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anyone ever written a gem that needed to depend on a gem that hasn't been pushed, so it needs to depend on a git repo instead? seems like add_dependency() doesn't support that in the gemspec
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the issue is basically that the other gem maintainer hasn't pushed a new release out, and I patched their stuff
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hfp: It yields once to the block, so it makes sense that it would be executed once
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mistym: Yes but I mean it makes no sense to write it like that, right?
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hfp: Oh. Yes.
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hfp >
mistym: This is suppose to explain me the concept of proc vs blocks... I'm still confused.
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procs and blocks are basically the same thing.
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whitequark >
def Proc.new(&block) block end
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whitequark >
you could implement it like that.
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whitequark: Now I want Ruby 2.1 to see what that's actually defined as
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whitequark >
uh, you need 2.1 for that?
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whitequark >
which is exactly what I wrote, but in C.
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Right, I guess I've never seen the def keyword used for anything other than a method.
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it's a singleton def
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>> Object.new.tap { |o| def o.foo; 1; end }.foo
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I'm lost... It says "you can also convert symbols to procs using that handy little &". Now, why would I want to do that??
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>> [1,2,3].map(&:to_s)
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handy.
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>> foo = [1,2,3]; foo.map.to_i!
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>> foo = [1,2,3]; foo.map.to_s!
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>> foo = [1, 2, 3]; foo.map { |x| x.to_s }
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whitequark; Ok so this ^ would be equivalent to what you wrote
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It just makes it more concise and cleaner to write it the way you did. Am I missing the point?
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whitequark >
you're right
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Ok. Why did my second eval fail? I don't understand when you can stack methods one after another and when you can't. Could anyone clarify please?
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For instance, this works:
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>> foo = "bAr"; foo.upcase.downcase
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Are there "families" of methods that are compatible and others incompatible?
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hfp it's related to the receiver
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banister`sleep >
hfp you gradually learn what methods a class supports
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banister`sleep >
hfp check out things like String and Enumerable and Array though
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to get a basic sense of the most important core classes
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banister`sleep: ok, thanks
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Thanks for your help tonight, I have to get some sleep now.
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Good night all!
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I have a quick Ruby question. Is anyone around?
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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oddmunds >
Seanny123: ask away
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Seanny123 >
Thanks. I just found an article that I think is letting me help myself.
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Seanny123 >
Took me awhile to think of the vocab to Google... I'm having one of those days...
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oddmunds >
ok. next time you don
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oddmunds >
don't need to wait for anyone to be around, just ask your question
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Seanny123 >
Will do.
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Seanny123 >
I'm having problems with code blocks.
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Seanny123 >
I've never used a language that had them before, so I'm getting stuck with vocab
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Seanny123 >
Here is my code and desired output
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Seanny123 >
I guess I want to return a value from a yield?
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whitequark >
also, use two spaces for indenting.
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Seanny123 >
So I just have to make sure my block variable is declared at the end of my block. There's no more elegant way of doing this?
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whitequark >
Seanny123: no, it's not about declaration
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whitequark >
the value of the last expression in the block is implicitly returned
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whitequark >
you could write, for example, 1 + 2 there.
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whitequark >
puts returns nil
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Seanny123 >
Thanks. I get it now.
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Silex >
is ruby 2.0 particularly slow compared to 1.9.3? gem install rails is taking forever
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yorickpeterse >
No, it should be faster at the very least
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Silex >
Weird. Maybe network issue or smth
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maloik >
oh god IBAN validations are weird
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maloik >
took me forever to figure this out
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apeiros >
maloik: gem install iso-iban
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maloik >
yea it's gotta be javascript
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maloik >
I was stripping the script I found from everything I don't need
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maloik >
but it's written a bit... strange
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apeiros >
oh, wow, 0.0.3's ISO::IBAN.valid? is broken :(
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apeiros >
gotta fugbix
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maloik >
does it have tests ?
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maloik >
might take a look then (unless you're actually doing that now ?)
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apeiros >
obviously I either have <100% coverage or I omitted to run them before release 0:-)
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apeiros >
should be a small bug
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maloik >
oh that's your gem :-)
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apeiros >
zenspider: why the heck does `require 'test/unit'` emit a warning "you should require 'minitest/autorun' instead."? (hint: no, I don't want to require minitest/autorun…)
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apeiros >
hrm, more broken… updating minitest… maybe it's known and resolved
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apeiros >
nope - nothing to update…
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apeiros >
wtf? zenspider, installing minitest breaks test/unit in ruby 2.0-p247
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apeiros >
submitted an issue on github. uninstalling minitest helps for now.
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apeiros >
maloik: interesting, the bug occurs when the input is wildly invalid
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maloik >
going to implement after lunch, I hope
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maloik >
having one of 'those' days
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apeiros >
bug is fixed
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apeiros >
the bug happened when the iban was shorter than 5 characters
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apeiros >
parts of the validation already required "long enough" input in order to work
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apeiros >
maloik: published. iso-iban 0.0.4 now works with 'foo' as iban input too :)
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yorickpeterse >
what's next, EngineYard moving over to Go?
