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<dingus_khan> hi whitequark! I tried to follow you on twitter, couldn't remember my password, gave up, will try again at some point, lol. anti-climactic, that's my style
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<matti> zzak: You cat is adorable.
<matti> zzak: We need to clone him.
<matti> zzak: I was 3 more.
<matti> want*
* whitequark giggles
<whitequark> finally, an accurate description of an outcome of a real-life cloning
<erikh> I might start with the twootering again
<erikh> unsure yet.
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<whitequark> erikh: I'd welcome that
<erikh> I always do that too, say "fuck this" and then trash my account, and then come galumphing back
<erikh> whitequark: :)
<whitequark> too?
<erikh> idioms
<erikh> no reference to anyone else
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<whitequark> oh, sure.
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* whitequark really, really hates shell right now.
<erikh> everyone hates shell
<erikh> well, ok, there are some sick sysadmins out tehre that like it
<erikh> even though they know other things
<erikh> but most people who like it actually can't program effectively in anything else or need something really terse
<whitequark> saddest part of it, it doesn't even matter anymore if someone comes up with a decent replacement
<erikh> it's great for very little things, but decently sized scripts, it's a travesty
<erikh> yep, it's hideously entrenched
<erikh> back in a min
<whitequark> it's not even inherently bad for big scripts... it's a kinda-fine procedural language, worse things exist. it's just that all operations are slightly awkward and most of interesting stuff is unportable.
<whitequark> so you get an exponential explosion of awkwardness
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<whitequark> erikh: (decently sized scripts) I once opened `configure'
<whitequark> I think I got PTSD from that.
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<erikh> configure is generated
<erikh> by autoconf
<erikh> welcome to hell, there.
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<whitequark> erikh: I know. I know far more about autoconf than I would ever wish for.
<whitequark> I used to maintain a set of buildscripts for my little linux distro.
<erikh> fair enough
<whitequark> which cross-compiled gcc.
<whitequark> oh, pain
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<erikh> ha
<whitequark> remind me again why exactly should it be compiled for each target at once? remind me again why --target is an option for ALL autoconf projects?
<erikh> yeah, I've peeked under the hood at luislavena's rake/gem compiler stuff
<whitequark> *could not it be compiled
<erikh> do not envy that guy
<whitequark> he does the windows port, doesn't he?
<erikh> he has an unhealthy love for that cause
<erikh> yes
<erikh> he's a goddamned hero as far as I'm concerned
<erikh> also absurdly productive
<whitequark> wasn't he also radically opposed for moving over mri's development to git?
<whitequark> git(hub).
<erikh> maybe? dunno.
<erikh> he gets to have a voice. he's earned it.
<whitequark> I think some ruby windows dev vetoed it. not sure if him or someone else.
<whitequark> that kind of sucks, but since mri now accepts PRs on GH, it seems to be fine.
<erikh> possibly, it'd be him or heesob these days. I don't think imperator is still doing a lot of ruby windows stuff.
<whitequark> that discussion was quite a while ago... I can't seem to find traces of it easily
<erikh> dinner, later.
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<erikh> haha. my wife cooked, calls out dinner. I go downstairs, she hands me a bowl -- go to sit down at the couch. she's staring at me funny and her game of civ 5 is running in the bg
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<erikh> me: "you want to eat at the computer tonight, don't you?"
<erikh> her, very sheepishly: "yeaaaaaah."
<whitequark> hehe. you have a nice wife, don't you? :)
<erikh> (we usually eat together, if that isn't obvious)
<erikh> she's a pretty awesome person, for sure.
* whitequark wonders if it's possible to subscribe to individual files on github. I'd subscribe to parse.y. I'm (not) masochistic.
<whitequark> via RSS or whatnot
<whitequark> no, only to commits :/
<erikh> yeah, that'd be kind of cool
<erikh> I'd use it to subscribe to changelogs
<whitequark> oh. that is a neat idea.
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<whitequark> maybe I should make a webservice
<erikh> then you'd have two problems
<whitequark> m?
