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<damex> Hauke: is there a vendor firmware or that vendor kit from cavium or something you can extract a correct dts from?
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<damex> Grommish: we can split after (and that is if) we add more devices. need to get a hold of edgerouter 6p and find about bringing up that weird switch platform on er12/er12p
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<damex> i don't think there is any other platform with octeon3 i could get
<damex> actually debian themself use octeon board for building but that boards are next to impossible to get
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<rsalvaterra> Am I reading this right…? https://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=161294684826530&w=4
<rsalvaterra> "QCN9074 uses 45MB of host ddr memory."
<rsalvaterra> And here I was thinking ath10k was a memory hog and ath11k could only improve…
<rsalvaterra> Oh, and 45 MB in *physically contiguous* chunks of 2 MB. Peachy.
<blogic> rsalvaterra: yes
<blogic> rsalvaterra: a 1GB ram unit will OOM at ~120 clients
<blogic> rsalvaterra: there is also 16 mb reserved for uboot and 64 for the NSS 4 more for smem, another 8 for core dumps for the wmac ....
<blogic> so a 512mb unit one it is up has ~360mb free ram ;) rest is hogged by the HW
<rsalvaterra> blogic: How's MT79xx in comparison?
<blogic> nice
<blogic> has it running with 256 clients attached pumping traffic on a 512mb unit
<blogic> also traffic was more stable
<blogic> problem right now with mt7622 is that the hw is only just appearing on the market
<rsalvaterra> So, so what are the QCA guys smoking? And where can I get it?
<blogic> and the uboot is shitty, however dangole is working on a uboot replacement that has ubi support
<blogic> so 2-3 months down the road mtk should be in a fit state, I am already running my network on mt7915
<blogic> linksys e8450 is a nice unit
<blogic> however needs to be imported from the states, not sold in EU
<rsalvaterra> My Omnia with two QCA9880 hovers at about 120 MiB of RAM used. My Redmi RM2100 (MT7603 + MT7615) is using just under 60 MiB.
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<numero53> blogic: In Europe there is the Belkin RT3200 that should be the same exact router rebranded. I bought it from Amazon UK (I live in Italy)
<numero53> Is your nand working correctly? I have problems with JFFS2 corrupting often... I tried the nbd's tree (which contains your work I think) and I have the same problem...
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<ynezz> 90 EUR nice
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<ynezz> looking at the DTS of e8450 there seems to be 2nd uart2, is that free/accessible on the board somehow?
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<ynezz> sata, hm
<ynezz> spi0 seems to be used for nand, is that 2nd spi1 free/accessible as well?
<ynezz> looks like interesting device for that price
<stintel> that odroid with 2x RTLunsupportedsomething is such a bummer
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<karlp> never going to get supported with that attitude ;)
<stintel> hehe :P
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<numero53> ynezz: Surely there wasn't a sata port accessible on the board... Probably another uart or spi at most. There were 10 holes and some of them were powered with different voltages, but I didn't investigate further
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<adrianschmutzler> Hi, I have stupid question
<adrianschmutzler> In file header for license or comments, it's frequently the case that the header is followed by an empty commit line, just "#"
<adrianschmutzler> Is there a reason for that, or is that just the taste of the person who wrote it?
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<Pepe> mangix: Do you think that we can enable this feature https://github.blog/changelog/2020-12-16-pull-request-auto-merge-public-beta/ for packages repository? It'd be good for some cases.
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<grift> adrianschmutzler: this might help: https://spdx.dev/license-list/matching-guidelines/
<grift> i guess this: "Ignore any text that occurs after the obvious end of the license and does not include substantive text of the license"
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<xback> blogic: Any luck on the rb912? I'm curious ;-)
<hurricos> Grommish: I got it booting :')
<hurricos> Rebuilding now with an actual frequency for the serial console in the .dts so that it inits properly so i can talk to it over serial.
<hurricos> But I just disabled octeon ethernet drivers and it's able to bot up
<hurricos> boot up*
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<hurricos> any tips for debugging a non-cooperative console?
<hurricos> wait. stdin isn't connected. T_T
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<aparcar[m]> adrianschmutzler: while touching all these files for spex, please consider updating the year to whatever year the file was last updated
<aparcar[m]> *spdx
<grift> also you can use spdx for the copyright notice as well (that is what i do)
<grift> 2 ;; SPDX-FileCopyrightText: © 2021 Dominick Grift <dominick.grift@defensec.nl>
<grift> 3 ;; SPDX-License-Identifier: Unlicense
<adrianschmutzler> I see this as a mere replacement, and do not think changing the date is really necessary there. In contrast, changing the copyright date is actually making this much more complicated, as we have seen when discussing your PR.
