apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<sirfilip> morning
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<ljarvis> moin
<yorickpeterse> did you nerds all check out the sick control panel of Dragon v2?
<yorickpeterse> I'm still cleaning up my pants
<yorickpeterse> I creamed all over them
<yorickpeterse> http://i.imgur.com/KHM0Phn.png JUST LOOK AT IT
<yorickpeterse> I really picked the wrong job
<DefV> touch screens are the worst while moving
<DefV> try hitting a button on a screen while shaking at a few G
<yorickpeterse> watch the video
<yorickpeterse> Critical systems can be controlled using buttons
<yorickpeterse> The dragon can be flown remotely as well
<yorickpeterse> Plus I'm pretty sure they took care of the vibrations
<yorickpeterse> It's not like Elon went "hurrdurrr char here, ipad screen there...aww yiss it's a spacecraft"
<yorickpeterse> * chair
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<yorickpeterse> I also really appreciate the goofyness of the presentation
<yorickpeterse> "So uh here we have Dragon V2, it's uh pretty baller, lemme just uh get inside and show you the sick control panel"
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<armand-groenewal> does anyone know of ruby developers in SA?
<armand-groenewal> South Africa
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<sirfilip_> morning
<armand-groenewal> Moring
<armand-groenewal> DO you know of Ruby Developers in South-Africa
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<[spoiler]> wait, didn't someone here say nokogiri means "devil's gate" or something?
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<[spoiler]> I'm reading up a bit on japanese and のこぎり is apparently a tool (a saw). LOL. I WAS LIED TO!
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<[spoiler]> the nokogiri page uses 鋸, though. That's just the hanji though
* [spoiler] is confused now.
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* [spoiler] lied; he's always confused.
<DefV> you're like the hulk
<[spoiler]> DefV, LOL
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<yorickpeterse> [spoiler]: no
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<yorickpeterse> Nokogiri is a type of Japanese saw
<yorickpeterse> oh derp
<yorickpeterse> oh wait, right link after all
<[spoiler]> LOL
<[spoiler]> *takes a look*
<[spoiler]> Ah interesting
<[spoiler]> damn, that's one villain-looking saw
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<rindolf> Hello Rubyists.
<oddmunds> hey, rindolf
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<rindolf> oddmunds: meow.
<rindolf> oddmunds: what's up?
<oddmunds> idk
<oddmunds> i
<oddmunds> 'm at work working
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<ggeorgiev> hi all i am a ruby nubi
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<ggeorgiev> how best way ask wuestions
<ggeorgiev> ?
<jhass> just do it
<ggeorgiev> :)
<ggeorgiev> kool
<ggeorgiev> if (verify_login_id = Login.where(params[:email_address], "active" =>1).select('id')# => [#<Login id: 767>] verify_admin_id = Admin.where("login_id" => verify_login_id.first.id).exists? #=> true) puts "trueee" else raise(ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound.new("Authorization is required to access this endpoint!")) end
<ggeorgiev> is syntax true for multiline if statement
<ggeorgiev> ?
<ggeorgiev> condition
<jhass> use gist.github.com to paste code
<ggeorgiev> ok
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<ggeorgiev> question is if syntax is good ?