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blowmage >
apeiros: test/unit on ruby 1.9+ is built on top of minitest 4, and you probably installed minitest 5, which has a slightly different api and emits warnings when using the old api
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apeiros >
blowmage: not just probably. I did install minitest 5
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apeiros >
blowmage: if it was just warnings, ok - but it breaks.
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apeiros >
(technically I did not install minitest 5 - it must have been a dependency on some other gem I installed)
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maloik >
todo1: 'add validation for X'
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maloik >
todo2: 'add validation for X, Y, Z'
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maloik >
todo3: 'remove Y'
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maloik >
I need to learn to read ahead
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blowmage >
apeiros: looks like test/unit is abusing the internals of minitest, which changed with minitest 5
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blowmage >
i hear ruby 2.1's version of test unit won't be built on minitest
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apeiros >
blowmage: ok. but I fear even if stdlib is in the wrong, the party which has to provide a fix is seattlerb…
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blowmage >
apeiros: or you could set a dependency on minitest 4 in your gemfile, to make it explicit
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apeiros >
blowmage: while installing the test-unit gem removes the exception, it also breaks the behavior of test/unit.
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blowmage >
what behavior is changed?
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apeiros >
and if a change to minitest breaks stdlib, which can be fixed by installing an updated version of the stdlib as a gem, then IMO it belongs into minitest as a dependency.
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apeiros >
blowmage: I can only tell the result right now - my testsuite no longer outputs anything.
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apeiros >
and since I'll be on a high-pressure project for at least another 2 weeks, I'll not really have time to investigate
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apeiros >
blowmage: thanks for taking your time btw., much appreciated
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blowmage >
i would suggest pinning your project to minitest 4 then
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apeiros >
and sorry if I come off rude. while I'm indeed a bit annoyed, it's not intended to be against you.
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blowmage >
and i'm pretty sure zenspider would say it't test-unit's fault for mucking with minitest's internals
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blowmage >
for instance, i have apps that break if something requires test-unit, because it
_changes_ how minitest works
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blowmage >
it doesn't subclass and change, it outright monkeypatches and changes minitest
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apeiros >
blowmage: sure it's test-units fault. but that doesn't change that he breaks a stdlib by his change.
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apeiros >
i.e., it's the finger pointing is not my concern. Observed behavior is that installing minitest breaks stdlib.
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blowmage >
yeah, i see your point, but i don't think restricting change is appropriate either. its a rough spot. should be better in ruby 2.1 afaik
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apeiros >
blowmage: "should be better in 2.1" doesn't help any 2.0 or 1.9 user.
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apeiros >
and reality is that people will use 2.0 and 1.9
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blowmage >
so pin a dependency on minitest 4.7 in your project
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apeiros >
so I have to add a dependency for something I don't even use… it's a workaround. but it's not good.
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blowmage >
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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apeiros >
and the dependency is insufficient. I'll have to activate the 4.7 minitest gem too.
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apeiros >
(again, even though I'm not even using it)
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blowmage >
apeiros: remote pair?
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apeiros >
I don't follow…
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blowmage >
do you want to remote pair so we can discuss and fix this?
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apeiros >
I would like to, but I can't. I'm already working overhours for this project :(
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apeiros >
if the issue is still open at the beginning of december, feel free to ping me. I have already requested 4w of holidays for december… (not sure I'll get the full time, though)
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maloik >
Any style geeks around? What editor settings should you agree on as a team, like soft tabs, tab size, trailing spaces and endofline at end of file? I mean the actual settings, not their values
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yorickpeterse >
indentation and line wrapping
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maloik >
in these cases I guess 99% of rubyists probably agree, but I'm looking for other settings I may be forgetting about
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yorickpeterse >
and naming conventions but that's pretty easy in Ruby land
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workmad3 >
maloik: 2 space soft tabs, no trailing whitespace, unix EOL
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maloik >
what do you mean by indentation and linewrapping ?
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yorickpeterse >
maloik: tabs vs spaces etc, and line wrapping as in at what char amount a new line should start
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huma >
yorickpeterse: hi :) how have you been doing?
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yorickpeterse >
huma: hola, good but busy
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huma >
yorickpeterse: ruby full time?
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yorickpeterse >
maloik: that gray line is set at 80 characters
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yorickpeterse >
huma: yup
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huma >
still in nl?
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maloik >
yorickpeterse: anything that isn't changed by some editors automatically I dont mind TOO much
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yorickpeterse >
huma: yeah
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yorickpeterse >
maloik: "changed by some editors"?
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huma >
yorickpeterse: rails involved?
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maloik >
putting together a little doc for sane settings so that our commit history isnt littered with things like "cleaning out empty lines" or "changes tabs to spaces"
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yorickpeterse >
huma: yeah, not really a way around that
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yorickpeterse >
maloik: right, then do this:
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yorickpeterse >
1) 2 spaces for indentation 2) wrap your lines (or not but then don't complain about it) manually 3) clean up trailing whitespace
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yorickpeterse >
LF vs CRLF is only an issue if you have Windows devs
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huma >
yorickpeterse: how's manvi? i haven't heard from him
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yorickpeterse >
huma: not sure, I haven't lurked in #ramaze for ages
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yorickpeterse >
he's still alive on GH though
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huma >
same here. hope he's happy go coding :)
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yorickpeterse >
it's not really strictly enforced
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there's also some language specific stuff
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huma >
yorickpeterse: you do sinatra for middleware?