<erikh> heh, just a joke
<erikh> but yeah, that could get pretty interesting
<whitequark> I mainly don't want to do that because I don't want to figure out how to avoid someone accidentally DoSing my server
<whitequark> like, pull in the entire linux repo
<erikh> right
<erikh> well, you could use oauth
<erikh> and max number of files per account
<whitequark> THEN I would have two problems
<erikh> well, it's better than just letting people spam you
<erikh> err, max number of files per repo/account
<whitequark> it's worse than not having such service at all
<erikh> so, you could subscribe to 3 files in the linux kernel, 3 files in ruby, etc
<whitequark> erikh: doesn't matter, there are countless forks of linux
<erikh> count all forks as a single repo
<erikh> github gives you all that in the API
<whitequark> people are not obliged to mark forks as forks, of course
<erikh> they have to clone and upload the repo
<erikh> someone would have to work very hard
<whitequark> right, and it won't get marked as fork in that case
<whitequark> you have to explicitly fork the project
<erikh> right
<erikh> point is, the trouble isn't work it
<erikh> worth
<whitequark> I've uploaded such 'independent forks' myself, it was kinda easier
<erikh> for them that is
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<whitequark> though, it was prior to torvalds/linux
<erikh> I mean to use it as a DoS vector
<whitequark> erikh: >accidental
<whitequark> there are quite a bit of large projects on github
<whitequark> I definitely do not want to pull their source in any form
<erikh> right, so do it by filenames, max per repo, count forks as the same repo
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<erikh> yeah, then just pull the difffs
<erikh> github likely tells you if it's binary or not
<whitequark> hrm
<erikh> no worse than git itself, at least.
<whitequark> won't it be easier to just ask github for diffs then, and mail them out?
<erikh> or, not MUCH worse at least
<whitequark> s,mail,distribute,
<erikh> right
<erikh> that's actually exactly what i'm suggesting
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<erikh> or do it pull style with atom or w/e
<erikh> just with a background aggregator
<whitequark> yeah, same principle
<erikh> (so you can throttle it nicely)
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<zzak> matti: thank you!
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<dingus_khan> can someone point me to a source on regex's that isn't rubular or eloquent ruby that will explain this expression (particularly the '?=' part): /(?=\d)/
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<zzak> dingus_khan: ri ruby:re
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<dingus_khan> zzak: OK, after googling that, my best guess is that it's some sort of tool I install for my command line that will somehow provide me documentation/answers I'm looking for...?
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<zzak> you should have it with the latest version of ruby
<zzak> otherwise you can find it here: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/doc/re_rdoc.html
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<dingus_khan> whoa, I just tried typing in "ri" and it totally worked, hah. thank you!
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<dingus_khan> except now I don't know how to look for things like extensions to regular expressions in ruby on it... :\
<zzak> the "re" document contains regular expression info
<zzak> try: `ri ruby:re`
<dingus_khan> man I feel like an idiot
<dingus_khan> that opened up what looked like VIM and it was blank
<zzak> ive read that doc quite a few times, and i still suck at regex
<dingus_khan> regex is pretty crazy, but impressive at the same time
<zzak> dingus_khan: what version of ruby?
<zzak> are you using rvm?
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<dingus_khan> 1.9.3, used RVM
<zzak> install 2.0
<zzak> you need latest ruby
<zzak> otherwise you have to view the doc online
<dingus_khan> ah, I've been told to only use 1.9.3 for now though, it's all the school I'm going to uses, they say 2.0 is full of broken things and I might die
<dingus_khan> well a student said the die part
<zzak> you can switch back pretty easy with rvm
<zzak> it doesnt hurt to install it ;)
<havenwood> dingus_khan: There is no dying involved. Its an easy update: rvm install ruby
<zzak> plus, there was just a patch-level release to fix most of those!
<dingus_khan> touche, I forgot about how convenient rvm is
<zzak> and if there are still bugs, then they should be reported at bugs.ruby-lang.org!
