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unsymbol >
moin, moin
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morning children
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"why are my queues not being processed"
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> 2 conflicting CloudWatch metrics doing the opposite of what they should do
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one scaling things up, the other one scaling things down
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yay Thursday
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it's fun that you say Thursday like the week consists of a day in which you're not ranting
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Hey I'm pretty quiet during the weekend
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hm TIL about Array#find
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"I wonder if there's something like [...].select { ... }.first an..oh there is"
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<3 Ruby
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apropos of nothing, Mathematica has neat stuff for arrays; and seemingly strange order of operations to do it :]
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yorickpeterse: i much prefer take(1) to .first
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rolfb >
especially since both first and find will yield nil if not found
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rolfb: that's exactly what I want in this case
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rolfb >
you want it to yield nil?
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yorickpeterse >
yes
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jas02 >
Hi, how can I write regexp covering range of numbers 1 .. 180 but not more (181…)?
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canton7 >
why do people insist on using regex for this sort of stuff
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yorickpeterse >
jas02: You use Range instead
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yorickpeterse >
>> (1..180).cover?(181)
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yorickpeterse >
>> (1..180).cover?(178)
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canton7 >
just match a number, then validate the range of that number separately
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canton7 >
means you can give a much better error message, too
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bougyman >
one thing I found about that, you have to use ints.
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bougyman >
which is weird, because ("1" .. "100").to_a includes "99" but ("1" .. "100").cover?("99") is false.
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canton7 >
why are you using strings?
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canton7 >
>> (1..180).cover?(100.0)
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canton7 >
ah you mean ints as opposed to strings, not as opposed to floats
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bougyman >
i'm not using strings. strings don't work. as I said, they have to be ints.
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canton7 >
yeah, string <-> string comparisons aren't numerical. they have different rules
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canton7 >
>> "2" > "10"
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apeiros >
jas02: while you should follow canton7/yorickpeterse's advice - if you insist on using a regex, the way is to match for: 1 digit OR 2 digits OR leading "1" followed by ("0"-"7" followed by one digit) OR ("80")
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apeiros >
jas02: try to translate that to regex and you see why the others advice against it ;-)
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canton7 >
yeah, look for the sample regex to match ip addresses - they do the same
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bougyman >
yeah but you'd figure if ("1" .. "10").to_a.include? "2" is true that ("1" .. "10").cover? "2" would be
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canton7 >
yeah, #succ tries to be smart, and doesn't follow the same comparisons as <=>
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canton7 >
it would be a bit weird of #succ went "1", "10", "1000", "10000", etc, instead of "1", "2", "3", etc
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canton7 >
but then "2"
*is* > "10" when ordering strings. doing it differently would go against how your file browser, and numerous other things, do it
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yorickpeterse >
if you want to do it webscale you can do this:
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apeiros >
canton7: finder actually uses natural sort
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bougyman >
many things do now.
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canton7 >
Range#cover? is just doing comparisons on the lower and upper bounds: it isn't going to call #succ forever (for infinity maybe?) just to see whether your value appears anywhere
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canton7 >
apeiros, ooh, not bad
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yorickpeterse >
gimme a minute...
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canton7 >
webscale takes time. don't worry
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yorickpeterse >
That's 1) fast 2) not too hard to maintain
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* yorickpeterse
runs really fast
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apeiros >
you cheated, didn't you?
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yorickpeterse >
I used Ruby for that
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apeiros >
you used code to generate that code…
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yorickpeterse >
so yes
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canton7 >
please tell me you generated that
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canton7 >
he wanted a regex though!
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canton7 >
(1|2|3|4....
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bougyman >
/\d\d?|1[0-7]\d|180/
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apeiros >
(?:\d\d?|1(?:[0-7]\d|80))
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canton7 >
bougyman, that matches 190
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apeiros >
requires anchoring
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canton7 >
wait, you didn't anchor it.. src
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bougyman >
how?well yeah, I assume anchors.
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canton7 >
yeah, was being thick
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bougyman >
/^(\d\d?|1[0-7]\d|180)$/
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* apeiros
kicks ^ and $ away and puts in \A and \z
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ljarvis >
\a \Z zealot
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canton7 >
it matches things like '01', if you care
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ljarvis >
psh wrong way round
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apeiros >
also (?:) instead of ()
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bougyman >
it also doesn't match 080
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ljarvis >
those captures aint hurting anyone
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apeiros >
I'm \A \zealot?
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bougyman >
nor is ^ and $ in most use-cases.
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bougyman >
and MAYBE HE WANTS TO CAPTURE.
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ljarvis >
MAYBE WE WANTS TO SUPPORT NEWLINES
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apeiros >
YOU BE BAD PEOPLE!!!!
