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zenspider: beat me to it yet?
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<
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what version is it supposed to be?
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sora_h___ >
Is bb-m.rubygems.org down? It's raising "Network error while fetching" on `bundle install`
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erikh >
looks like it's meditating
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<
erikh >
best to ask in #rubygems
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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<
yorickpeterse >
sushee.no-ip.org/opensourceisnotawarzone.txt here, reading material
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<
yorickpeterse >
seeing how this channel is dead so far anyway
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andrewvos >
How do they even sentence
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<
andrewvos >
Hey how can I rename files as if they were text in vim?
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<
andrewvos >
Like, I want to see a list of files, and when I modify the names they should be renamed
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<
andrewvos >
That's a thing right
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<
andrewvos >
internet: ping
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<
yorickpeterse >
eh, what?
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<
yorickpeterse >
You mean in the file explorer?
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<
yorickpeterse >
If so, get NERDTree
12:19
<
andrewvos >
I dunno
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<
andrewvos >
No I don't want nerdtree
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<
andrewvos >
I use CTRL+P
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<
andrewvos >
Don't need another plugin
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<
yorickpeterse >
ctrl+p isn't a file browser
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<
yorickpeterse >
and nerdtree isn't a autocomplete dropdown for files matching a pattern
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<
yorickpeterse >
* an
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<
andrewvos >
But I thought vim could do this, for some reason
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<
yorickpeterse >
well, you can always use `rename`
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<
andrewvos >
yorickpeterse:
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<
yorickpeterse >
meh, if I wanted an OS as an editor I'd use Emacs
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<
andrewvos >
What do you use yorickpeterse?
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<
yorickpeterse >
Vim
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* yorickpeterse
does actually use NERDTree for basic file management
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yorickpeterse >
zzak: these cat videos are awesome
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zzak >
yorickpeterse: glad you like em
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<
yorickpeterse >
zzak: well what can I say, I like cats
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<
yorickpeterse >
or pets in general
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<
zzak >
besides people who are allergic
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<
manveru >
anybody got a clue what encoding "Ord\xC3\x83\xC2\xA1s" might be?
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manveru >
i've tried all in Encoding.list, but doesn't look like any matches
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<
matti >
Hey manveru
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matti >
manveru: Try iconv maybe.
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<
manveru >
iconv has the same list
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<
manveru >
pretty much anyway :)
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<
manveru >
this is some serious mojibake there
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bougyman >
manveru: that's not just encoding.
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<
bougyman >
it's got a leader and a footer.
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<
bougyman >
Ord and 1s
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<
bougyman >
they probably mean something?
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zzak >
manveru: are you still in germany?
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<
zzak >
manveru: so i take it you wont be at rubykaigi?
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<
manveru >
zzak: no way
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<
manveru >
it's in athens man
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<
yorickpeterse >
That's Euruko
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<
manveru >
but yeah, won't get to tokyo anytime soon
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<
yorickpeterse >
how's the job hunting?
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<
manveru >
just got a new project to work on
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manveru >
so i'll probably survive
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<
yorickpeterse >
Good to hear. We'll be hiring again very soon but that's for Amsterdam, which is a bit out of the way for you
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<
manveru >
can't say i would mind amsterdam :)
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<
manveru >
but i'm not gonna move that soon
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<
yorickpeterse >
yeah I figured
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ericwood >
I wonder if I should just abandon everything and go work in Europe
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ericwood >
I don't speak European, though, so I'd have to learn the language
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manveru >
don't worry, european is easy once you know latin
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yorickpeterse >
I hope you're trolling about "European" language
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<
ericwood >
I'm angry this morning
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<
injekt >
I hear they speak European in Canada too
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<
yorickpeterse >
Canadia
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injekt >
rindolf: has been slow all morning
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rindolf >
injekt: ah.
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<
injekt >
it does load after about a minute for me
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<
rindolf >
Is there a mirror?
13:23
<
yorickpeterse >
there's rubydoc.info
13:23
<
injekt >
rdoc.info for yard docs
13:23
<
yorickpeterse >
but it's a bit different
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<
manveru >
guess it uses some cdn?
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<
injekt >
manveru: loads for you?
