<urandom_>
no problem, have to get some slepp now anyway
<rejon>
word
<Textmode>
still building ;_;
<pitanga>
Hi! I just flashed the most recent version of openwrt to my ben nanonote. Gmenu seems cool... but how do i f%#$ing _click_ lol?
<Textmode>
pitanga: szdx are mapped to the face buttons gmenu wants.
<Textmode>
pitanga: q and r are mapped to the shoulder buttons.
<Textmode>
pitanga: I believe enter and tab are start and select.
<pitanga>
Textmode: thanks!
<Textmode>
pitanga: note, thats because gmenu has been remapped, if you play a genuine dingux binary...
<xdpirate>
kyak, thanks for the build last night, but I was away from the keyboard and now the link doesn't work :P
<xdpirate>
Any one else caught the ne build? =)
<xakh>
wait how new is the new build?
<xdpirate>
xakh, a build of ne (nice editor)
<xakh>
ohhh
<kyak>
xdpirate: you here?
<xdpirate>
kyak, yeah :D
<kyak>
please check again :)
<kyak>
xdpirate: sorry, my internet was broken
<kyak>
you can try now
<xdpirate>
kyak, thanks, works :)
<kyak>
good :) i'm wrapping it now into Makefile
<xdpirate>
i'm out for now, cya
<tuxbrain>
rafa: also need the following packages python-gtk2 , and I don't know what package/s that provides re.py, sre_compile.py ,sre_constants.py ,sre_parse.py
<tuxbrain>
I think this will enable a lot of phytons gtk apps out there.
<xakh>
Tuxbrain: I never could get leafpad ported over, you think you can handle it for me?
<tuxbrain>
xakh: no promises, I hope any of the happy compilers here can be quicker than I, btw what was the problems you have found
<xakh>
I have no idea. ._.
<xakh>
I can't figure out head or tail of the whole thing.
<xakh>
the two things I wanna get working on it are leafpad and netsurf though
<calamarz>
has someone seen scummvm working on NN?
<tuxbrain>
calamarz: I think zear have make it working , just using the dingux one, rafa the scummvm on the Jlime repos complains about "WARNING: SDL_SetVideoMode says we can't switch to that mode (No video mode large enough for 640x400)!"
<tuxbrain>
calamarz:on openwrt
<tuxbrain>
kyak wonderfull :) I'm drafting a community news on the nanohacks forum, this is one more item :)
<kyak>
tuxbrain: good! it would be nice to put the Makefile somewhere else, because my Internet sucks these days
<kyak>
xdpirate: hi! would you mind to test the ne package?
<kyak>
xdpirate: the last link is for you to test :)
<xdpirate>
kyak, sure i'll give it a go
<calamarz>
tuxbrain: yep, the deb complains about the same thing... i was looking in the sources and don't know why, but is seems to be initializing video to 2x by default :/
<tuxbrain>
well the good news is is simplier to change 2x->1x than 1x->1/2x :P
<xdpirate>
kyak, it doesn't work, i think it needs to be ported properly, ncurses basically isn't doing it's job, interface looks mangled and moves around =/
<kyak>
xdpirate: hm, okay.. i'm flashing my Ben now to check it
<xdpirate>
kyak, mkay :P
<kyak>
xdpirate: has the first version (the one compiled "by hands") worked fine?
<xdpirate>
it had the same problems
<xdpirate>
tho i didn't notice it straight away
<kyak>
ok, i have some thoughts, need to check it
<kyak>
xdpirate: btw, as a quick fix, ctrl+L "unmangles" the interface :)
<kyak>
xdpirate: another quick fix is to run it in "screen" with "ne --no-ansi"
<tuxbrain>
:) :) :) scummvm started on jlime :) :) :) (so I supose in debian also)
<tuxbrain>
scummvm -g1x
<tuxbrain>
calamarz: man we need that keybmouse working....