<dingus_khan> awesome! if I used the default rvm install command, it already came with 2.0, right? lemme check
<zzak> update rvm first
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<havenwood> dingus_khan: Yup. Just update rvm: rvm get latest (or rvm get stable)
<zzak> you will probably have to generate docs after you install it too
<zzak> i think its "rvm generate docs"?
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<dingus_khan> I just installed rvm like yesterday I think, maybe day before, still need to update?
<havenwood> dingus_khan: You're good.
<dingus_khan> I've got 2.0 already, going to use generate docs now
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<dingus_khan> so after generating the documentation using all the available use commands, and switching to 2.0.0, I still get what looks like a blank VIM document
<dingus_khan> spacing it out like so: ri ruby : re gets me some kind of error page and some suggestions, also VIM-style
<zzak> no space
<dingus_khan> gotcha, tried it first with no spaces, still nada
<zzak> it will open up in a vim-like viewer
<zzak> dingus_khan: what does "ri ruby:" return?
<zzak> i think rvm might mess with --page-dir
<dingus_khan> it returns a vim-like view of a page that says " = Pages in ruby core" and then (END) two lines below that and that's it
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<zzak> no pages listed?
<dingus_khan> no sir/ma'am
<zzak> :(
<dingus_khan> I am also sad
<dingus_khan> however, I'm excited I've learned about what ri is, at least in a basic sense!
<havenwood> Seems to be rvm issue. I get pages listed with chruby and not so with rvm.
<havenwood> dingus_khan: Could mention on #rvm.
<dingus_khan> is chruby another version control system?
<dingus_khan> ok, I'll head over there and mention it
<zzak> its a bug in rvm
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<zzak> dingus_khan: want to open a ticket here? https://github.com/wayneeseguin/rvm/issues/new
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<dingus_khan> I'm a super-duper ultra noob when it comes to programming and software development in general, so I don't really know how to go about submitting a bug report... :(
<zzak> if youre not comfortable i can do it
<havenwood> dingus_khan: Yes, chruby sets your environment variables correctly for your selected Ruby. An alternative is rbenv, which makes shims instead of setting env vars.
<havenwood> dingus_khan: RVM is the most popular of the bunch, you just ran into a bug!
<dingus_khan> havenwood: you just went way above my head right there, hah. and yeah, I was told to use RVM, but I'm kinda excited that I'm experiencing a moment of evolution in the whole RVM scene!
<havenwood> dingus_khan: No need to pay heed. RVM is a great choice. Alternatives like chruby and rbenv take a minimalist approach to solve a subset of the same problem RVM tackles.
<dingus_khan> so should I just say, in the bug report, "ri documentation not working for regex extensions in 1.9.3 and 2.0.0"?
<dingus_khan> I gotcha, thanks for the tip--I'll stick with RVM for the time being!
<zzak> dingus_khan: ive opened it, no worries
<dingus_khan> sweet, thank you zzak!
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<dingus_khan> sweet, thanks for doing that zzak! hopefully they get on that at some point soon
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<zzak> np!
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<erikh> got nothing done this week! \o/
<erikh> and I went to maker faire so there's that.
<whitequark> what do they have here these days?
<whitequark> arduino workshops? :)
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<erikh> this year was a little lighter, but yeah, usually
<erikh> most of it is the product of builders, or at least it is on saturday
<whitequark> builders ?
<erikh> people who make stuff
<whitequark> that's vague
<erikh> motorized couches
<erikh> a car with a bunch of those animatronic fish things attached and playing music
<erikh> weird stuff people have built
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<erikh> oh and the r2d2 collection
<erikh> always amazing
<whitequark> what is, in your opinion as a person who visited the event, the point of it?
<whitequark> is it art?
<erikh> a little of both
<erikh> it's what other hack conferences want to be
<whitequark> (both) art and what?
<erikh> science!
