-crypto-crc32c kmod-lib-crc32c librt batctl-full kmod-batman-adv). But if I rearrange the order to "opkg install
<pmelange>
kmod-batman-adv batctl-full" then I get all those above listed packages and in addition batctl-tiny. I feel like opkg (and imagebuilder) should be checking if all to-be-installed packages meet the dependencies requirements before deciding to install other packages automatically. What are your opinions?
<pmelange>
So, yes, both batctl-full and batctl-tiny get installed.
<Grommish_>
pmelange: The kmod probably only REQUIRES the tiny version, which will be preferred by those who have limited space
<Grommish_>
If you tell it to install the full, it will, even if you already have the tiny because it's a different package
<pmelange>
kmod-batman-adv only depends on batctl, which is provided by batctl-tiny, batctl-full, and batctl-default.
<Grommish_>
You could report it as a possible issue though, if it's a dep issue it can be corrected
<pmelange>
I think it would be an issue because the just by putting the kmod first and batctl-full second, I get an extra package which is not needed.
<Grommish_>
I do know that the dependency system cannot turn OFF packages based on the selection of a package
<Grommish_>
So it couldn't check to see if -tiny was install when you install -full
<codehero>
Hi all, I recently upgraded from 17.06 to 19.07 but I have found that luci now requires luci-opkg which now requires opkg to be installed. Is there a way to build an image with luci but not with opkg?
<damex>
i just notice that something changed over last 1~1.5month (haven't touched edgerouter 4 since) - now new installs using initramfs is not possible.
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<Borromini>
damex: how do you mean?
<damex>
Borromini: i remember testing er4 before and booting from initramfs detect all the hardware. now i got report from forums (and recheck fresh initramfs by myself) - if i boot it - there is none of this extras present and no usb work anymore
<damex>
all happen recently
<damex>
so something definitely changed
<damex>
i even tried setting up network and installing all necessary usb/storage packages to make usb work and ... it does not ;/
<Borromini>
ok
<Borromini>
i installed quite a few months ago so can't say (and it's my edge router atm, can't test)
<damex>
yeah, i can just that you should not upgrade till it gets solved
<Borromini>
ok. i'm running r15661 now, which i pretty recent
<Borromini>
(i sysupgrade every few weeks)
<damex>
Borromini: can you try to see if usb works for you?
<Borromini>
this build is a week old more or less
<Borromini>
sure
<damex>
if my case - i see that everything but usb works and usb is crucial to get it runing in the first place for a new user
<ynezz>
maybe we should paste it here to find out the screen users :p
<damex>
> DEVICE_PACKAGES are ignored on initramfs images when CONFIG_TARGET_MULTI_PROFILE, CONFIG_TARGET_PER_DEVICE_ROOTFS and CONFIG_TARGET_ALL_PROFILES are set
<damex>
great
<tmn505>
yep
<tmn505>
so OpenWrt initramfs images won't be usable for installation
<tmn505>
from OpenWrt downloads.
<damex>
so i guess we will have to make usb support built in
<tmn505>
probably
<Borromini>
damex: so that's a recent change to the initramfs functionality then?
<damex>
Borromini: not sure, i think we hit a big mentioned by tmn505
<tmn505>
or fix? the generation of initramfs images
<damex>
not sure what makes usb non-function when you install all necessary packages from DEVICE_PACKAGES list and usb still does not work
<damex>
tmn505: i guess it is not that simple
<tmn505>
You could use opkg to install the missing packages but You'll have to manually load modules and not always when installing You have access to internet.
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<damex>
tmn505: just tried. manually install packages + manually load modules -> no usb devices detected
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<tmn505>
so yeah, compile the modules inside kernel image.
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<damex>
found culprit - now seem to need a dedicated dwc3 package to make usb work
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<damex>
so built in >_>
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<damex>
Borromini: mind upgrading to a new build (with usb built in instead of external packages) to help getting fix merged sooner?
<Borromini>
damex: i might already be running built-in usb. let me check my config
<Borromini>
running my own builds
<damex>
oh
<Borromini>
i'll check my .config though
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<damex>
Borromini: btw how is the er4?
<Borromini>
damex: i'm happy with it but i'm not really taxing it (i only have 100/40 :P )
<Borromini>
might be because i'm using TARGET_PER_DEVICE_ROOTFS, diffconfig isn't showing anything about dwc as you can see from the pastebin
<Borromini>
i'm building for the ER Lite and the ER4
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<hurricos>
ER4 is OCTEONIII, right?