<xdpirate>
should be able to enable/disable it with a keycombo tho
<xdpirate>
so you can actually use the arrow keys whilst it's running
<tuxbrain>
or use red arrow+arrow keys to mouse function
<tuxbrain>
also red arrow+enter to click
<tuxbrain>
and red arrow+qi key to right click
<xdpirate>
qi key returns 0 so it might not be usable tbh
<xdpirate>
the power-key returns 0 aswell
<xdpirate>
it's a null key =(
<xdpirate>
M and = would work
<xdpirate>
you have a mini-mouse
<xdpirate>
cos M and = are straight above the arrows :P
<xdpirate>
M left and = right :D
<tuxbrain>
damn it, so red arrow +M=>
<kyak>
xdpirate: i just copied the /etc/termcap from my desktop to Ben and ne interface is ok! you should still run it with --no-ansi, or wait a bit for an updated version.. I think ne should be made dependant on termcap database. But there is no such package, so I'll have to create it
<tuxbrain>
I prefere to asing keys without already red arrow key correspondence
<xdpirate>
kyak, yeah it works perfectly with --no-ansi
<xdpirate>
made a few screenshots
<kyak>
xdpirate: even without a /etc/termcap? or you run it in screen?
<xdpirate>
in screen
<xdpirate>
anyone got an ftp server working? easier to transmit files
<kyak>
xdpirate: damn :) the syntax highlighting is broken with --no-ansi!
<calamarz>
tuxbrain: yep, it does :) I guess I won't have much time until next weekend... the only thing needed to have keymouse working is to compile uinput kernel module
<xdpirate>
kyak, aw :( x]
<tuxbrain>
you already have a Makefile for keymouse?
<zear>
works on the nanonote and has mouse emulation
<calamarz>
zear: that sounds great :)
<kyak>
xdpirate: lol :)
<xdpirate>
;D
<xdpirate>
zear, which of the scummvm versions? the static build or the newer dynamic one? the static build (older, but works best on my dingoo) fails, will just lock up after a while
<zear>
xdpirate, doesn't matter once you copy the dingux libs
<zear>
oh? well, i never played it for a longer time
<zear>
just for a minute to check if it works
<xdpirate>
zear, which dingux libs? i copied sdlmixer and libmad, i tried copying over other sdl libs earlier but sdl stopped working and i had to reflash
<tuxbrain>
zear: I'm using jlime , and if we succed in port the keymouse then any aplication can use mouse without mouse emulation... better said, mouse emulation will be embedded on system
<zear>
xdpirate, whatever scummvm crashes on ;)
<xdpirate>
it loads and seems to be working fine but decides to be a whore when i press a key lol
<kyak>
xdpirate: could you please check: after starting of ne (not in screen, without --no-ansi), press Ctrl+L. Now the syntax highlighting works and the interface is not mangled
<xdpirate>
ok sec
<xdpirate>
yup but extras menu will not show completely and will wrap to the left side of the screen
<xdpirate>
except for that, everything seems to be in working order
<xdpirate>
Btw I thought I'd spam this a little more: We have a discussion forum now, over at Dingoonity, feel free to talk about anything NanoNote related here: http://boards.dingoonity.org/ben-nanonote/
<kyak>
well ok, the extras menu won't fit on Ben's screen (both in width and height) - how do you suppose it should be displayed? :)
<xdpirate>
I have no idea ;)
<kyak>
me too :)
<xdpirate>
if possible, just push it to the left so all elements are displayed, doesn't need to be lined up with the toplevel menu item
<xdpirate>
dividing it up in submenus could work height-wise
<zear>
xdpirate, then don't touch unmapped keys ;P
<zear>
just the ones dingoo uses
<xdpirate>
zear, ._.
<xdpirate>
thing is, they work in scummvm menu
<xdpirate>
for entering names of games etc
<xdpirate>
but not when running
<xdpirate>
that's bad programming too, your program shouldn't lock up if an unknown keycode is entered, it should ignore it =/
<kyak>
xdpirate: the conclusion: ne is just not designed for such small terminals :) using it via ssh ok, though
<xdpirate>
hehe, true, it works perfectly if you just disregard the extras menu though
<xakh>
but if someone can get me instructions for making a super tiny mouse we can attach to the nano
<urandom_>
xakh i really hope they will add this trackball to the Ya, would be really importand for me but well they have to keep the price low and all
<xakh>
true
<xakh>
But!
<xakh>
okay, bear with me.
<xakh>
what if we just take this breakout
<xakh>
and design a tiny mouse, that hooks on to the nano
<xakh>
if you guys provide me instructions, I'll be happy to donate a few of them to the project, pro bono
<xakh>
so, game of good idea bad idea.
<xakh>
what do you guys think?
<urandom_>
good idea but how do you want to connect it with the ben?
<xakh>
well
<xakh>
now that's where my experience with phone hackers comes in handy!
<xakh>
the HTC hero and the NanoNote are hardware identical on miniusb.
<xakh>
so, the host mode hack worked there, plausible on NN?