<erikh> well, sci/eng
<erikh> there's a band you might have seen that performs there
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<erikh> plays a guitar in a full chainmail suit
<erikh> with two tesla coils ionizing the air to create the music
<whitequark> I'll explain my point
<erikh> sure
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<whitequark> if it's art, I think it's ok. art is fine, we can't have too much of it
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<whitequark> however, if the point of it is to showcase engineering, or science, or worst of all education, then, as it seems to me, such events are essentially celebration of ignorance.
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<whitequark> for example:
<erikh> there were a *lot* of engineers there.
<erikh> this is more than a dog and pony show. it's a bit like ruby conf, right?
<erikh> you have the people who go every year, know each other, hardcore rubyists
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<erikh> then the tourists (I am msot definitely a tourist)
<whitequark> you can go to the website of arduino and look at the description. "It's intended for artists, designers, hobbyists...", note how there is no "engineers" or "scientists" or even "programmers"
<erikh> eh, artists and designers spend more
<erikh> ;)
<whitequark> it's basically a toy. and it's totally fine! it's an excellent toy.
<erikh> they don't have to sell it to us
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<whitequark> however, when people begin to think that engineering starts and ends with doing stuff with arduinos, things go very wrong
<whitequark> (this happens a lot, trust me)
<erikh> we know what it is, we know it's an arm architecture and you use a C-alike to program it
<whitequark> it's not arm ;)
<erikh> don't confuse the marketing with the product.
<erikh> it's not?
<whitequark> avr
<erikh> huh. I did not know that!
<erikh> I don't know what avr is either so :)
<erikh> keep meaning to get one, never get around to it
<whitequark> 8-bit core. it doesn't matter, I can tell you more afterwards
<erikh> maybe after I do my bootloader project
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<erikh> so, er, are you concerned that people not interested in a career in engineering might get confused as to what engineering is all about?
<whitequark> erikh: no. I don't like when people take something which is not engineering and place it as such.
<erikh> are you on facebook?
<whitequark> nah
<erikh> I have a ton of pictures up there.
<erikh> and videos
<erikh> it's not only an art thing.
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<whitequark> and especially I don't like when such people then go make a Kickstarter and confuse even more folks around.
<erikh> one of the interactive activities was "learn to solder", and I almost just took the day and did that.
<erikh> 'cause I've never been able to do it well
<whitequark> erikh: that is good thing.
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<erikh> but it's almost all stuff like that
<erikh> see, they drag you in with the art and the big stuff
<whitequark> (tesla coils) not sure if you know it, but the trick is age-old and very simple :)
<erikh> and then almost all of the courses / activities are all hard nerd stuff
<erikh> whitequark: oh, it's a show
<erikh> they play black sabbath and the imperial march!
<erikh> I mean, how awesome is that
<whitequark> cool
<whitequark> more specifically, cool art :)
<erikh> exactly, it's basically the ren faire, but for engineers
<whitequark> (I haven't seen that band but they're by far not the first one to come up with this)
<whitequark> ren faire? no idea
<erikh> ah, it's a medieval recreation thing
<erikh> re-creation (to disambiguate)
<erikh> tends to attract a lot of history buffs.
<erikh> yep
<erikh> my wife used to routinely do a similar thing with a different group called the SCA
<whitequark> brb
<erikh> sure
<erikh> I need to bail in a few anyhow
<erikh> but boston's on rdio and I feel like wearing a mullet for 4 minutes
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<whitequark> rdio?..
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<erikh> streaming music service
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<whitequark> US-centrism :/
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<bnagy> as in a Generator class with proper next / next? API?
