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ok, dont think it will, but ill make sure
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if it's part of a library used by others, the user may expect their inputs won't be modified
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and most of the code I write is "library code"
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micalexander >
well I had an issue doing multiple replaces on one string and need to gsub! cause it wouldn't stick
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then you would need to chain gsubs (find_and_replaces)
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micalexander >
example
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input = "abcde"; first = find_and_replace(input, /[aoeu]/, " vowel: '\\&'"); second = find_and_replace(first, /[^aoeu]/, " consonant: '\\&'")
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ha, I can't vowel
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"abcde".gsub(/[aeiou]/, " vowel: '\\&'").gsub(/[^aoeiu]/, " consonant: '\\&'")
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drbrain: Hi..I'm simply filling all my windows with spaces inorder to give them backgrounds. But I can't do this for the main default window
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julian_ >
drbrain: Hi..I'm simply filling all my windows with spaces inorder to give them backgrounds. But I can't do this for the main default window
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thought I wasn't logged in :P
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Anyway, I can't run maxx maxy (needed to find how many spaces I need) on the default window
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has to be win1.maxx
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can't be maxx on its own
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does the default window exist as an object?
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julian_: Curses.lines and Curses.cols
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julian_ >
thankyoou
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jj_reddit4 >
when implementing a User resource, what's your thought process on implementing your MVC?
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jj_reddit4 >
Did anyone reply to the User resource question? My connection got cut off earlier
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drbrain, are you behind memegenerator.net, or just a client lib?
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i'm getting .NET errors, just curious
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awkwords >
some objects in my array are nil, how can i test to make sure all objects in the array are nil?
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rickhull >
ary.compact.empty?
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awkwords >
>> newarray.empty?
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awkwords >
=> false
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rickhull >
>> [nil, nil, nil].compact.empty?
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[1,2,3,nil].compact.empty?
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rickhull: just the lib
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>> [1,2,3,nil].compact.empty?
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>> Array.new.empty?
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is there a way to search history in the irc
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some websites maintain logs
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you'll have to find someone actively logging and publishing those logs
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ah.. #ruby is logged officially, guess #ruby-lang isn't
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jrobeson >
oh.. it's in the header for #ruby ,just not here
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jrobeson >
s/header/topic/
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your statement about "officially" may nonetheless be quite accurate
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rickhull >
i.e. whitequark may not have dedicated his resources to this task officially
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well in #ruby it says . no other loggers allowed, so that sounds official
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the rubiest way question...is it ok to pass an argument as a hash with just the curly braces (without declaring it ) like method({ arg: "one", arg2: "two"}) ?
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micalexander >
Ive noticed that it works
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micalexander: it's ok
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micalexander >
instead of method( hash = { arg: "one", arg2: "two"})
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micalexander >
ok cool
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drbrain >
you can also method(rage: 'one', arg2: 'two')
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drbrain >
err, arg:
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micalexander >
ok so with out the braces, youre saying
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micalexander >
drbrain: is the any expense to doing it this way?
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drbrain >
micalexander: nothing noticeable
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drbrain >
it is cheapest to method(arg1: 'one', arg2: 'two') but you'll have a very difficult time measuring it
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drbrain >
measuring the difference
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micalexander >
drbrain: cool, sometimes I wonder if all this syntactical sugar slows ruby down any
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micalexander >
cool
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mistym: ah-ha
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julian_ >
can I create a variable inside a method?
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rickhull >
a variable created inside a method is local to that method
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rickhull >
not visible outside of the method
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rickhull >
also, you'll need to understand a bit about variable reference and assignment
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rickhull >
so, when you pass @my_varaible to meth, variable_name is just an alias to @my_varaible
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however, as soon as you do assignment on variable_name, you're losing the alias to @my_varaible
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rickhull >
so on the one hand, variable_name is a formal argument to the method
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rickhull >
if you don't do assignment on it, then it's just another "name" or "handle" for the chunk of data that @my_varaible represents
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rickhull >
for example, you could mutate it. that means changing the chunk of data, without doing an assignment
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rickhull >
if you mutate it, then the change you make inside the method will be visible outside the method
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rickhull >
i.e. @my_varaible's data chunk will be likewise changed
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rickhull >
but once you do an assignment to variable_name, you lose the connection to the outside thing that was passed in
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rickhull >
gotta run, hope this helps julian_
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rickhull >
one more thing, i said that "a variable created inside a method is local to that method"
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rickhull >
on line 1 of your paste, you are not creating variable_name. it's a formal method parameter
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rickhull >
however, on line 2, by assigning to variable_name, even though it was a formal parameter, you're now effectively "creating a variable local to the method"
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gotta run
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looking at Rubinius description. undefined object == any object. why would you do that
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ledestin: ^= Reminded me of that
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mistym: Doesn't work in Chrome. I wonder what Js engines do allow it.
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mistym: my, my. I feel that the elegance of Ruby was thrown out of the window if Integer#== undefined => true
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TheMoonMaster: You're right actually, I can't get it to work in Firefox or Safari. Wonder if it's been changed in the last ~3 years
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I'm assuming so.
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TheMoonMaster >
I also testing in FF and Safari.
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I think IE would probably allow it.
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I booted up my IE8 VM and it totally works.
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ugh this redesign is going to be a PITA for a while it seems
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heftig >
I guess the reason gem is so slowass is because of its tar implementation?
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gnufied: yeah. even just unpacking a gem takes a second or two
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it spends most of the time in talking to the webservers
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and doing rdoc of course
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heftig_: try gem install --no-rdoc --no-ri
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for major speed up
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darix: I'm already using -N
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HOw can I create a variable inside a method?
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julian__1: why?
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the way you pass the variable name
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your code is basically the same as just doing @variablename = value
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When i create a new file, why does ruby tell me 'warning, already initialized constant File' ?
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it works, it just gives me that warning as well
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ErwinNH: what do you mean by create a new file? code?
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you can't/shouldn't name your class File
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File=File.new('init.rb', 'w+')
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file, not File
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ErwinNH: because you redefine `File`
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after your line, File.new will no longer work, because you just redefined it :)
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Hmm, ok. Thanks. I thought this was what the tutorial I saw told me to do, but maybe I remember it wrong.
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ErwinNH: also you know about the block form?
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ErwinNH: File.new(.... ) do |fh| ... end
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Hey, I'm new to ruby and have been struggling to write a script that makes a POST request with a cookie and data in tow to an API using HTTPS , anyone able to help with this? (I've been trying to use rest-client library for this.)
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vky: how do you get that cookie?
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darix: A previous POST request sending login info, that request I was able to get working.
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vky: use mechanize
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it gives you a programatic webbrowser which handles all the cookie handling for you
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darix: okay, I'll give that a look, thanks.
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is there a way to do hash[:foo, :bar] << "some value" where both keys get set
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to "some value"
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or if they already have values then it'd be concatenated
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ok. now I really need a name for this cmdline option. it adds an extra newline to flog output so that editors like rubymine can see the file:line and properly hyperlink it.
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foucist: do it twice, with each key
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originally named it --regexps-are-hard, then --inferior-editor...
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I'm afraid ppl don't get my humor
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heftig/foucist: that, and hash = Hash.new { |h,k| h[k] = [] } (or a string)
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