<tuxbrain>
no, most of movile devices has Usb on the go chip, but only usb gadget on it, the case of HTC hero, but in our case we have a pure usb device chip, so I'm sorry  but no way
<xakh>
dang!
<xakh>
hm.
<xakh>
I was really hoping I'd figured it out.
<tuxbrain>
when I mean usb gadget on it I refering to drivers, so is software matter, in our case is totally hardware
<xakh>
how about a microsd adapter'?
<xakh>
ah
<xakh>
well, what of microsd
<xakh>
I know there's a wifi card with it
<xakh>
well
<xakh>
another question
<tuxbrain>
in theory posible but you ned to find one vendor doing so, AFAIK I only knew one that  had made something similar but in a Compact Flash  USB host , but I have no see neither a SD version
<xakh>
Anyway, this thing could easily get a leafpad port, right?
<xakh>
oh, and I heard something about not reflashing to install jlime?
<tuxbrain>
It's only my opinion, but I preffer the tinnier the better , icewm, ratpoison, and another lwm? from jlime era(I dont remember well the name) I think will fit better BNN X.org needs, also we try to tend to do "one thing at time" way of work  do BNN has it's limitations and I thing is better do one thing but at good speed .
<tuxbrain>
yes just format the sd, uncompress and go
<xakh>
hmm.
<xakh>
holy crap.
<xakh>
still
<xakh>
I love IceWM
<xakh>
but LXDE is OpenBox with a panel
<tuxbrain>
icewn is out of the box with jlime :)
<xakh>
really?!
<xakh>
so I can just startx, I don't have to install anything?
<xakh>
well, with a bunch of parameters
<xakh>
but I mean without mucking about in opkg
<tuxbrain>
not
<tuxbrain>
not mucking
<xakh>
?
<xakh>
oh ok
<xakh>
great!
<tuxbrain>
the params to start x are in the jlime documetation
<xakh>
hmm.
<xakh>
need to get an empty microsd card now
<xakh>
hmm
<xakh>
now I'm worried though, that there won't be a good port of powder
<xakh>
(roguelike I play on my nn constantly, totally addicted)
<tuxbrain>
if it's already in OE(OpenEmbeded) that is very probable it's a really easy to port to Jlime, rafa are you listening? I'm a powder fan too!!!
<tuxbrain>
:)
<xakh>
yay!
<xakh>
everyone loves powder.
<xakh>
Tlosh forever!
<xdpirate>
powder on a gba emu :P
<xdpirate>
gpSP
<xakh>
lol
<xakh>
it works!
<xakh>
honestly, I don't know why I love it so much
<xakh>
just so easy to play
<xakh>
not easy to win
<xakh>
at all
<xakh>
I never make it past level 5, but I still love playing it
<tuxbrain>
powder is one of my top five reasons of procrastination
<tuxbrain>
:P
<xakh>
hell yes.
<tuxbrain>
just below this channel :P
<xakh>
I have literally dozens of games on my laptop
<tuxbrain>
must leave see ya
<xakh>
but I only have 3 on the nanonote
<xakh>
okay
<xakh>
see ya
<rafa>
xakh: I think that powder is not in OE repo, so it is not in jlime repo. BUUUT, zear is part of jlime project and I am sure that he will have a powder package for jlime extra-packages soon ;)
<zear>
xakh, there's the native powder port for the nn i made ;)
<zear>
oh, you already know that, for a second i though you were discussing powder via gba emu ;)
<zear>
xakh, get a wand of polymorph, transform to something badass and do a rush on lower levels ;)
<xakh>
wand of polymorph is my fav strategy
<zear>
:D
<zear>
you need to find a ring/amulet of unchanging as well
<zear>
and amulet of reflection/mirror shield, then you're immune to directional magic
<zear>
and when a monster stands by the wall, if you shoot with the wand of fire, for example, it will bounce off the wall, then your shield/amulet, then again of the wall and so on, striking the enemy several times in one turn
<zear>
a deadly strategy
<xakh>
indeed
<nebajoth>
sup
<sdschulze>
OK, I changed some patches in my OpenWRT tree.  Now how do I force it to repatch my kernel?
<larsc>
make target/{clean,install}
<sdschulze>
Ah, OK, so "target" refers to the kernel?
<larsc>
yes
<sdschulze>
ok, thanks
<sdschulze>
At least it compiles much faster than natively...
<sdschulze>
even on my 1.5 GHz i686 machine
<xakh>
hey, guys, where do I download the file to put jlime on my nano from SD?