13:24
<
ericwood >
yep, ruby-docs is down
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<
manveru >
js in header timeout or something
13:24
<
ericwood >
good thing I memorized them all
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<
ericwood >
are there good ruby jobs in like Belgium or something?
13:25
<
yorickpeterse >
haha belgium
13:26
<
ericwood >
they seem like nice people
13:26
<
ericwood >
surely they like ruby as much as I do
13:26
<
yorickpeterse >
ericwood: most of it is focused in the UK, Germany and NL (lot of Python)
13:26
<
ericwood >
and will pay me to like ruby
13:26
<
yorickpeterse >
and I suppose at those scumbags up north
13:26
<
apeiros >
ericwood: rubymotion is in belgium
13:26
<
ericwood >
I don't have $50 to spare
13:26
<
rindolf >
How can I read the Array documentation?
13:27
<
ericwood >
with your eyes
13:27
<
manveru >
vim array.c
13:27
<
apeiros >
in your shell
13:27
<
rindolf >
ericwood: :-P
13:27
<
apeiros >
s/read/access/
13:27
<
apeiros >
"with your fingers", bah…
13:27
<
rindolf >
= Array < Object
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<
rindolf >
(from gem activesupport-3.2.13)
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<
ericwood >
chmod ruby-docs.org +r
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<
ericwood >
wrong order of arguments
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<
ericwood >
whatever
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<
eval-in >
zzak => /tmp/execpad-b6a716eaba71/source-b6a716eaba71:2:in `<main>': undefined method `ri' for main:Object (NoMethodError) (
http://eval.in/30574)
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<
zzak >
>> help Array
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<
eval-in >
zzak => /tmp/execpad-ba870249d703/source-ba870249d703:2:in `<main>': undefined method `help' for main:Object (NoMethodError) (
http://eval.in/30575)
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<
zzak >
>> system("ri Array")
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<
yorickpeterse >
ericwood: what exactly would you be looking for? Also, where are you currently based?
13:28
<
apeiros >
aiiii, please don't
13:28
<
apeiros >
that'd be like huge
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<
apeiros >
though I think ze bot is restricted on output anyway
13:28
<
zzak >
Forbidden access to file `/usr/local/bin/ri'
13:28
<
ericwood >
yorickpeterse: I'm in Austin, and mostly I'm not serious about moving but I'm entertaining ideas
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<
manveru >
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/ri
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<
ericwood >
I'll probably go backpack around later this year, though
13:29
<
ericwood >
end of relationship --> I need to get the hell out of here
13:29
<
yorickpeterse >
get a cat
13:29
<
yorickpeterse >
post pictures online
13:29
<
ericwood >
I have a dog
13:30
<
yorickpeterse >
so?
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<
ericwood >
but I will be sharing custody
13:30
<
yorickpeterse >
heh
13:30
<
ericwood >
I'll probably stay in Austin for a while
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ericwood >
it's nice here, even if the summers are horrible
13:31
<
ericwood >
and there is lotsa rubay to keep me busy
13:31
<
ericwood >
so that's my morning rambling
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ericwood >
I hope you all enjoyed reading it
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<
ericwood >
I can't magically bring ruby-doc.org back
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ericwood >
that'd be a cool superpower, though
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injekt >
rindolf: me and yorickpeterse gave you links..
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rindolf >
injekt: to what?
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manveru >
there you go, all the docs are in there
13:33
<
ericwood >
rindolf: to funny cat pictures
13:33
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rindolf >
ericwood: I am not in a mood for jokes.
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<
ericwood >
now back to jokes...
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rindolf >
ericwood: thanks!
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<
rindolf >
ericwood++
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<
ericwood >
it was posted a while back
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<
ericwood >
sidenote: enabling clicking to switch between tabs/panes in tmux ruins iTerm's ability to cmd+click on URLs :(
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zzak >
ruby-doc.org will be back later
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<
ericwood >
...and in greater numbers
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<
zzak >
james is on PST, so he wont be around till later
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<
rindolf >
How do I find the first object in an array that matches a certain condition? I see index { |item| } which gives me the index, but I want the value or "Nil" or whatever if not found.
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rindolf >
injekt: thanks.
13:38
<
yorickpeterse >
rindolf: why so serious?
13:38
* yorickpeterse
runs
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<
rindolf >
yorickpeterse: well, I'm in a better mood now.