<Borromini>
think so
<hurricos>
I've been trying to get OpenWrt to boot on a LiquidIO NIC and it always hangs when initializing ports, I think I need to add to some cvmx struct so it doesn't do that :\
<hurricos>
but wish I could speak to someone with the knowledge there
<hurricos>
It *is* quite funny it gets as far as it does before crashing though. And with an initramfs from the wrong board, too :^)
<plntyk>
iirc some octeon isnt that supported because the some cpu-variants have some custom extensions which are not documented publicly
<hurricos>
Oh whaaaat, you mean the AAP crap at the end or something?
<hurricos>
I know some of them have custom subsystem stuff. Like ... they leave some spare silicon and craft in extra application processors.
<hurricos>
and otoh I know octeon mips64 is ... weird. I did also see e.g. one of the Edgerouter's builds being disabled due to some
<hurricos>
well point being, everything they make is special.
<hurricos>
I was watching the U-boot side of this -- fwiw the guy who originally did the U-boot work and who is taking another run at merging it to mainline is uh
<hurricos>
planning on throwing away CN66XX and earlier.
<hurricos>
I have a CN66XX-SNIC10E-G.
<hurricos>
So I'm betting they're going to throw away anything earlier and bring everything that actually officially works under Liquidio. There's already been uh
<Borromini>
hurricos: EdgeRouter Lite is CN5130 or sth
<stintel>
system type : UBNT_E100 (CN5020p1.1-500-SCP)
<stintel>
= ERL
<joaohcca>
Hi I've been working in a port for COMFAST CF-E375AC from target ar71xx to ath79. I've managed to get radios, leds and network ports working. But the kernel is giving me some messages that may indicate problems that I have not found a solution yet. This device has an external wdt connected to the main processor, on boot up the kernel print [
<joaohcca>
1.673743] ath79-wdt 18060008.wdt: unable to register misc device, err=-16
<joaohcca>
[ 1.680991] ath79-wdt: probe of 18060008.wdt failed with error -16 . another issue that I've seen on 19.07.4 and 18.06.6 after flash I've messages related to jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): End of filesystem marker found at 0x0.
<joaohcca>
I'm not sure how to fix these, so any ideas are welcomed. I'll be updating my PR to latest master in a few hours, the code is available here https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/3319
<Borromini>
stintel: you got an ERL?
<stintel>
Borromini: I have 2
<stintel>
Borromini: one of them is my backup router here, the 2nd one is degraded to test device
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<dangole>
Hauke: layerscape build should be fixed, I contacted mediatek and asked them to replace the blob 'bromtool' which linked against libopenssl...
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<Grommish_>
Marvell hasn't supported Octeon3 sinvcer th 4.14 kernel and their SDK is a joke
<Grommish_>
but the mainline kernel has enough support for everything to run, and the 5.x has the correct ethernet drivers in it at least
<Grommish_>
Even their uboot repo won't build out
<Grommish_>
besides.. OpenWrt doesn't support Octeon3 either :) Rolls with Octeonplus
<Grommish_>
I couldn't convince anyone to break off the octeon3 from octeonplus
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<tmn505>
joaohcca: in the dtsi You are including there's node for ath79 watchdog (https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/ath79/dts/qca956x.dtsi;h=6489efbf0b0201f64c7cb61aa8000f094f70f4af;hb=HEAD#l102), disable or delete that nod in Your dts.
<Borromini>
Grommish: as a (sub)target you mean?
<Grommish>
Borromini: as it's own target.. Like Octeonx vs octeon targets. the octeon targets are set for octeonplus (Octeon 1.5)
<Grommish>
rather than octeon3.. There wasn't enough of a need to justify it before ERLite and even then
<Grommish>
er ER4, sorry
<tmn505>
joaohcca: does the ath79 image You flashed has problems with overlay, meaning does it keep modified settings, added files, etc?
