apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p195: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p429) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<andrewvos> Surely less code is better
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<Aria> I ... despise that style.
<Aria> That something with an and in a condition is 'unreadable' smacks of illiteracy.
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<Aria> Yeah. The outage lasts 33 seconds.
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<Aria> HEh. And the latest release seems to have a busted imgadm
<Aria> imgadm avail shows this:
<Aria> Whoops. wrong window
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<andrewvos> hah that went on for a while
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<Aria> Ayuh. Same conversational rate in this window.
<Aria> And my client decided on the same colors.
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<dingus_khan> test
<dingus_khan> new IRC client, sorry
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<andrewvos> dingus_khan: your text is all garbled
<dingus_khan> are you being serious right now? because someone else pranked me on this server a few days ago
<andrewvos> haha
<andrewvos> just joking
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<martin__> first time question here: i do not understand a solution posted here: http://stackoverflow.com/a/5030173/276949 - in file "helpers/init.rb" is he calling a block with a module as the parameter?
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<martin__> if this is the case, is the block doing something with the module? I does not seem to be...
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<Rakko> it's not a block but the module is the parameter
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<martin__> Rakko, if it's not a block what is it? I have no idea term to google
<ryanf> martin__: it's just a method call
<ryanf> it's the same thing as MyApp.helpers(PartialPartials)
<ryanf> helpers is a method that takes one parameter
<ryanf> this code is passing a reference to the module PartialPartials as that parameter
<martin__> ryanf, what I don't get is that I don't see that method defined as taking a param? It's defined in MyApp class correct?
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<ryanf> MyApp is inheriting from Sinatra::Application
<ryanf> that method is defined somewhere inside Sinatra
<martin__> ryanf, i see - thanks :)
<ryanf> no problem
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<rue> “My first attempt looked like [POW METHOD MISSING AW YEAH]”
<rue> -.-
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<Rakko> gotta get that boom boom pow
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<erikh> Aria: you drinking the smartos kool-aid too?
<erikh> I *love* smartos.
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<yorickpeterse> herro
<apeiros> ullo
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<charliesome> this doc is pretty cool https://github.com/jruby/jruby/wiki/JRubyInternalDesign
<charliesome> imagine if MRI had something like it
<yorickpeterse> ha ha ha
<yorickpeterse> I don't see that happening in the next decade
<charliesome> i know it's funny and all
<charliesome> but it would be so useful
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<yorickpeterse> brrrrr, C coding styles make me sad
<yorickpeterse> https://live.gnome.org/JsonGlib/ just look at these fucking curly brackets
<charliesome> my coding style is the best
<charliesome> haha what the shit
<yorickpeterse> also, Vala looks pretty cool
<yorickpeterse> I might actually use it to see if I can whip together a somewhat decent Campfire client for Lunix
<charliesome> campfire is basically irc with less features
<yorickpeterse> don't get me started
<yorickpeterse> HERP DERP FUCK ACTUAL STREAMING WE'LL USE POLLING FOR AN API
<yorickpeterse> OR KEEPALIVE-TIMEOUT: 0 HERP DERP
<yorickpeterse> also HTTP for chat APIs seems like a really fucking bad idea to me
<yorickpeterse> at least when you're using stupid tech
<charliesome> yeah
<charliesome> you'd imagine that campfire could at the very least do long polling
<charliesome> especially seeing as it looks like they're going through some custom fastcgi endpoint
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<yorickpeterse> hm, apparently testing is still a bit of a mixed bag in Vala
<charliesome> who needs testing just yolo it
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<injekt> yolo-testing
<injekt> YDD
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<yorickpeterse> YOLO Driven Development: you have to kill yourself if a test fails
<yorickpeterse> because you only live once anyway
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<yorickpeterse> charliesome: needs benchmarks
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: all i have is anecdotes
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<charliesome> actually no i lie
<charliesome> i benchmarked eval.in's homepage
<charliesome> super scientific
<charliesome> 1500 req/s on 2.0.0-p0, 2000 req/s on my patch
<yorickpeterse> not to be a dick but if you have a performance patch you should really include some benchmark
<charliesome> yeah
<charliesome> no i agree
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<yorickpeterse> the Dutch have a perfect saying for this: "Wij van WC eend adviseren WC eend", which translates to "We from Toilet Duck (company that makes toilet cleaning stuff) advice Toilet Duck"
<yorickpeterse> which is from a legendary TV ad from the 80s
<yorickpeterse> ha, it's even on Wikipedia
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: haha that windows server vs rhel page is hilarious
<charliesome> "Red Hat’s business is based on annual subscriptions for OS support—you pay a subscription for every server, every year. And, if you want 24/7 support, you’ll pay more."
<charliesome> no mention of 24/7 support in the windows column lol...
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<yorickpeterse> yeah, you just pay for the OS
<yorickpeterse> support is separate
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<yorickpeterse> "Remember that anyone who has your authentication token can see and change everything you have access to. So you want to guard that as well as you guard your username and password. If you come to fear that it has been compromised, just change your regular password and the authentication token will change too."
<yorickpeterse> who the fuck ties a token directly to a password?
<yorickpeterse> Might as well just use your fucking username/password itself seeing how this has zero security benefits
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<Aria> yeah, erikh, I am drinking it. And boy is it tasty.
<yorickpeterse> zzak: ordered one of those berlington Ruby catnip toys
<yorickpeterse> dis gun be good
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<zzak> hahaha
<yorickpeterse> he already has a scratch mat/thing with catnip in it so he's in for a fun trip
<yorickpeterse> http://cat.yorickpeterse.com/movies/2011-08-30.webm said cat tripping balls
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<zzak> its cool shes willing to ship it over there
<yorickpeterse> yah, etsy is pretty great for weird stuff like this
<yorickpeterse> I once got a bow tie for my cat from Etsy too
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<zzak> ds/wi 1
<zzak> mt
<yorickpeterse> wat
<zzak> cute cat
<matti> zzak: ;]
* matti steals zzak's cat
<matti> HAHAH
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<zzak> :(
<matti> Ohh.