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<
injekt >
all this karma what do i spend it on
13:39
<
ericwood >
a trip to belgium
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<
injekt >
ugh been there, I'm good
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<
yorickpeterse >
injekt: cats
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<
ericwood >
and European language lessons
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ericwood >
injekt: is it worth visiting?
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<
injekt >
yorickpeterse: I prefer dogs
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<
ericwood >
serious question.
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injekt >
ericwood: I've heard great things, but the places I stayed in were terrible
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<
ericwood >
I'll probably stay in hostels
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yorickpeterse >
injekt: fine, go get some bitches
13:40
<
yorickpeterse >
(see what I did there?)
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ericwood >
injekt: the beer is heavenly, though
13:40
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injekt >
ericwood: Yup I did
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zzak >
ill hopefully be in belgium this october if my talk gets accepted to arrrcamp
13:40
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injekt >
zzak: I might be able to do that one! Wish I could do Japan
13:41
<
ericwood >
I think my trip will be based around visiting trappist brewers and sampling their brews
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ericwood >
then I will befriend the monks and have a jolly good time drinking with them
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injekt >
ericwood: I did a tour around Europe a few years back, Belgium was the last place, I think we were tired at this point
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yorickpeterse >
ericwood: so basically a giant pub crawl
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<
ericwood >
yorickpeterse: heh kinda
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ericwood >
but with lots of hiking
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ericwood >
I went to Switzerland last summer, it was amazing
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ericwood >
albeit really fucking expensive
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<
ericwood >
but hiking through the mountains was heavenly
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injekt >
zzak: then we can drink beer!
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<
ericwood >
the Swiss drink shit beer, though
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zzak >
injekt: just in time for octoberfest, right?
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injekt >
zzak: :D:D:D
13:43
<
injekt >
oktoberfest ftw!
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ericwood >
isn't it usually just a bunch of drunk americans, though?
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injekt >
ericwood: the UK do their bit
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<
injekt >
we like beer here
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<
zzak >
drink all the beers
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<
ericwood >
beer is becoming more mainstream here
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<
injekt >
and whiskey. lots of whiskey
13:44
<
ericwood >
Texas has quite the craft brewing scene as of late
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<
ericwood >
it makes me so happy :')
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zzak >
ericwood: did you get hit by that tornado?
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ericwood >
there were tornadoes?
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<
ericwood >
we didn't even get rain
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zzak >
it was north texas right?
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<
ericwood >
the northies
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ericwood >
Austin is immune to weather
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ericwood >
sometimes
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rindolf >
How can I get a list of the indexes in an array?
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yorickpeterse >
rindolf: that's just a range from 0 to LENGTH
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<
rindolf >
yorickpeterse: thanks.
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<
yorickpeterse >
an exclusive range that is
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<
rindolf >
yorickpeterse: not LENGTH-1?
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<
rindolf >
yorickpeterse: well, it includes 0.
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<
yorickpeterse >
>> numbers = [10, 20, 30]; indexes = (0...numbers.length)
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yorickpeterse >
eh yeah, -1 in that case
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erikh >
0..numbers.length
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<
erikh >
one less dot and no math required
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<
erikh >
>> numbers = [1,2,3]; (0..numbers.length)
15:11
<
erikh >
eval-in: die
15:11
<
erikh >
I haven't been writing go for THAT long
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<
erikh >
injekt: thinking about porting all the things
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erikh >
dunno, I'm not doing chef anymore for work, so I have less of a need for ruby
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rindolf >
Thanks all for your help - it's working now.
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whitequark >
erikh: what's instead chef?
15:26
<
erikh >
whitequark: puppet at this place
15:26
<
erikh >
(which isn't really much in teh way of ruby, even though it runs on it)
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<
whitequark >
ah right
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<
whitequark >
erikh: I thought about learning chef (chef-solo?) so that I could configure my server and (linux) desktop alike from scratch with as low fuss as possible
15:28
<
whitequark >
do you think it's a good idea?
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15:30
<
erikh >
yep, I do that here
15:30
<
erikh >
I think it's a great idea
15:30
<
erikh >
whitequark: sec, I've got a link for you
15:30
<
erikh >
a guy I used to work with made this
15:31
<
erikh >
great way to get started.