<whitequark> 20>> require 'generator'; Generator
<eval-in> whitequark => (http://eval.in/30977)
<bnagy> 20>> require 'generator'; Generator.new.methods.grep /next/
<eval-in> bnagy => (http://eval.in/30978)
<bnagy> fail
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<bnagy> 20>> Enumerator::Generator.new.methods.grep /next/
<eval-in> bnagy => no block given (LocalJumpError) ... (http://eval.in/30982)
<bnagy> 20>> Enumerator::Generator.new([1]).methods.grep /next/
<eval-in> bnagy => wrong argument type Array (expected Proc) (TypeError) ... (http://eval.in/30983)
<bnagy> rrr ok completely different to the jruby one for a start
<bnagy> cannot be bothered installing mri just to check :
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<whitequark> jruby>> 1
<whitequark> sigh
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<dingus_khan> whitequark, whiiiiiitequaaark. There's a song called White Dove by a guy named John Vanderslice out of San Francisco; that's why.
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<khaase> anyone an idea how I can get ObjectSpace::WeakMap to match by equality?
<khaase> I thought about having a second weak map where I do map[object.hash] = object or something
<khaase> but you can't use a Fixnum as key
<whitequark> khaase: I don't think it's possible?
<khaase> whitequark: hmmm
<whitequark> the whole point is comparison during GC time
<whitequark> or maybe I'm misunderstanding your question
<khaase> I want some sort of identity map that allows objects to be GC'ed
<khaase> but they are identified by strings/hashes
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<khaase> and I want equal and not just identical strings to lead to the identical instance
<khaase> "works most of the time" is also fine here
<khaase> also, I have ObjectSpace::WeakMap available, as this is Ruby >= 2.0 only
<khaase> which does everything I want if I don't care for the equality part
<khaase> I could have a normal hash for doing the identity thing, but then I need to clean that up myself
<khaase> ie, map all equal strings to the identical object, use that as key
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<apeiros> I'm confused - what do you want? an identity map or an equality map?
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<apeiros> i.e., Hash with compare_by_identity or plain Hash? (both with reak refs, that I understood)
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<khaase> apeiros: equality map, Hash with compare_by_identity
<charliesome> khaase: you can store object ids
<charliesome> and define a finalizer that removes the object from your thing
<khaase> hmmm.. I'll try that
<charliesome> it'd prolly be slow though
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<khaase> charliesome: on GC or what do you mean by slow?
<charliesome> it'd just be slower than something that was part of the vm
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<charliesome> good article on doing OO in perl without fancy stuff like moose: http://www.perltricks.com/article/25/2013/5/20/Old-School-Object-Oriented-Perl
<charliesome> might be an interesting read for the rubyists here ;)
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<yorickpeterse> herro
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<apeiros> ullo
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<andrewvos> apeiros: Hows that rubymotion app coming along?
<apeiros> I have none planned
<andrewvos> EXACTLY
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<yorickpeterse> too soon
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<andrewvos> what's too soon?
<andrewvos> hey yorickpeterse I did a reddit post
<yorickpeterse> link
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<chris2> charliesome: i like conway's "object oriented perl" book. one of the best programming books i've read
<charliesome> i've read his "perl best practises"
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<charliesome> he's ridiculously smart
<chris2> and it starts with a chapter rehashing everything you need to know about perl
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<charliesome> also if you have an hour, i *highly* recommend watching this talk of his: http://yow.eventer.com/yow-2011-1004/temporally-quaquaversal-virtual-nanomachine-by-damian-conway-1028
<charliesome> mindblowing shit
<chris2> in about 30 pages. it's really good
<charliesome> brb
<chris2> yeah that talk is fun too
<andrewvos> It got downvoted to oblivion yorickpeterse
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<yorickpeterse> wat
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<yorickpeterse> also what are these comments on HN about downvoting, you can't even downvote somebody
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<chris2> you can
<yorickpeterse> "I'M SORRY YOU'RE GETTING DOWNVOTED" I really only see an upvote arrow
<chris2> if you are there long enough
<yorickpeterse> wat
<chris2> iirc
<yorickpeterse> What is this for elitist bullshit?