<matti> OK.
* matti returns cat to zzak
<zzak> :D
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<matti> zzak: Now. You cat is now part of the BORG collective.
<yorickpeterse> hahahaha
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<matti> :)
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<zzak> 22 minutes!
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<andrewvos> OMG just spent like half an hour writing an app that stores the OAuth client secret in the actual iOS app
<andrewvos> Facepalm
<andrewvos> I don't particularly like oauth
<andrewvos> How do I do this? All I want is to get a simple value from an API
<andrewvos> But if I make a site that handles this stuff then I'm just opening the user up to a new security vulnerability
<andrewvos> And I don't want the user to have to create an account on my site too, that just means two logins on an iPhone.
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<andrewvos> So now if I want to create a simple iPhone app that uses an external api that uses oauth, I have to create my own api, and make sure I have ssl on there too.
<andrewvos> Imma just shut up and create the api
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<rue> Good job
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<andrewvos> Can someone go ahead and delete everything I said, because apparently I am actually an idiot.
<andrewvos> rue: move along here
<andrewvos> nothing to see here
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<yorickpeterse> bah, I don't like it when some IRC channel is on some network other than Freenode
<yorickpeterse> too much effort to go to a different network
<whitequark> you're just lazy
<yorickpeterse> that too
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<ddfreyne> IRC should be decentralised :)
<whitequark> this is a direct consequence of being decentralized
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<yorickpeterse> heh, seems the Campfire API has a bad case of smurf code
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<yorickpeterse> I also like how consistent the XML is
<yorickpeterse> you don't need proper APIs when you have Basecamp
* yorickpeterse runs
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<arubin> Smurf code?
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<yorickpeterse> StrictFoobarMessageMessage, stuff like that
<yorickpeterse> wait, was it actually called that
<yorickpeterse> hold on
<yorickpeterse> #21
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<arubin> Where is the example in this XML?
<yorickpeterse> In this case it's the Message prefix
<yorickpeterse> since it's already in a message resource it's redundant
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<canton7> prefix or suffix?
<yorickpeterse> errrrr derp
<yorickpeterse> suffix
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<canton7> I don't think it's too bad in that context myself. Had they gone with <message-id>, <message-type>, <message-starred>, etc, then sure
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<rue> Why?
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* whitequark wonders
<whitequark> >> "%" "d" % [1]
<eval-in> whitequark => "1" (http://eval.in/30757)
<whitequark> whitespace is weird.
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<yorickpeterse> meh, that one makes some sense
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<yorickpeterse> >> "since " "this" "is" "concatted"
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "since thisisconcatted" (http://eval.in/30758)
<yorickpeterse> it actually lets you do this:
<yorickpeterse> "herp derp long line" \
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<yorickpeterse> "the rest"
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<andrewvos> Spent hours getting oauth working for this API, and it turns out they don't do what I want anyway. Now need to git revert and scrape the data I need :( :(
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I KNOW RIGHT
<whitequark> i fucking wrote a parser
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<yorickpeterse> you should get a t-shirt with that
<yorickpeterse> "I know this shit, I wrote a Ruby parser"
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: http://i.qkme.me/3uh5qh.jpg
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<yorickpeterse> sometimes quickmeme is actually useful
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: the meme was irrelevant
<whitequark> the t-shirt idea, hmm...
<whitequark> dunno. the only acceptable form would be "I WROTE A FUCKING RUBY PARSER", however it's pointless in everyday life and for conferences this is not the tone I like. I'm not dhh for that matter.
<whitequark> so, no.
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<yorickpeterse> boo
<yorickpeterse> I think I actually have a "JAVASCRIPT MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?" t-shirt
<yorickpeterse> but I never wear it since I hate Javascript
<yorickpeterse> http://nelm.io/images/shop/wear/jsmofo/douglas-big.jpg this one, but in black
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<dingus_khan> is there a method that behaves the same as join, but permits joining on a pattern or accepts more arguments, for strings?
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<Aria> "joining on a pattern"?
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<dingus_khan> right, so I have intervals of digits I need to group together, converting from a fixnum to a string, then splitting, then joining in the groupings, while adding commas
<dingus_khan> it's the whole "add commas to an integer" thing, so 10000 becomes "10,000"
<dingus_khan> I've got the right regex for one test case, but I'm trying to remember if there was a way to do all that with a built-in method
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<dingus_khan> can't tell if slice will work...
<Aria> Something like this:
<Aria> [1,2,3,4,5,6].each_slice(3).map { |e| e.join() }.join(',')
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<Aria> ?
<Aria> Though I assume you start your groups from the right, not left.
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<Aria> [1,2,3,4,5,6].reverse.each_slice(3).map { |e| e.reverse.join() }.reverse.join(',')
<dingus_khan> right, that's what I was thinking, thank you! EACH_slice, I'm an idiot
<Aria> Happy to help.
<dingus_khan> and map, forgot about map, sigh.
<Aria> Hehe. Easy to do if you're not used to chainable or functional operations.
<dingus_khan> thank you, you just saved me a great deal of wheel-spinning and ramming through permutations of that exact phrase
<dingus_khan> I was trying to chain the wrong things, is what it was. the docs just leave me hard-up for details so often, and me running through my guesses on irb is a slow and tedious method
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<Aria> Herp derp. Apparently I spoke too soon about the quality of amtrak wifi in Maine.
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<dingus_khan> And here I thought I was talking too much, lol
<whitequark> dingus_khan: hm