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<Hauke> damex: I have never used Cavium devices
<Hauke> blogic: is Belkin RT3200 (mt7622 + mt7915) with 4x4 2.4GHz wifi (mt7622) + 4x4 5GHz (mt7915)?
<Hauke> which switch is used=
<Hauke> looks like it is this combination
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<numero53> Hauke: Your specs are correct
<numero53> The switch is the MT7531
<philipp64> how much retesting is required when cherry-picking fixes into 19.07?
<philipp64> there doesn't seem to be any automated tests and I don't have a testbed I can easily reflash and test on...
<adrianschmutzler> depends on the nature of the change, obviously ...
<blogic> numero53: ok, let me check that out
<blogic> thanks for the pointer
<blogic> numero53: not on prime ...
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<numero53> yes
<blogic> will investigate
<blogic> I aked a US based friend to send me 10 additional unit after he sent 4 already
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<blogic> the pita is that the wan port uses the mt7531 switch which only doe 1gbit
<blogic> so even if the wireless can do beyond that you can only trunk 1gbit on fiber
<blogic> Hauke: its mt7531 ...
<blogic> been running the unit with wifi6 on 4 deployments over the last week and evryone is happy
<blogic> yet the 2G is the built-in mt7622/7615 11n wmac
<blogic> so no huge 2g rates
<blogic> oh and the serial is a 1,5m pitch molex, so one needs a special molex2duponmt cable for usb serial
<blogic> still a pretty f'in cool unit for that price
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<blogic> and we already booted it with 2021.4 uboot + a small amount of patches, so we can prolly drop the shitty mtk bmt-v2 nand wear leveling layer soonish and just do ubo on the spi-nand
<blogic> *ubi
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<blogic> fun fact, the stock webui consumes raw owrt stylw sysupgrade images
<blogic> *style
<blogic> images buildable from nbd's staging tree with v5.10
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<Borromini> blogic: are you talking about the linksys e8450?
<blogic> numero53: ordered a unit from the uk, import tax will be a pain, but really wanna see if it is also easy to flash
<blogic> Borromini: yes
<Borromini> :)
<blogic> Borromini: first mtk wifi6 unit i found that is not atf/rsa locked
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<Borromini> :)
<blogic> the HW can handle 280 sta/phy
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<blogic> however there is curently a race between HW and FW
<Borromini> what's atf? are you talking about the bootloader not being crippled?
<blogic> so right now we can only do 127 STA as the top most bit is used for paging and drv/fw are racing on it
<blogic> ATF arm trust firmware
<Borromini> oh, i see
<Borromini> so that's what all those recent master commits are
<blogic> however i tested the unit in my 2 candeltech chambers and at 127 sta I am seeing that it performs like a charm
<blogic> Borromini: correct
<blogic> MTK provided their blobs for dram calib under the same redistib license as their wifi fw blobs
<blogic> the rest is just ATF + uboot
<blogic> .ch started their new year yesterday, its over on the 16th, we will get an update spi-nand driver after that
<blogic> fooyah, finally a sane wifi6 target for owrt
<blogic> oh, they also provided openocd scripts for the latest SoC, so a 10 euto ftdi jtag 245 can be used fo flah them
<blogic> *to flash
<blogic> .. via the bootrom
<numero53> blogic: Woo there is a lot of cool stuff!
<blogic> numero53: it really is
<numero53> However for the serial port in the Belkin I managed to use standard dupont with a little of force and they stay almost still.
<numero53> I can confirm that is easily flashable via standard OEM fw upgrade
<blogic> numero53: yeah, dupont works I was lazy and ordered the correct cabke
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<blogic> numero53: https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/nbd.git;a=summary has full support for the unit
<blogic> https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/nbd.git;a=commit;h=95897c984c294680210d677c842f24f7d82180d4 specifically
<blogic> you might run into spurious jffs2 errors, that will be fixed within 2-4 weeks once we have the new ubi pattern spi-nand driver
<Borromini> blogic: neat.