<chris2> i dont even have an account :P
<chris2> it kind of makes sense to me
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<yorickpeterse> I also rofled a few days ago when there was this thread about how HN was supposedly going to shit
<yorickpeterse> YARP, THEY FINALLY REALIZE
<andrewvos> I can't download anyone :(
<andrewvos> erm
<yorickpeterse> haha
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<andrewvos> You wouldn't download a *person*
<chris2> i have a very love/hate relationship with hn
<yorickpeterse> YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A BABY
<chris2> more hate, but i feel i miss out if i dont check it :P
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<yorickpeterse> YOU WOULDN'T STEAL AN OFFICER'S HAT AND THEN SHIT IN IT
<andrewvos> yeah
<andrewvos> same
<chris2> and mostly i regret reading the comments
<chris2> but sometimes there is a gem there
<andrewvos> YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD AN OFFICERS HAT
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<yorickpeterse> chris2: the comments are really terrible
<andrewvos> haha
<yorickpeterse> first comment is always in the form of "Yeah I think this is a nice article but you're wrong because <insert stupid reason>"
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<yorickpeterse> also if you put the word "startup" or "disruptive" in your title is frontpage guaranteed
<yorickpeterse> at least the subreddits I read don't have this huge self entitled image of "We're so much better than the rest"
<andrewvos> oh god devops guys are gathering behind me
<andrewvos> going for a walk before they try serial kill me or something
<yorickpeterse> are they having a key signing party?
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<yorickpeterse> in unrelated news, apparently my voice sounds super different through a mic
<yorickpeterse> it sounds like I have a bad cold for some reason
<yorickpeterse> and my nose is clogged
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<andrewvos> they're saying cloud a lot
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<andrewvos> but to be fair it is England hiyoooo
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<khaase> whitequark: I did WeakMap + finalizer now, works like a charm
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<khaase> s/whitequark/charliesome
<charliesome> khaase: don't worry, it's a common typo
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<whitequark> charliesome: lolwhat
<charliesome> khaase: won't that define a finalizer every time?
<khaase> no, ||= is lazy
<khaase> and the finalizer is defined by track
<khaase> I think
<khaase> it's not thread-safe but that's not too bad, worst case, the block will be called twice and you'll end up with two different instances
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<whitequark> finalizers are hideous
<khaase> which is ok in my use case
<khaase> yeah, need to create the proc in a separate method to not have a reference to the object itself thus keeping it alive
<khaase> the GC'ing and finalizer stuff works, though
<charliesome> oh my bad
<charliesome> misread
<charliesome> khaase: performs acceptably well?
<khaase> charliesome: haven't tried yet, need to integrate with my code base, where I have benchmarks in place
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<zzak> WeakMap is nice
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<charliesome> khaase: very nice!
<charliesome> those numbers look good
<charliesome> but i have no context :p
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<khaase> charliesome: costly parsing string into ast, compiling it to regexp
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<charliesome> ah
<khaase> charliesome: compared to addressable, which implements a compatible external api
<khaase> it's failing right now on travis and I have no idea why
<charliesome> khaase: possbility of a hash collision?
<khaase> charliesome: that's why I compare the key again
<charliesome> ah yeah
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<khaase> nice, test run time cut in half
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<khaase> even though tests try to reuse instances wherever possible already
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<khaase> and 4.15 sec with map vs 6.93 sec without on jruby
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<yorickpeterse> charliesome: oi, do you have some form of docs for eval.in?
<yorickpeterse> for zeh api
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: not really lol
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<charliesome> yorickpeterse: you can POST to /
<yorickpeterse> with what data? what format? etc
<charliesome> the docs for that are the form fields on the homepage
<charliesome> and you can ask it for json for a paste
<yorickpeterse> yeah I tried that yesterday and it didn't work
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: oh what happened?
<charliesome> json example: http://eval.in/147.json
<yorickpeterse> charliesome: no response
<yorickpeterse> curl -X POST -d "lang=ruby/mri-2.0.0&code=foo" http://eval.in/ => no response
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<charliesome> weird
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: works for me
<charliesome> 302's to //eval.in/31034
<charliesome> http://eval.in/31034
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<yorickpeterse> wat
<yorickpeterse> Ah, needs -i to show the headers
<yorickpeterse> since you don't output a response body
<yorickpeterse> also lol passenger
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<charliesome> passenger rocks
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<chris2> meh. are there any image hosts left which easily support curl?