<Grommish>
I was overriding it locally, but it means I can't use the pkg repos due to the arch differences
<Grommish>
So I just gave up on it and ran with octeonplus
<Borromini>
:)
<Borromini>
you need lots of upstream packages? i just build my own subset (standard arch settings though)
<joaohcca>
tmn505 if I recall correctly removing the wdt node would cause the device to enter a bootloop. I've maanged to keep settings when flashing new images with luci
<Grommish>
So, we have Octeon3 targets that don't use it
<Grommish>
I was supporting the device users outside of OpenWrt before it was merged
<Grommish>
so I was building with CONFIG_ALL
<Borromini>
oh
<Grommish>
and hosting the entire repo on github with a custom feed
<tmn505>
joaohcca: so that jffs2 marker is not an issue
<Grommish>
I couldn't justify to anyone the resources to create a new target, which was understandable.. just so people realize we aren't using octeon3 targets, just octeonplus
<joaohcca>
tmn505 I'll double check just in case as I haven't mess with it for a while now. but thanks for the feedback
<Grommish>
and I never got to find an answer to if I leave the -march=octeon+ if I can use -mtune=octeon3 and still have the ipk repos work
<Grommish>
i get a No Valid Arch error if I set start octeon3 as the arch
<Grommish>
but, if they are going to bring back more devices in the future, maybe it'll have to revisited
<Grommish>
because my devices uses the cn7020aap1.2rev2 SoC (I believe offhand)
<Borromini>
:)
<Borromini>
the ER4 has a CN7xxx CPU as well I believe
<Grommish>
and the ER4 does too
<Grommish>
Right
<Grommish>
Still wasn't enough to convince a target split.. wasn't worth the extra build resources
<pmelange>
Cool, thank you. I'm going to go update the wiki page.
<pmelange>
do you have "Arch / Manjaro" or "Debian / Ubuntu"
<grift>
Fedora
<pmelange>
"CentOS / Fedora" already has python3 in the "Prerequisites" section. Can anybody confirm the other two?
<Grommish>
Anyone have decent electronics experience by any chance?
<Grommish>
My device has the pads in place for a mini PCIE header (52 pin).. I'm wondeirng just how much of a PITA it would be to drop that on it.. they aren't thru-holes, just pads and fairly large
<Borromini>
pmelange: i can't vouch for debian stable (which has python pointing to python2 still) but debian bullseye (next stable, in a few months probably) will have no python2.
<hurricos>
This is all cool info, thank you. RE: mPCIe header: careful, if the SoC doesn't agree with it it simply won't work. There's also lots of supporting hw usually needing to be added
<Grommish>
It was designed to be on there in the second run of the device, but the company went under before hand
<Grommish>
But yeah, I'm not sure if they finished getting it ready or not
<hurricos>
oh that's not bad
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<hurricos>
not hard at all either. watch Louis Rossmann. You pre-seed the pads with some solder blobs with a nice run, then you place the header and heatgun it
<Grommish>
the pads are there, I'd have to mount it.. I found the header for it as well.. I just don't know if it'll be "that easy"
<hurricos>
but don't try to go one by one
<hurricos>
you will die
<Grommish>
*nod* BGA style was the thought on pre-tinning
<pkgadd>
soldering the header won't be fun to begin with, but chances are quite high that you'll find (or rather not find) missing supporting components or PCB routing bugs
<Grommish>
I like Rossman :)
<hurricos>
he is a great teacher
<hurricos>
yeah, what is the board anyway?
<Grommish>
Itus Network Shield
<hurricos>
missing U2.
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<ynezz>
flux and soldering iron, done
<hurricos>
no wonder they went under
<hurricos>
they used Cavium
<hurricos>
:^)
<Grommish>
They actually had too many ordered to soon and couldn't deliver
<Grommish>
Sad really, its great kit
<Grommish>
I have 2 hehe
<ynezz>
Grommish: youtube for flux/drag soldering
<pkgadd>
it's one of those things where I'd usually answer with, if you have to ask about it, you won't be able to get it done ;)
<Grommish>
pkgadd: yeah, I know.. :D but I have a reflow station and a roll of kapton
<Grommish>
ynezz: Thank you!
<Grommish>
Worse case is I brick the device beyond recovery which would suck
<Grommish>
Wonder if I can get someone to do it for me
<ynezz>
nearby hackerspace
<Grommish>
*nod*
<ynezz>
but it's really easy, you can practice on some old components
<Grommish>
THose I have in spades.. I've got laptop graveyards
<Grommish>
Thanks again for not just eye rolling and laughing :)
<Grommish>
The headers are 2.17 plus whatever for shipping, so it wouldn't be expensive
<Borromini>
i think you're courageous. and you only learn by doing, in general
<pkgadd>
unless the magic smoke escape on the first test
<Grommish>
I love the sell of a straight short in the morning?
<Grommish>
:D
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<Grommish>
err smell
<ynezz>
then you've earned your first smoking pcb badge