15:31
<
erikh >
just remember, in chef, the block portions almost always run in instance_eval
15:31
<
erikh >
I can say this and know you know what it means, not something I get to do all the time
15:33
<
whitequark >
oh, thanks
15:33
<
whitequark >
it's os x but I could probably learn a lot from this
15:33
<
erikh >
yep, they use it for os x
15:33
<
erikh >
oh, you use linux
15:33
<
yxhuvud >
erikh: I like the idea of a wizard, but the selection of tools o_O
15:33
<
erikh >
yeah, it'll probably easier
15:34
<
erikh >
yxhuvud: he built it for pivotal
15:34
<
erikh >
so that's what they use I guess
15:34
<
whitequark >
erikh: I value being able to do strange things with my computers more than anything else :p so yes
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erikh >
whitequark: have you seen smartos?
15:35
<
erikh >
if you have an ivy bridge-based box, holy crap
15:35
<
erikh >
using it here for all my vms
15:35
<
erikh >
that and project-fifo.com
15:35
<
erikh >
or .net, can't remember now
15:35
<
erikh >
it is so awesome
15:36
<
erikh >
and it's solaris, which instantly makes it better than linux
15:36
<
whitequark >
erikh: ivy bridge indeed... bought it exactly for running hypervisors
15:37
<
whitequark >
however xen sucks as it breaks ACPI S3 with Linux dom0
15:37
<
erikh >
you should
*definitely* check smartos out then
15:37
<
erikh >
smartos is a proper hypervisor that doesn't take shit from anything
15:37
<
whitequark >
i like most things about xen, but this makes it unusable for me :/
15:37
<
erikh >
it's what runs joyent public cloud
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<
whitequark >
erikh: can it do proper PCI passthrough?
15:38
<
whitequark >
as in... pci passthrough plus proper memory cacheability configuration
15:38
<
whitequark >
need this for discrete GPU to work properly.
15:38
<
erikh >
oh, probably not.
15:38
<
erikh >
it's for servers, yo
15:38
<
whitequark >
well, VT-d was originally for servers :p
15:38
<
erikh >
yeah, it doesn't do VT-d.
15:39
<
whitequark >
then, yeah, no.
15:39
<
erikh >
you don't need it
15:39
<
erikh >
only if you use the lunix
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<
whitequark >
well, I'm going to run a linux vm inside? I'm used to the software stack plus I use some proprietary stuff which only has linux versions
15:40
<
whitequark >
that could range from steam to xilinx ise
15:40
<
erikh >
smartos has a full kvm port in it, but it runs hvm style
15:40
<
erikh >
linux, that is
15:40
<
whitequark >
I got it, yeah
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<
whitequark >
then I'd rather use kvm on a directly booted linux... seems that this is the only configuration which works for me.
15:40
<
erikh >
yeah, that makes sense
15:41
<
erikh >
oh, you see docker yet?
15:41
<
erikh >
that might be better for you.
15:41
<
erikh >
docker.io IIRC
15:42
<
erikh >
whitequark: you could also help me finish my furnish project
15:42
<
whitequark >
I'm not sure... I use vms for both isolation and running other oses
15:42
<
erikh >
which is a generic system for provisioning machines
15:42
<
erikh >
where machine can run on, well, anything.
15:42
<
whitequark >
it's quite handy for e.g. running a windows guest, then doing USB passthrough and spying on communication
15:43
<
whitequark >
erikh: link to furnish?
15:43
<
erikh >
github.com/chef-workflow/furnish
15:43
<
erikh >
there's a bunch of addons in the chef-workflow org
15:43
<
erikh >
I just got rid of the vagrant dependency for virtualbox
15:43
<
erikh >
but I've been taking a break for a few weeks.
15:44
<
erikh >
vmware fusion is next, but you could write kvm or lxc support
15:44
<
whitequark >
I'm not sure I get it
15:44
<
whitequark >
what would you use furnish for?
15:44
<
erikh >
building 5 machines, making one a chef server, 4 chef clients, 2 syslog servers and 2 syslog clients
15:44
<
erikh >
stuff like that.
