apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p353: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p484) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<RickHull> zenspider: you're behind sadi.st right? i'm getting a rendering bug on Chrome
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<RickHull> also, heads up: https://gist.github.com/rickhull/7670502
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<RickHull> flog grabs sexp_processor 4.4.0 but heckle wants 3.2.0
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<RickHull> also, it looks like `flog` and `flay` handle directories pretty nicely. i'd give that usage as the first example on the webpage
<RickHull> flay lib rather than flay lib/*.rb
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<zenspider> rickhull: hee. I get the rendering bug in safari too. hrm... I should figure out how to fix that.
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<zenspider> iweb isn't exactly the right way to go anymore :/
<RickHull> was it ever? ;)
<RickHull> who's the other guy on About Us? i recognize your mug
<zenspider> drbrain
<RickHull> ha, just noticed that the top menu, which is where i found About Us, only renders on Flog.html
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<RickHull> er, wait, no that's just my js blocker
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<RickHull> the kittens page led me to tenderlove's blog, which I haven't read in a while, which lead me to a Linux Zealot cartoon and ultimately http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adequacy.org
<RickHull> ctrl-f Anthrax for a laugh
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<RickHull> do flog and flay recurse into subdirs?
<RickHull> non-lazy-me checks
<RickHull> confirmed flog and I assume flay
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<maloik_> welllllll... that just happened
<maloik_> mom called the office, ending our talk with "im happy youre still alive"
<maloik_> I didnt reply to her text yesterday...
<maloik_> (and didnt pick up my cell phone just now cause I knew what she was calling for and didn't want to be bothered)
<maloik_> "where are you?" - "im at work, duh"
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<gnufied> there is your mom joke in there somewhere
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<yorickpeterse> maloik_: awwww
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<andrewvos> ljarvis: Dude! Well done :)
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<yorickpeterse> the next step are 5 mini-lees
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<andrewvos> Dude he's english he probably already has 5
<yorickpeterse> haha
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<yorickpeterse> So yeah, setting up a forward proxy in Nginx is stupid easy
<yorickpeterse> shame it doesn't do HTTPS, have to use Squid for taht
<yorickpeterse> * that
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<momomomomo> Morning
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<maloik_> Does anyone know of a simple but clear example of methods accepting block arguments ?
<maloik_> (for context: "ruby for php developers" presentation)
<yorickpeterse> Array#each
<maloik_> I meant when writing your own :-)
<maloik_> Like, I don't think I've ever had to write a method that contained a block argument... so I can't come up with a good example
<apeiros> maloik_: reimplement Array#map
<maloik_> any others ?
<yorickpeterse> write a binary tree using machine learning in the cloud
<maloik_> okay I'm going to walk out now before you make me feel even dumber
<maloik_> :D
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<havenwood> maloik_: Array#fetch might be a nice example of args with also an optional block.
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<havenwood> maloik_: I don't think this is too hard to follow after explaining how #fetch works: class Hash; def grab key, &block; result = self[key]; result ? result : block.call end end; {aim: true}.grab(:nope) { :unknown } #=> :unknown
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<DefV> File.open
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<havenwood> DefV: ArgumentError: wrong number of arguments (0 for 1..3)
<DefV> :-)
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<benkhicks> maloik: you can omit a block argument in your method definition and use "yield if block_given?" in your method
<benkhicks> maloik: or yield a variable with "yield variable if block_given?"
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<crankharder> whats that damn array/enumerable method that returns two arrays, one for when the block is true and the 2nd for when the block is false
<akerl> partition?
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<crankharder> yea, that. i'm blind :/
<crankharder> ty
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<NemesisD> dude can someone explain to me why the ruby-lang security page does not show you how to sign up for the ruby security mailing list?
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<darix> NemesisD: which mailinglist?
<NemesisD> darix: security@ruby-lang.org
<darix> because you cant
<darix> it is for reporting bugs
<darix> if everyone could sign up there you would have all the script kiddies there too
<NemesisD> ok then. where should responsible devs subscribe to get security updates
<NemesisD> so just refresh that page every day?