<jhass> no you open a paren and don't close it
<jhass> also you should probably make that a scope or class method on Login
<jhass> ah you want to chain the two conditions
<jhass> so you need a &&
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<ggeorgiev> do i need () for the condition still
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<jhass> no
<ggeorgiev> ok
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<jhass> ggeorgiev: also consider using an authentication framework like Devise instead of rolling your own
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<ggeorgiev> thanks jhass
<ggeorgiev> gist updated with new question
<ggeorgiev> with && i need 2 cond to be boolean
<ggeorgiev> but i want one of then to evaluate to ActiveRecord::Relation object
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<ggeorgiev> and on next one use that object in variable
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<jhass> >> foo = "obj" && foo.start_with? 'o'
<eval-in> jhass => /tmp/execpad-f0774f2ba616/source-f0774f2ba616:2: syntax error, unexpected tSTRING_BEG, expecting keyword_end ... (https://eval.in/157015)
<jhass> >>( foo = "obj") && foo.start_with? 'o'
<eval-in> jhass => /tmp/execpad-37552d1f01ea/source-37552d1f01ea:2: syntax error, unexpected tSTRING_BEG, expecting keyword_end ... (https://eval.in/157016)
<jhass> hm
<jhass> >>( foo = "obj") && foo.start_with?('o')
<eval-in> jhass => true (https://eval.in/157017)
<jhass> this way
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<apeiros> parens for start_with? is all it needs
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<yorickpeterse> maloik: ping
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<yorickpeterse> Ah heh, got my answer
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<miqui> question: can you have more than one namespace in a rakefile?
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<apeiros> yes, of course
<miqui> am testing, but when i do rake -T i do not see the other namespace....
<apeiros> probably because you have nothing in it with a desc
<miqui> apeiros: ok... doing a quick test...
<miqui> thanks
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<miqui> apeiros: ...thanks yup...that was it...added a desc...
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<yorickpeterse> Fuck, I hate that Queue#pop raises a deadlock error if the queue is empty
<yorickpeterse> who the fuck came up with that
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<jhass> >> Thread.new { Queue.new.pop }
<eval-in> jhass => (https://eval.in/157025)
<jhass> (never terminates but yeah)
<yorickpeterse> >> Queue.new.pop
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => No live threads left. Deadlock? (fatal) ... (https://eval.in/157026)
<jhass> now think about it
<jhass> Queue#pop blocks until there's an item in the queue
<yorickpeterse> I'm well aware of what happens, it's just stupid
<yorickpeterse> it's not mentioned anywhere either
<jhass> you have only one thread, the main thread, and it blocks
<jhass> ruby sees there are no threads alive and raises that error
<jhass> it's not Queue#pop doing that, Queue#pop just blocks the threads
<jhass> -s
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<jhass> so don't use a Queue if you don't want to block
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<pvbraga> Just wondering, my company builder has a open job for RoR programmer (full Stack or part time). We are situated in Sao Paulo - Brazil. No problems to work with people from another country remotely. See the job description here: http://www.hirefive.com/jobdetails/1 You can also recommend someone! Thx
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<crankharder> what happened to 2.1.1-p76 - was that a real thing and revoked?
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<darix> crankharder: 2.1.2 is out
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<havenwood> crankharder: 2.1.1 is still a real thing just it has been supplanted by 2.1.2 as latest stable
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<darix> havenwood: i think he was more asking about that patch level release
<darix> which is not there (anymore) on ruby-lang.org
<havenwood> just the patch corresponding to 2.1.1
<havenwood> crankharder: they moved to semantic versioning, so patch levels are there but no longer part of the ruby name
<havenwood> crankharder: 2.1.1 *is* 2.1.1-p76
<havenwood> darix: aha
<darix> ok
<darix> havenwood: thank you for the explaination
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<crankharder> sweet, ty
<crankharder> yay for semver
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<roelof> Is Equelent Ruby a good book to learn ruby ?
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<roelof> is this (Eloquent Ruby) a good book for a beginner to learn ruby ?
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<havenwood> roelof: i've heard good things but not read it
<roelof> havenwood: thanks
<roelof> havenwood: or do you have "better" suggestions ?
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<havenwood> roelof: i can't compare having not read Eloquent, but The Ruby Programming Language (sparrows on the cover) is quite good
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<roelof> havenwood: thanks, I will also look at that one.
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<crankharder> what happened to 2.1.1-p76 - was that a real thing and revoked?
<crankharder> what happened to 2.1.1-p76 - was that a real thing and revoked?
<crankharder> what happened to 2.1.1-p76 - was that a real thing and revoked?
<crankharder> what happened to 2.1.1-p76 - was that a real thing and revoked?