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<andrewvos> imgur?
<chris2> my api key doesnt work anymore
<chris2> and i can't resolve the captcha it shows -.-
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<injekt> herp
<darix> chris2: in doubt use mechanize for more complex stuff and keep injekt busy with bug reports. :p
<chris2> yes. i have nothing better to do
<injekt> uh oh
<injekt> hey mechanize will be issue free once I've solved this NTLM crap
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<injekt> or.. removed it :)
<darix> injekt: move it into an extension. then the extension has the issue and not mechanize :p
<injekt> darix: yeah now if only someone else could manage that
<darix> dont look at me. i will go out and have fun with my new camera! :) cya
<injekt> darix: enjoy!
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<zzak> >> DateTime._parse("1:10 2013/20/05")
<eval-in> zzak => uninitialized constant DateTime (NameError) ... (http://eval.in/31038)
<zzak> >> require 'date'; DateTime._parse("1:10 2013/20/05")
<eval-in> zzak => {:hour=>1, :min=>10, :year=>2013, :mon=>20, :mday=>5} (http://eval.in/31039)
<injekt> dat 20th month
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<zzak> lol
<injekt> the source for that method is interesting
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<yorickpeterse> hey now, date/time parsing is hard
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<injekt> heh
<injekt> it's the bane of my life
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<whitequark> Date.parse
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<yorickpeterse> guys
<yorickpeterse> and girls
<yorickpeterse> this is apparently fashion: http://www.regretsy.com/2012/09/29/skants-2/
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<yorickpeterse> it looks kinda creepy too
<andrewvos> I hate this world
<imperator2> ?
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<yorickpeterse> imperator: you just missed it: http://www.regretsy.com/2012/09/29/skants-2/
<imperator> it'll go perfect with my snuggie!
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<yorickpeterse> FARADAY: ONE HTTP CLIENT TO RULE THEM ALL
<yorickpeterse> AND IT CAN'T USE A FUCKING HASH FOR POST PARAMS
* yorickpeterse is getting a bit angry
<injekt> yorickpeterse: wat
<yorickpeterse> Faraday.new(...).post 'some_url', :some_param => 'some_value'
<yorickpeterse> gives a bytesize error because the params have to be a String
<yorickpeterse> fuckit, httpclient is better anyway
<injekt> weird, that;s how it's documented to work (with the hash)
<yorickpeterse> neh
<yorickpeterse> * neg
<injekt> oh
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<injekt> Faraday.new("http://google.com").post('/', some: 'thing') #=> #<Faraday::Response:0x007f86abbce380
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<yorickpeterse> uh wtf
<yorickpeterse> hm, seems to be a Net/HTTP error
<yorickpeterse> since that's the default driver I'm using
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<andrewvos> RubyMotion Current Status: rewrite ALL the gems
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<yorickpeterse> wat
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<pistepilvi> hi, I'm trying to get my head around the following piece of code
<pistepilvi> define_method("[]") do
<pistepilvi> and I'm puzzled by the ("[]") syntax
<apeiros> same as `def []`
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<apeiros> array[15], that calls array.[](15)
<apeiros> i.e., the method with the name []
<pistepilvi> apeiros, that's fast, thanks!
<ericwood> EVERTHING IS OBJECT
<pistepilvi> not that I instantly get what the whole function does, but this definitely helps
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<injekt> method method method
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<ericwood> in the end, we are all just objects
<ericwood> derived from the Object superclass
<ericwood> like, think about it, bro
<injekt> BasicObject would be more accurate
<ericwood> truth
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<apeiros> I object!
<apeiros> iObject?