<numero53> Thanks, I already tried that tree... I have also created a thread about the previously unkown flash chip... later on it evolved in the JFFS2 problem thread: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/adding-new-spi-nand-device-support-belkin-rt3200-and-linksys-e8450/84423/14
<blogic> numero53: yeah, read that, it boils down to some crap in the hw eec, post chinese ne year one of the mtk devs promised to gpl the latest driver that they have that apparently fixes the problem
<blogic> so close, my fingers are tingelining
<Hauke> I ordered one unit on amazon uk, I think amazon will take care of taxes at least they chared me ~10£ for that
<ynezz> +1 :p
<numero53> blogic: thanks a lot for the great news! :)
<Hauke> blogic: do you have the TP link unit with the same specs? does it use secure boot?
<blogic> there is a unit it uses secure boot, we manged to hack into the stage 1 uboot but it has been obfuscated, the stage 2 uboot is rsa locked
<blogic> i tried the usual webui injection crap but gave up
<blogic> been talking to tplink about it and might find a vector to owrt'ify it
<Hauke> ok, so the Belkin is the better device for now
<blogic> I emphazied to them that this i not cool and newer units should not be shit-craped
<blogic> Hauke: correct
<blogic> there is also a adtran unit that will hit market shortly
<Hauke> also to the EU or only US?
<blogic> no idea
<blogic> i just ordered one of the uk units
<Hauke> looks promising when now multiple vendors have mt7622 + mt7915 devices in the market
<Hauke> I was wondering why there were only so few mt7622 devices on the market before
<ynezz> no official openwrt support :p
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<blogic> Hauke: so production capacity is locked down in .ch till end of the year
<blogic> huawei bought all of it
<blogic> there is a huge production traffic jam in .ch
<Hauke> The belkin devices has Samba 3.6 in the source code delivery, if this is on the device and they would use secure boot I have the right to get the key ;-)
<blogic> this is for cpe as well as silicon
<Hauke> yes I know of the delays in the chip production
<hurricos> here it is
<hurricos> {"model":{"id":"snic10e","name":"SNIC10E (CN6640p1.2-800-AAP)"},"network":{"lan":{"ifname":"eth0","protocol":"static"},"wan":{"ifname":"eth1","protocol":"dhcp"}}}
<Hauke> or betetr long lead times
<blogic> qca ipq601x, lead time 40 weeks ;)
<Hauke> ok thats is very huge
<blogic> corona hit us hard ;)
<ynezz> eh
<blogic> well fabs shut down for 6 weeks, home office created a 20% influx on demand for embedded devices
<blogic> human kind biggest deficiency is the mis understanding of the exponential function ;)
<Hauke> people do not buy services any more, but devices
<Hauke> and our stupid automotive industry cancled their orders in spring 2020 and is now suprised they get less supply
<blogic> hah
<blogic> imagine that
<blogic> but the industry is driven by ppl that used to sell washing machines based in xls sheets
<Hauke> but they get government subsidies now
<Hauke> yes
<blogic> such a precise description of the problem
<blogic> well, hell has a special room for them ...
<blogic> long story short, mtk will give owrt functional wifi6 within the next few months, based fully on upstream code
<blogic> so, who are we to complain ....
<Borromini> that sounds neat
<blogic> Borromini: it really does ...
<blogic> ok, of to test if that square thing in my bedroom is still as comfy as last night ...
<blogic> l8r
<philipp64> MTK... will it be 2.3.32 based???? :-O
<blogic> philipp64: shame on you
<philipp64> what are they shipping these days?
<blogic> running v5.10.6 on it ...
<blogic> they are shipping v5.4 in the sdk
<philipp64> and why don't they have a common code base across all platforms?
<blogic> philipp64: polemic ...
<philipp64> wow. that's quite the shake-up.
<Hauke> this belkin devices uses 4.4.198
<philipp64> last time I looked at the 7621 (or whatever) for wireless home security systems it was something ancient.
<blogic> Hauke: yeah its the pre-alpha sdk
<Hauke> ok, but nice that they updated the SDK
<philipp64> but that was 5 years ago.
<philipp64> still...