15:45
<
erikh >
it's embeddable
15:45
<
erikh >
so you can just make your ruby script -- no need for vagrantfiles or w/e
15:45
<
erikh >
that palsy lib I was telling you about the other day was built for it
15:45
<
whitequark >
eh... I don't really have an idea of what's going on in the opsland
15:45
<
erikh >
np. it's an automation tool more or less.
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apeiros >
why should it not happen?
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yorickpeterse >
rindolf: you know how shell commands work, right?
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rindolf >
yorickpeterse: I do.
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rindolf >
yorickpeterse: OK, I found out I need to put bindings.pry
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yorickpeterse >
yes, Pry doesn't autostart
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: how's foundry coming along?
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: a bit slow... there's some RL issues
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whitequark >
however I promised to deliver something working at the mid-July and I'm going to work hard to fulfill that.
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whitequark >
as you can see I at least improve parser :]
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yorickpeterse >
heh yeah
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: do you know of any decent resources for ruby-llvm (basic ones that is)? The samples/ dir is a bit confusing and the book "Creating your own programming language" (from the Thin guy) is basically just a big blob of code
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yorickpeterse >
"Here's some Ruby LLVM, fuck you
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: llvm.org
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whitequark >
ruby-llvm is (currently at least) meant to be a thin wrapper around LLVM C API
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jaimef >
def find_by_attr(attr, value) { @somehash.select { |i,r| r.attr = value } } # how can I dereference the argument attr to worker properly in this context?
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matti >
zzak: Are you being attacked by a cat? ;]
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matti >
zzak: He looks grumpy.
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matti >
tenderlove: Is that your cat attacking zzak? ;]
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matti >
Or is that you?
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tenderlove >
hahaha
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matti >
No, not you. No, not your cat?
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matti >
No, not zzak.
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* matti
even more confused.
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zzak >
tenderlove: rubykaigi cat show?
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matti >
Now I want to give tenderlove a hug too.
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andrewvos >
matti: Hey winky
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andrewvos >
Err I mean person that winks a lot
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andrewvos >
That did not go how I expected
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matti >
andrewvos: :)
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<
GSilva >
can someone tell me why can't I open Ruby, rvm or shoes?
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bougyman >
shoes is still alive?
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GSilva >
I tried installing that bougyman, dunno
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GSilva >
I'm new to programing and stuff
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GSilva >
Just want to learn enough to make an application I need
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andrewvos >
GSilva: What app do you want to make? Describe it and then we'll tell you how you're using the wrong thing :)
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GSilva >
it's a business internal software
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andrewvos >
Can you not make it as a website?
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GSilva >
it's basicly a software to consult lots of data
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andrewvos >
An internal site?
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andrewvos >
The thing with making actual applications is you can't easily get all users to update at the same time.
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GSilva >
Well, my brother, programer, recommend ruby for being easy, safe and pretty much easy to write
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andrewvos >
I mean, you can do it, but it will take lots of thought.
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GSilva >
I'm the manager
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andrewvos >
Yeah, you should totally use ruby
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GSilva >
so people will get used to it :)
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andrewvos >
yeah but they won't like it
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andrewvos >
Though I may be wrong there
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GSilva >
That doesn't botter me much
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andrewvos >
But trust me, making a web app is the easiest option
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GSilva >
and people who work with me are young fellaws, so they'll get used to it
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<
GSilva >
but, the most important question
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<
GSilva >
is there any tutorial working on Ubuntu 13?
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andrewvos >
For shoes in particular?
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GSilva >
I've tried 4 different tutorials to install Rails
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GSilva >
I don't care if it is for shoes or boots... I mean, I just want the thing working...
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andrewvos >
Ok, so you're going to display some data?
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GSilva >
like what?
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andrewvos >
I'm asking, is that what you want this thing to do?
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GSilva >
well, to start and to learn rubys language... yeah
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GSilva >
I'm pretty new on programing, so, appart from HTML, it's the first language I'm learning
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andrewvos >
Okay, well I think you should probably do some reading on Ruby first. If you know HTML then definitely use sinatra. Sinatra is for making simple websites and I think it will be a lot easier learning it than rails.
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andrewvos >
And you'll learn how things work
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whitequark >
in other words, unshift is faster than push+reverse for practically any number of elements
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whitequark >
shouldn't unshift actually shift each element each time?