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<yorickpeterse> >> raise 'test'
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => test (RuntimeError) ... (http://eval.in/31052)
<yorickpeterse> k
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<yorickpeterse> jesus, the eval.in "API" is pretty shit
<yorickpeterse> http://eval.in/31063 lol I borken it
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<andrewvos> Speak to charliesome ;)
<yorickpeterse> he's not here
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<zzak> drbrain: "Eric does seem—as one of the top 32% most vulgar users on GitHub—to be a tad foul-mouthed (with a particular affinity for filthy words like 'hoe')."
<zzak> LOL
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<apeiros> rofl :)
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<yorickpeterse> "orick is a rockstar Rubyist (one of the top 16% most active Ruby users) who loves pushing code."
<yorickpeterse> A ROCKSTAR?KJASHD:KJSAHD:LKJSADH:KJSD
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<zzak> omg you need a job?
<yorickpeterse> "There is also an obvious connection between Yorick and Ramaze, rubinius and grant-olson."
<yorickpeterse> well gee, that's because I have commit access to the former two
<yorickpeterse> and actually pushed code
<yorickpeterse> zzak: no, are you a pimp?
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<zzak> WTB rockstar developer who loves pushing code
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<yorickpeterse> professional code stacker
<yorickpeterse> lfg
<zzak> OOM
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<andrewvos> Groupie Developer
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<ericwood> heh
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<erikh> heh
<erikh> this is hilarious
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<eam> erikh: that is amazing
<erikh> haha yes it is
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<whitequark> ruby-llvm.
* whitequark silently weeps
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<eam> doesn't seem to pick up work in organizations
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<whitequark> eam: ruby-llvm is indeed an organization
<eam> I mean it doesn't seem to be counting contributions
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<yorickpeterse> "Erik's behavior is quite similar to cheald's but cheald is more of a pusher"
<yorickpeterse> that sounds...out of place
<yorickpeterse> "Peter's behavior is quite similar to adelevie's but adelevie is less of a whiner. " hahaha
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<erikh> it said drbrain was more of a whiner than me the first time I loaded it
<erikh> (which is totally not true)
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<erikh> oh, did the guy kill it?
<erikh> my linkies no work
<erikh> well, that sucks.
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<yorickpeterse> probably rustled his server
<erikh> indeed
<erikh> I pasted that thing in a few places
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<yorickpeterse> probably written in Ruby so it doesn't scale :>
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<erikh> probably not
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<andrewvos> http://osrc.dfm.io/andrewvos HAHAHAHAAH
<andrewvos> AMAAAAZING
<andrewvos> "It seems—from their activity streams—that Andrew and postmodern are probably friends or at least virtual friends."
<andrewvos> Aww man
<andrewvos> haha
<andrewvos> Where is postmodern <3 <3
<andrewvos> "With this in mind, it's worth noting that postmodern submits pull requests less frequently."
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<NemesisD> hey guys. i need good example of ruby client libraries for web services. going to include them in a spec for one i'm having designed
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<NemesisD> so far i have harvested and the ruby client for librato
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<injekt> derp
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<NemesisD> rickhull: oh sorry. i don't mean generic HTTP clients, i mean api clients for a particular web service
<NemesisD> also i disagree that rest-client is a good library but that's neither here nor there
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<injekt> knu0: ping
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<tenderlo_> ged: ping!
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<tenderlove> oops
<injekt> knu0: nvm, see mech/304
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<drbrain> does anyone have a 32 bit ruby?
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<drbrain> oh, I do!
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<zenspider> minitest version 5.0.2 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/05/minitest-version-5-0-2-has-been-released.html
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<Aloysius1> What besides 'require' in a Gemfile is necessary to make a feature usable to some Ruby code?
<drbrain> an entry in a Gemfile is not necessary
<Aloysius1> er not, require but "gem"
<Aloysius1> OK. So...
<drbrain> a Gemfile is not necessary at all
<drbrain> whatever you put in require 'here' must be in $LOAD_PATH as a file ending in ".rb" or ".so" or ".dll" or ".bundle"
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<Aloysius1> Well, let's say I do have a Gemfile.
<Aloysius1> And I specify a gem. It shows up on a "bundle install" with the right version.