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Inside a Proc, is there some way to access self in the caller's context? I thought maybe it was caller, but it seems not.
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jammanbo: you can execute the proc in another context with instance_exec
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that might do it
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jammanbo: or pass in the caller’s `binding` as a parameter to the proc
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jammanbo: the latter one is arguably slightly more dodgy
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yeah, I was trying to avoid the latter
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jammanbo: you mean something like `Proc.new { self_that_changes_depending_on_the_caller }` ?
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You'd have to use instance_exec / instance_eval for that like Burgestrand mentioned
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yorickpeterse: yeah
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looking into it now, thanks
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I have a platform-specific gem released for arm-linux, but rubygems is picking the pure-ruby version of my gem when I do gem install from my little arm-linux computer. Why? I have platform-specific gems for x86-linux, x86_64-linux, x86-mingw32 and universal-darwin too and they all are chosen correctly.
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looking good, thanks. Well … the code fairies are crying, but I'm getting my way :)
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Burgestrand: my guess is that it doesn't detect it as ARM
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Hm. Never mind, I think I just figured out why. Turns out `Gem.platforms` contain the gem platform “armv6l-linux”, but it does not match my “arm-linux”. i.e. armv6-linux !== arm-linux, but arm-linux === armv6-linux
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yorickpeterse: yeah, something similar to that ^
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heh
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I used to be able to override it, but now it appears bundler is more aware of platforms than it was half a year ago, so now bundler overrules my decision to install arm-linux gem, and installs the pure ruby version as well, and goes ahead and uses that. Bah.
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corecode >
is there a syntax to do a multi-level array destruct?
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corecode >
like [[a,b],[c,d]] = ary
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toretore >
yes, with ()
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t4nk407 >
i want to to install ruby using rbenv, but instalation takes too much time and cpu, why ?
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toretore >
foo, (bar, (baz, quux)) = [1, [2, [3,4]]]
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toretore >
t4nk407: it's compiling
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t4nk407 >
How much time it takes ?
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toretore >
until it's done
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corecode >
hehe, parentheses?
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corecode >
hail for asymmetrical syntax
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apeiros >
shoutout to people lamenting on syntax without understanding implications.
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t4nk407 >
@toretore is there anyway to skip compiling ?
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apeiros >
yes. skips installing ruby too, though :)
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t4nk407 >
oh, then i have to wait, right ?
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apeiros >
t4nk407: rvm has binary installs for some platforms/rubies
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whitequark >
corecode: you'd have to use `let' if you wanted it to be symmetric
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whitequark >
well, a prefix keyword
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whitequark >
or say goodbye to a LALR parser
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off for a bit
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corecode >
whitequark: :)
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yorickpeterse >
what's up with MRI 2.1 raising dumb errors for IO related stuff
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yorickpeterse >
"Connection reset by peer @ io_fillbuf - fd:11 "
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yorickpeterse >
the fuck is that io_fillbuf doing there
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yorickpeterse >
same goes when you try to read non existing files
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yorickpeterse >
"Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - foo"
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whitequark >
seems like it's trying to be helpful and give more info about the error
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yorickpeterse >
except the message is now super cryptic
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darix >
what is so cryptic about it?
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yorickpeterse >
It's cryptic in that it doesn't actually help me in any way
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yorickpeterse >
It also reads super goofy
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gnufied >
those error codes returned by system calls...
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gnufied >
so I dunno what ruby can do there.
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yorickpeterse >
It would be more useful if it said something like "No such file or directory: foo in rb_sysopen() at line #123123"
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yorickpeterse >
but even then it's totally useless because average Alice probably doesn't give a darn about the C function
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gnufied >
errno are universal and well understood return codes
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gnufied >
that work well across all unixes and languages
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yorickpeterse >
ok lets just return error codes in that case
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yorickpeterse >
that will totally work out fine
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yorickpeterse >
ERROR: 0x912389123908132
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yorickpeterse >
easy to google!
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gnufied >
you don't understand what errno is, then!
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yorickpeterse >
My point being, I don't see the added value of this stuff in error messages
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gnufied >
I see your point. :-)
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gnufied >
I am just trying to say, errno's are not ruby invented cryptic error codes, they have a universal meaning
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yorickpeterse >
I was talking about the "@ rb_sysopen" crap, not Errno::ENOENT
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c0d3_k1ra >
Can any body tell me how do i join irc channel for ruby on rails?
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apeiros >
c0d3_k1ra: you register your nick with nickser (/msg nickserv help)
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apeiros >
and then you can join
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c0d3_k1ra >
Thanks apeiros trying right away
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* apeiros
thinks they really should forward to a channel which informs newcomers about that
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apeiros >
though, IMO that should even be handled on ircd level
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yorickpeterse >
The trials of becoming a Rails "rockstar ninja turbo nerd" require you to first figure out how IRC works
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Then you need to clap your hands twice and say "Basecamp" at midnight in front of a mirror
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Then the ghost of Biggy Hansson comes and shows you the way
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ColdBlooder >
Hey. When i have a new struct stored, how cn i output it if it has a specific key?
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dean_fields >
Hi does anyone use and know of any tutorials/books/resources for the official elasticsearch gems?