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GSilva >
basicly, andrewvos, I've changed OS to have a more stable one to use something that simple? Don't think so :P
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GSilva >
and I barely remember from HTML
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andrewvos >
Ok well all I'm trying to tell you is that sinatra is a nice starting point for learning
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GSilva >
learning Ruby?
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GSilva >
I've seen it on their website
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GSilva >
okay, I'll try to install that
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<
whitequark >
er #0152
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whitequark >
*#1052
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andrewvos >
I don't see much of a speed difference whitequark
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whitequark >
andrewvos: ruby version?
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andrewvos >
ruby 1.9.3p194 (2012-04-20 revision 35410) [x86_64-darwin12.2.1]
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whitequark >
update the gist
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<
whitequark >
F5 that is
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whitequark >
4x is a difference
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andrewvos >
The 1000 batch, yeah ;/
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whitequark >
well, 2x
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andrewvos >
IS there a gem that takes some images and makes a gif?
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andrewvos >
Or can I use imagemagick to draw a whole lot in memory and gif them up?
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andrewvos >
I suppose I'll do some more googling, but feel free to answer of course
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bjb_credil >
I wrote a little c extension for ruby, and it calls into another library. I can build it but when I try to run a script that calls the c extension, I get ruby: symbol lookup error: /home/bjb/projects/gstreamer/bind/ext/mygst/Mygst.so: undefined symbol: gst_event_new_custom (the external library is libgstreamer and the function I'm trying to call is gst_event_new_custom)
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bjb_credil >
What do I have to do to the makefile so that ruby finds the extra library?
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drbrain >
bjb_credil: did you put have_library in your extconf.rb?
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bjb_credil >
I tried adding -lgstreamer-0.10 (or -lgstreamer-1.0) to LOCAL_LIBS but it didn't help
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bjb_credil >
No ... I'll give that a try, thanks drbrain
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bjb_credil >
great, I was just going to ask : -) thanks drbrain
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drbrain >
bjb_credil: with have_library 'pcap', ruby will automatically add -lpcap to LIBS in the generated Makefile
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bjb_credil >
While we're improving my abilities with extconf: what can I add to it to have extra include files put into the Makefile?
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bjb_credil >
include directories, I mean
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drbrain >
bjb_credil: as dependencies?
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drbrain >
I always to $CFLAGS << " -I wherever"
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drbrain >
let's see if there's a better way
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bjb_credil >
-I/usr/include/gstreamer-0.10
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bjb_credil >
on phone
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drbrain >
bjb_credil: I think you would do: ruby extconf.rb --with-gstreamer-include=/usr/include/gstreamer-0.10
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drbrain >
but it looks like you can use dir_config also
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bjb_credil >
drbrain, thanks! --with-gstreamer-include looks great, and I will look at the nokigiri thing
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bjb_credil >
nokogiri: quite the exciting extconf file
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drbrain >
it's probably the most robust extconf.rb in existence
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darix >
drbrain: assuming $prefix/lib is bad imho
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bjb_credil >
woohoo, my first segfault. Progress.
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drbrain >
darix: if you can show how to break it for some platform I bet it will get fixed :)
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drbrain >
bjb_credil: I have become good enough at C extensions that my first segfault comes distressingly late
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darix >
drbrain: i am not in the mood to break things atm. i just ran into problems with that assumption enough already. we use lib64, debian i have heard even uses lib-<archname>.
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darix >
though in the libxml case you probably get saved by the pkg-config stuff :)
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bjb_credil >
So, the reason I'm trying to do this is because I want to use a function in libgstreamer that the existing ruby bindings don't cover - gst_event_new_custom. But, if I make a library that calls into libgstreamer then I have to initialize my library. But, my ruby app already talks to libgstreamer and presumably initializes it - I guess I just want to extend the ruby bindings. Without having to recompile the existing bindings. Is that
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bjb_credil >
Or should I ask this in #gstreamer?
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bjb_credil >
I basically want to poke an element and have it send me back an EOS message. I already tried sending EOS event but it didn't like it - "not allowed" or similar (presumably because EOS is not UPSTREAM type of event)
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drbrain >
#gstreamer may help some with that, but it sounds like you want to patch the existing libgstreamer binding
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