<jhass> crankharder: time to fix your client...
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<apeiros> crankharder: it is still a real thing and no it was not revoked.
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<jhass> he asked that a couple of hours ago already and was answered, that looks more like a client problem
<apeiros> I see
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<ironcamel> what is wrong with: p { :foo => 'bar' }
<ironcamel> i am getting: -:2: syntax error, unexpected tASSOC, expecting '}'
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<ari-_-e> ironcamel: allowing parentheses to be omitted makes the syntax very fragile and unintuitive
<ironcamel> ari-_-e: is that a new change?
<ironcamel> i remember being able to do that before
<ari-_-e> ironcamel: in this case, my guess is that it can't disambiguate between passing a Hash and passing a block
<ari-_-e> ironcamel: you can do this by omitting the { and }
<ari-_-e> or, you can add parentheses
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<ironcamel> so :foo => 'bar' withouth braces is interpreted as a hash?
<ari-_-e> if it's the last argument of a function call, yes
<ironcamel> ah, cool
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<toretore> p(foo: 'bar') is what i'd do
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<TTilus> or just plain p foo: 'bar'
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<wallerdev> or just simply p Hash[:foo, 'bar']
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<TTilus> lol
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<zenspider> ari-_-e: very fragile and unintuitive? poppycock
<ari-_-e> nope
<zenspider> amazing defense. you have me convinced.
<whitequark> says someone who allegedly wrote a ruby parser
<zenspider> I'll go change all my gems because it's all fragile and unintuitive
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<zenspider> whitequark: allegedly? really?
<ari-_-e> optional parentheses are perl disease
<whitequark> zenspider: unintuitive, I don't know; but fragile it surely is. just count the number of special cases required to make it work
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<whitequark> parse.y is *still* being fixed for bugs introduced a decade ago
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<zenspider> whitequark: I mostly count the number of special cases because they used an LR definition and didn't factor it at all (tho that part is getting a tad better)
<whitequark> better, seriously? how does introducing *yet another* state to the lexer makes it better?
<whitequark> I disagree about "it's just LR" argument
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<zenspider> but you said I ALLEGEDLY write a parser. I take offense
<whitequark> it's simply not possible to write a working highlighter for ruby for a text editor, for example
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<zenspider> tho maybe you alleged that it is a ruby parser. not that I wrote it.
<whitequark> (no, including a parser in a text editor is unfeasible for performance reasons; tokenizing is slow enough)
* whitequark sighs
<whitequark> what I really meant was "this is a very odd remark for someone who spent countless nights fixing the damn parser."
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<zenspider> my highlighter works ok. granted... it uses ruby :)
<whitequark> well, take a look at, say, sublime
<zenspider> and honestly, matz's still works ok. just futzs the indentation periodically
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<whitequark> even though sublime recognizes *more* than a typical highlighting engine does (it allows you to specify some CFGs in the rules), it still breaks
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<ari-_-e> I'm still waiting for a formal specification of ruby's syntax
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<zenspider> I need more coding music. :/
<whitequark> ari-_-e: there's one in the ruby iso standard
<zenspider> (for 1.8)
<ari-_-e> ^
<whitequark> although I'm frankly not sure if it's complete. seems like it omits several very important parts, to me
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<whitequark> I don't think it's possible to implement a parser that recognizes exactly same set of inputs as ruby's, based on just that spec
<zenspider> I only glossed over it. I don't think it was complete. but they never published a final version, just a draft, right?
<whitequark> they did, of course
<whitequark> I have the full version bought
<zenspider> hrm. I thought it never went through full ratification
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<whitequark> can't find where I put the pdf...
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<whitequark> aha, found it
<whitequark> watermarked, bleargh
<whitequark> INTERNATIONAL
<whitequark> STANDARD
<whitequark> First edition
<whitequark> ISO/IEC
<whitequark> 30170
<whitequark> 2012-04-15
<whitequark> seems ratified to me.
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