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apeiros >
ColdBlooder: Struct#members gives you all attributes of a struct
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banister >
apeiros swiss salaries are huge
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banister >
apeiros i just out your average net salary is 4K
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banister >
which is more than twice the dutch monthly salary
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apeiros >
banister: swiss living cost are huge
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banister >
apeiros but apparently your living costs are huge, ya
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banister >
apeiros so i should work remotely for a swiss company \o/
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apeiros >
I could buy ~5 houses in the US for what I paid for this apartment
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apeiros >
banister: heh
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yorickpeterse >
banister: enjoy potentially getting taxed in 3 countries
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apeiros >
banister: I'd love to work for a swiss company in thailand
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banister >
yorickpeterse nah i'll get them to setup a dutch payroll ;) same as my current gig
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apeiros >
swiss salary, thai weather and life style
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yorickpeterse >
apeiros: and the boys
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* yorickpeterse
is a terrible person
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banister >
apeiros yeah, american salaries aren't bad either, i have a friend who works remotely for an SF company and he lives in vietnam
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banister >
he's saved more than 100K in the past few years
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: I don't think my wife would approve. but the massages… oooh hell yes! :)
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banister >
apeiros "massages"
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apeiros >
banister: no. massages. not "massages". the latter are certainly good too, but I'm quite happy with the former already :)
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banister >
apeiros my recent holiday to vietnam if you asked for a massage you'd still get a "massage" anyway, you had to really push to get a proper massage, and then, they didn't really know what they were doing, seems "massage" is what they're trained to do…
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yorickpeterse >
apeiros: well honestly, if somebody were to say they are 1) white 2) living in Thailand 3) working in IT abroad I'd be pretty fucking suspicious
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apeiros >
banister: I have no problem to believe that. when in holiday in thailand, I spend a day finding a good massage parlor
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yorickpeterse >
banister: No shit, there's a pretty big difference between giving somebody a good ol' fashioned and an actual massage
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yorickpeterse >
One involves monotone vertical movement, the other violent punching on the back
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yorickpeterse >
or some tiny Asian standing on top of you from what I've been told
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centrx >
drbrain, Is there any particular reason some of the user agents in Mechanize pretend very old versions?
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darix >
centrx: you can always set a more recent one no?
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darix >
centrx: you can also just set agent.user_agent to a string
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centrx >
Hmm, good to know
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centrx >
Thank you that will be useful
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centrx >
Still, the defaults should not have Gecko/20030516 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 as the version for "Windows Mozilla"
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darix >
centrx: why does it matter?
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apeiros >
browser sniffing
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darix >
apeiros: then you shouldnt claim to be firefox in first place maybe?:)
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apeiros >
darix: eh?
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apeiros >
not sure about the logic of that one :)
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webby_ >
i'm having trouble with Array#pack
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webby_ >
["B0160004A3DEF431"].pack('H*') returns "\xB0\x16\x00\x04\xA3\xDE\xF41"
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webby_ >
it completely tosses out the 3 near the end
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wallerdev >
webby_: what do you mean?
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webby_ >
maybe i'm just understanding pack completely wrong
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webby_ >
i essentially want to convert that 16 length string to hex with \x prefixed
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jhass >
you confuse presentation with value
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jhass >
>> 0x31 == '1'.ord
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eam >
webby_: in other words, ruby isn't creating a string with \x escapes -- it's creating a string of binary and when irb pretty-prints it it happens to use \x to show it to you
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eam >
the "1" isn't escaped because it's a normal old character that can be displayed in a string without escaping
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eam >
1's ascii value is 0x31
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wallerdev >
so all you really want to do is just put x in front of every 2 letters? lol
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webby_ >
i didn't realize that
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apeiros >
19:19 webby_: i essentially want to convert that 16 length string to hex with \x prefixed
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apeiros >
literal \x`
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apeiros >
as in, puts "\\x04" --> \x04
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webby_ >
this was for a binary message, so likely i understood the implementation wrong
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apeiros >
webby_: do you understand that "\\" is a single backslash, "\x00" is a single byte (the null byte) and "\\x00" is 4 bytes (backslash, x, zero, zero)
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webby_ >
i think eam got it right
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webby_ >
apeiros, i didn't know that i do now thanks
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eam >
we're all explaining the same thing, apeiros and jhass are showing you more of the surrounding logic
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Burgestrand >
tbh the output of ["B0160004A3DEF431"].pack('H*') is kind of confusing
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apeiros >
indeed, eam
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webby_ >
i recently upgrade a new codebase from Ruby 1.9.3 to Ruby 2.1.1 and recently got ASCII-8BIT to UTF-8 encoding issues
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apeiros >
though I explored the possibility he really wanted "\\x00"
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(facepalm)
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gnufied >
rb_class2name crashes ruby
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cout >
Object#display, never knew about that
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cout >
couldn't figure out why I couldn't have an OpenStruct member called display
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cout >
seems like it should work though, since new_ostruct_member() gets called
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cout >
I know I can do that
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cout >
I just don't understand why it wants to call the base class #display
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cout >
unless self.respond_to?(name)
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Object#display is an abomination
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yorickpeterse >
Fucking Java
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yorickpeterse >
ugh, Jruby, brrrrr
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: nobody said you should have intercourse with it…
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yorickpeterse >
I'd rather shove a lego up my bum
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yorickpeterse >
FINALLY
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yorickpeterse >
it compiles
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yorickpeterse >
Jesus christ that required a lot of boilerplate and digging through piles of JRuby/Nokogiri code to figure out how the fuck to do this
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* apeiros
read "it complies"
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yorickpeterse >
because of course the last stuff I can find on JRuby exts is from 2010 and not even complete
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yorickpeterse >
"THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE AN EXTENSION" - doesn't mention half of it
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. how just a require() to the jar file apparently
*isn't* enough
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yo, got this odd problem. I am accessing frame information of ruby during GC and currently my program crashes ruby (no surprises there)
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gnufied >
but the problem is, ruby does not print complete backtrace on console, but it writes it to a .plist file in ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports
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I am working with debug symbols enabled version of Ruby (and my extension has that enabled too)
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I just find it hard to work with a plist file
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well, I guess I can move this to Linux.
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gnufied: you can always use plutil
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there is another plain text file
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