#ruby-lang on 2013-11-30 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-11-22 18:08 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p353: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p484) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks

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00:06 <specialblend> hey guys what's the most shorthand way to inject values into a string template such as "Title: %s", value ?

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00:08 <apeiros> specialblend: %

00:08 <specialblend> apeiros: have an example or name of the technique I should search for? I'm drawing a blank

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00:08 <specialblend> apeiros: for syntax

00:08 <apeiros> % is a method

00:09 <specialblend> apeiros: ok thanks

00:09 <apeiros> so "Foo %s" % "value" invokes String#&

00:09 <apeiros> *String#%

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00:10 <specialblend> apeiros: ah ok, I got it now, thanks

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16:11 <dkorzhevin> Hi, please advice: i installed latest 1.9.3 from source on debian, but seems programs still trying to use old 1.9.1 libraries.. how can i change them?

16:12 <dkorzhevin> http://dpaste.com/1488273/

16:13 <ledestin> dkorzhevin: Debian has 1.9.3 packaged

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16:19 <havenwood> dkorzhevin: Instead of calling 1.9.3 stuff 1.9.3, Debian likes to confuse everyone and call is 1.9.1 after the library compatibility version. Then since nobody realized 1.9.2+ was available, they made it worse and aliased a 1.9.3 package to the 1.9.1 package that is actually 1.9.3.

16:19 <havenwood> dkorzhevin: If you point `update-alternatives` at 1.9.1 and you'll find yourself on 1.9.3. >.>

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16:21 <havenwood> dkorzhevin: And if you ever tire of this madness and want the latest stable Ruby, `ruby-install` and `chruby` make it easy. :)

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16:21 <r0bgleeson> havenwood: gotta keep making insane decisions to keep up with their packaging policy that clearly dont map to ruby

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16:23 <havenwood> r0bgleeson: do they really have to use 1.9.1 as the version (cringeworthy)? gem install that requires sudo? the mkmf omission?

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16:23 <havenwood> r0bgleeson: I've not been happy with Debian's Ruby package.

16:23 <apeiros> haven't met anybody who was

16:24 <dkorzhevin> havenwood: Where can i find more infogrmation about ruby-install ?

16:24 <r0bgleeson> havenwood: yup, it's stupid, they're trying to warp everything into a model that clearly doesn't translate into how ruby developers develop or work

16:24 <havenwood> dkorzhevin: https://github.com/postmodern/ruby-install#readme

16:24 <r0bgleeson> not everything is an "application"

16:24 <dkorzhevin> Thank you

16:25 <Violentr> hey guys ,do you know good websites to do pair programming on Ruby Rails ?

16:25 <havenwood> Violentr: Might try #rubyonrails channel.

16:25 <r0bgleeson> havenwood: the fact that the model is so resistent to change or being flexible is pretty sad

16:25 <Violentr> havenwood thanks

16:26 <ledestin> Violentr: http://www.pairprogramwith.me/

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16:27 <havenwood> saw Debian Ruby team had a goal to "make ruby2.0 default in jessie", so hopefully late 2014 will be good for Ruby on Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Ruby/Jessie

16:27 <Violentr> ledestin Thanks ;-)

16:28 <ledestin> Violentr: how much experience you've got in Rails? are you senior?

16:29 <r0bgleeson> are you senior, senor

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16:29 <ledestin> well, a senior

16:29 <r0bgleeson> why would "senior" matter?

16:29 <ledestin> I don't want somebody my level

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16:30 <r0bgleeson> why not?

16:30 <ledestin> I think I might not practice best practices, etc

16:30 <ledestin> I want to learn best practices

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16:31 <r0bgleeson> hm i see

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