<spike|spiegel> F5 F5 F5 F5
<NemesisD> seems good
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<akerl> NemesisD: Or you could use some kind of update syndication tool
<akerl> Nah, that would be cray
<spike|spiegel> almost retarded
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<darix> spike|spiegel: there is rss2email or so
<NemesisD> that does not look like security news
<darix> anyway
<darix> NemesisD: they are included too
<NemesisD> sorry if i'm coming across grumpy, just really surprised at the lack of channels for critical security issues
<akerl> Well that's because Ruby doesn't have any security issues
<darix> akerl: s/any/many/
<darix> NemesisD: i would start with the rss feed
<spike|spiegel> NemesisD: and you are only worried about "announced" issues? look at bug tracker, and might spot a bunch bugs silently fixed.
<darix> spike|spiegel: or just not noticed that it has security implications?
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<NemesisD> i'm only worried about the update-right-now issues
<NemesisD> don't care about most bug fixes, don't care about other ruby lang news
<darix> NemesisD: well the rss feed is the best we can give you out of the box
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<NemesisD> bummer. ok
<darix> NemesisD: you will have way more fun to get this for all the gems you might be using ;)
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<NemesisD> fair point, although ruby does have a greater responsibility
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<NemesisD> im kind of surprised there isn't a site that filters out this content. this solution is workable
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<darix> i think the most annoying ruby related security bug lately was that yaml/json fun at the beginning of the year and that was in the rails stack
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<darix> so
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<akerl> darix: That issue isn't specific to the rails stack, rails just happened to be an example of a big target that was treating YAML as trusted
<darix> akerl: true
<akerl> It's not even a ruby-specific issue
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<akerl> Lots of languages will parse code in loaded YAML/JSON
<darix> akerl: it was just annoying to get it fixed in all places :p
<spike|spiegel> dumbassery at it's finest.
<NemesisD> well they actually do have a mailing list that's just security announcements
<akerl> Truth
<NemesisD> i just assumed ruby had the same thing
<akerl> spike|spiegel: ?
<darix> NemesisD: jump on ruby core and suggest it?:)
<akerl> ^
<darix> (ruby core ML that is)
<akerl> I'd likely subscribe if it was a thing
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<doubleemms> Hi, all. I've got a somewhat nebulous question, and I'm not really sure where to turn. Hopefully, someone here can point me in the right direction. I'm trying to debug an application (written in Rails), and I'm having a heck of a time just trying to find the documentation for a particular function. I'm not sure if it's Rails, Ruby itself, or one of the gems in the project. It's turning out to be surprisingly hard
<doubleemms> search for the words ruby and parse.
<doubleemms> The line I'm trying to understand:
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<doubleemms> return_array.push(*parse(products_request)['products']) if requested?(@products_request)
<jrobeson> that's a bit much to put in one line..
<doubleemms> Can anyone tell me where I should go to read about the *parse() part?
<jrobeson> well the * is it's own thing
<jrobeson> btw rails has its own channel at #rubyonrails
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<doubleemms> Well, I'm not sure if it's Rails I'm looking for or not.
<doubleemms> I've been searching documentation for hours...
<doubleemms> I'm happy to read myself, I just don't know where to look.
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<workmad3> doubleemms: from that, 'parse()' is a method that returns an array (I'd guess)
<workmad3> doubleemms: and then * 'splats' the array into a parameter list for the .push method
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<doubleemms> workmad3: So, it's not a standard method of Ruby itself? It must come either Rails or a Gem...
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<workmad3> doubleemms: that 'parse' method is probably a method in your project
<workmad3> doubleemms: or a rails method, possibly
<workmad3> doubleemms: the * splat operator is standard ruby
<doubleemms> workmad3: Thank you.
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<jrobeson> oops.. i got distracted to mention what the * was ;)
<crankharder> doubleemms: grep -R def.*parse app/ config/ lib/ test/
<jrobeson> -r not -R ?
<crankharder> they're the same?
<crankharder> -R, -r, --recursive
<jrobeson> ah i didn't know -R was recursive also
* workmad3 always uses -R
<jrobeson> only use the uppercase for chmod,chown
<doubleemms> 'No matches found: def.*parse'
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<crankharder> you could... cd $GEM_HOME
<crankharder> and try a similar grepping of that path
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<cout> -R and -r are not the same
<cout> if you are running GREP on a TRS-80 you have to use the former
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<yorickpeterse> dat feel when you start to notice that setting up template repositories (for projects) and all testing crap is finally starting to pay off
<yorickpeterse> people actually use it *sniff*
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<yorickpeterse> even better, most of the tools for that use standard Youniks. I'll have none of that Ruby crap
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<matti> manveru: ?
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