<blogic> Hauke: based on the lede release
<Hauke> but normally vendors do not take this
<Hauke> the companies that build the boxes normally stay at the kernel version they started with
<blogic> Hauke: correct
<blogic> they get a snapshot of version X of the BSP/SDK and nevr really update it
<blogic> yet another problem that we need to create awareness for
<Hauke> yes this is a general problem in the hardware industry, not even google has the balls to update the major kernel version on their Pixel phones
<blogic> Hauke: ;)
<blogic> we will get there eventually
<blogic> owrt is after all a bastion in the true school foss space
<blogic> one of the last few remaining ones
<Hauke> you have to decouple the hardware from the software, like it is in the server market
<aparcar[m]> Well we're scared to update our core infrastructure
<Hauke> then you will get good update support
<blogic> Hauke: yup
<Hauke> aparcar[m]: but we haev an image for the wrt54gs with kernel 5.4 and not 2.4.20
<aparcar[m]> I guess the product not the process matters
<blogic> pfff
<blogic> owrt is actually not about the sw but about the mentality of the people behind it
<Hauke> is the meeting tomorrow at 8PM CET or 7PM CET (The time zone of Germany)?
<blogic> we can drop any piece of code and rely on the ppl behind the project to create a better solution (except the kernel obviously)
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<blogic> Hauke: send a mail announcing it ...
<blogic> wer baut der haut
<aparcar[m]> Hauke: I think it's in a mail from yesterday
<Hauke> ok
<Grommish> Pepe: Thanks for cleaning up that PR. I appreciate it
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<mirko> blogic: erst der filter macht die farben
<grift> google translate sucks
<grift> but yes i think community (hobby) project like openwrt is strenght and weakness
<grift> its an organic organism, and it grows towards the sun light
<grift> theres only one thing that really matters though
<grift> have fun
<grift> but sometimes i do wonder if the end result would benefit from some central and non-biased oversight
<grift> because you have these individual little islands, people doing their own thing but theres no clear direction it seems
<grift> its an aorchestra without a director
<grift> anyhow ,who cares, just enjoy hacking and if you cant enjoy it anymore move on
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<aparcar[m]> Hauke: I think thursday is the 11th :O
<Hauke> aparcar[m]: yes you are right ;-)
<Hauke> aparcar[m]: do you want to moderate the meeting tomorrow?
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<aparcar[m]> I'm a bit unsure with the prios, should we have a short talk before to figure out what makes the most sense?
<aparcar[m]> The length of the topic list exceeds 60 minutes by quite a bit
<aparcar[m]> Hauke: e.g. now?
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<Tapper> Hi can the rest of the buttons be fixt in the rest of luci like this PR pleas. https://github.com/openwrt/luci/commit/34417400893d8513f92c4e4ba3a1b8c9207a5392
<Tapper> I did not realize that save and apply button is broken. through out most of luci.
<pkgadd> Tapper: probably, yes - but the remaining broken cases need to be found/ reported and fixed individually
<pkgadd> personally, with the packages set I'm using, I haven't noticed any broken cases in quite a while
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<hurricos> grift: I have to say, there are a lot of sticklers and those sticklers keep the product pretty professional and supportable
<hurricos> or perhaps there seem to be a lot of them. the importance of that is great.
<Tapper> pkgadd: is that OK?
<Tapper> pkgadd: those were the ones that I could find..
<pkgadd> Tapper: are you sure about adblock? that seems to be fine to me
<Tapper> Yes pkgadd the Save & Apply button does not work for me.
<pkgadd> seems to be fine for me
<Tapper> I don't use luci-app-wireguard and luci-app-advanced-reboot on my r7800. advanced-reboot worked for me tho on the wrt3200acm.
<Tapper> pkgadd: remember I am using a screen reader so if that one is about how it looks I will not get it.
<pkgadd> yeah, I realize that there might be differences in that regard
<Tapper> pkgadd: sorry I should of read more.
<Tapper> It seems most of the ones I was on about have bin pointed out.
<Tapper> The packages anyway.
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<mangix> Pepe: I don't have control over such things
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<hurricos> Got SFP+ ports working under OpenWrt on my CN6640-SNIC10E card :)
<hurricos> there was a CSR poke that Cavium's ethernet driver does but which was noted to hang CN6880-based cards
<hurricos> looks like they never checked CN6640
<hurricos> since this code is shared with the cavium simple executive this could also be the bug that is preventing the CSE from working on these cards? not sure
<hurricos> or rather liquidio from working on these cards*
<hurricos> but I can't recompile that :\
<owrt-snap-builds> build #775 of layerscape/armv8_64b is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/builders/layerscape%2Farmv8_64b/builds/775