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maloik >
yorickpeterse: trying to avoid value discussions, even though I agree in this case :)
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yorickpeterse >
huma: not at this point
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yorickpeterse >
maloik: what would you discuss otherwise?
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maloik >
like... if you were to use 3 spaces as a tab in your team, whatever, that's fine... as long as people all use the same
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yorickpeterse >
"Indent your code" - yeah no shit
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yorickpeterse >
Oh yeah, but that's what that document does
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yorickpeterse >
it's written down so people can refer to it
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maloik >
that's what I'm doing atm for our team
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yorickpeterse >
but at some point you have to set a value and whip people if they don't follow it
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maloik >
yea but I'm asking for inspiration about settings, seeing if I missed any
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maloik >
idc what value you use :-)
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yorickpeterse >
oh right
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yorickpeterse >
well, indentation, line endings, wrapping, that's about it I'd say
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yorickpeterse >
or should it also include stuff such as "how2gitcommit"?
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maloik >
nah not really
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maloik >
but yea those are the ones I came up with as well
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maloik >
like... it actually happened that a change to something small caused nearly all webserves to reload because trailing spaces were removed in one commit in the chef cookbooks
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maloik >
that's not too big of a deal but not something that should happen all the time
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maloik >
if it werent for that removal, 90% of webservers wouldn't have changed their configs
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yorickpeterse >
force people to let their editors remove it automatically
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yorickpeterse >
then it should in theory never even end up in Git
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yorickpeterse >
or w/e VCS you'd use
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maloik >
thats the goal of the document im writing
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maloik >
to have everyone remove them
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maloik >
(trailing spaces that is)
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maloik >
same with softtabs, tab size, EOL at end of file and so on
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yorickpeterse >
editorconfig does all that, haven't used it myself yet but I intend to
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judofyr >
yorickpeterse: cool. haven't seen that before.
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charliesome >
>> "+(binary)".to_sym
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charliesome >
discuss.
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judofyr >
>> "+(binary)".intern
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judofyr >
makes more sense
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judofyr >
>> :"+(binary)"
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judofyr >
didn't knew about
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yorickpeterse >
it requires more typing
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apeiros >
>> "+(unary).to_sym
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eval-in >
apeiros => /tmp/execpad-8b762eaadbd8/source-8b762eaadbd8:6:in `<main>': undefined local variable or method `e' for main:Object (NameError) (
https://eval.in/56744)
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apeiros >
>> "+(unary)".to_sym
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apeiros >
>> "+(prefix)".to_sym
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apeiros >
wasn't there one?
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apeiros >
I mean to get :+@
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judofyr >
I thought so as well
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charliesome >
yeah afaik there is
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hello, friends...would someone be kind enough to help me with a ruby environment question, an issue with its setup on linux, not code-related
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odogg: Don't ask to ask, just ask :) If someone can answer they will
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ok, so i have ruby 1.9.2, but i get an error saying Gem::InstallError: factory_girl requires Ruby version >= 1.9.2.
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odogg >
Make sure that `gem install factory_girl -v '4.2.0'` succeeds before bundling.
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odogg: what does ruby -v give you?
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ruby 1.9.2dev (2010-07-02) [x86_64-linux]
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Senjai >
Are you using rvm? or the system ruby? if your using the latter, you may need sudo/root priviledges to install gems
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odogg: 1.9.2dev != 1.9.2
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odogg: I'd suggest upgrading to ruby 2.0, or 1.9.3 at the very least
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odogg >
i tried and failed at installing 1.9.3
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i know very little about ruby, btw
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Use that, dont do it as root though
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err, I wouldnt reccomend it
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ruby version manager is great. And that will isntall ruby 2.0 automatically
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update-alternatives --config ruby shows that i have 1.8 in auto mode and 1.9.2 is manual mode
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rvm seems to detect my system as ubuntu, but it's not
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odogg: What is your system?
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debian-based
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odogg: Ubuntu is debian based ;) It shouldnt matter
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IT doesnt use a gui or anything
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so rvm pkg is deprecated...what should i do instead?
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rvm install 2.0
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ok, i got ruby 1.9.3p448 installed successfully, no let's see if that clears up factory_girl 4.2.0
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yay, a new error
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i get an error saying i need gem install pg -v '0.16.0'
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but i successfully installed 0.17.0
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odogg: okay, so gem install pg -v '0.16.0
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it says to do it with --with-pg-config=/path/to/pg_config
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and the pg_config for my application is 0.17.0
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ok, i think i'm good now, i specified -v '0.16.0' with the same pg_config file
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zzak >
my github feed is full of haxorz
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Bad feed, bad
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