*runs away*
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apeiros >
(I'm actually really afk, so: bye :-))
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ljarvis >
IoError(ref err) => Some(&*err as &error::Error),
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ljarvis >
return Err(::std::error::FromError::from_error(err))
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ljarvis >
go home rust you are drunk
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carton7: it's used inside Puppet code: <% case @hostname when /REGEXP/ -%> something… I am not sure that I can use range
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jas02 >
carton7: I meant ERB template inside Puppet
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canton7 >
were you trying to ping me?
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apeiros >
hi carton7
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apeiros >
jas02: use if/elsif
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apeiros >
jas02: or rather: move that business code out of the view. it's quite out of place in the template.
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apeiros >
s/view/template/
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ljarvis >
welcome to puppet, where everything is out of place and makes no sense
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darix >
the puppet erb templates are pure ERB
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darix >
so your comment is kind of useless
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apeiros >
darix: referring to my comment?
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darix >
apeiros: ljarvis
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darix >
and after a short break i need to find out how to get the testsuite coverage for the MRI testsuite
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yorickpeterse >
canton7: regex is not webscale
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ljarvis >
darix: I didn't say they weren't :)
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darix >
ljarvis: what annoys me more about puppet development lately ... puppetmaster rewrite in clojure. clojure uses maven for building. real pita to package.
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ljarvis >
didn't know that
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ljarvis >
not massively surprised
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apeiros >
and I thought people rewrite sysadmin stuff in go, expressly for the purpose of easier distribution
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darix >
and that is just maven itself.
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yorickpeterse >
Does Puppet actually work these days when not using Webrick?
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darix >
yorickpeterse: passenger
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apeiros >
darix: funny. in that puppet-lab link, the explanations for using clojure read a lot like "we programmed badly in the previous language and hope the new language will prevent us from writing badly"
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yorickpeterse >
apeiros: but Clojure will bring them webscale performance
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yorickpeterse >
and it's JVM based so it runs everywhere
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whitequark >
darix: holy shit
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whitequark >
that's insane
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darix >
apeiros: but there seems to be a bit of a trend to functional languages for servers
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darix >
whitequark: puppetlabs or maven?
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apeiros >
darix: note that I'm not making any judgment on clojure's quality. it may well be an excellent language.
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whitequark >
darix: mvn
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darix >
whitequark: there is a good reason why i avoid packaging java stuff ;)
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ljarvis >
you so maven
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ljarvis >
that looks like my model relationship when i run dot on them
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Next I tried this : gem install bundler --http-proxy 10.3.100.207:8080
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yorickpeterse >
proxima_: and your proxy is running?
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proxima_ >
But it again gave error: ERROR: While executing gem ... (OptionParser::InvalidArgument) invalid argument: --http-proxy 10.3.100.207:8080
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proxima_ >
Yes, I use proxy and it is running
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Does it work without using a proxy?
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proxima_ >
Sorry, I can access internet only via proxy. So can't check it without proxy
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proxima_ >
yorickpeterse: I need to install (gem 'middleman', '3.2.0' gem 'middleman-livereload', '3.1.0' gem 'middleman-syntax', '1.2.1' gem 'middleman-blog', '3.5.1' gem "rdiscount", '2.1.7') on my Ubuntu 14.04
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proxima_ >
and also (gem install bundler bundle install)
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yorickpeterse >
well it looks like either your proxy doesn't work or you're not using the right arguments
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yorickpeterse >
try flipping the option before the argument, not sure if that would help
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jhass >
mmh, doesn't option parser only take `-f bar` and `--foo=bar` but not ´--foo bar` ?
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proxima_ >
ok. should it be like this?? "--http-proxy 10.3.100.207:8080 gem install bundler "
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yorickpeterse >
... no
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yorickpeterse >
I meant this:
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yorickpeterse >
gem install --http-proxy 10.3.100.207:8080 bundler
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yorickpeterse >
and try this too:
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yorickpeterse >
gem install --http-proxy=10.3.100.207:8080 bundler
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jhass >
actually I think hat option just doesn't exist
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proxima_ >
neither worked
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proxima_ >
it worked. Next what should I do?
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jhass >
gem install bundler?
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proxima_ >
again failed
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jhass >
and with lowercase? export http_proxy=...
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proxima_ >
Not passed
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jhass >
do you hide something from us?
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jhass >
like doing a sudo?
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proxima_ >
No why shall I? I did sudo only
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darix >
proxima_: well
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darix >
do you do export ...
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jhass >
"I did sudo only" what does that mean?
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darix >
and then sudo gem install?
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darix >
sudo might wipe your envvars for security reasons
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yorickpeterse >
jhass: exists for me
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yorickpeterse >
might need to gem update
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proxima_ >
Yes I did export. And then sudo gem install bundler
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lupine >
there's always sudo -E
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bougyman >
or you can add HTTP_PROXY/http_proxy to Defaults env_keep
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lupine >
although installing gems as root with gem is generally a mistake
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bougyman >
I always make sure it's there.
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lupine >
(not always, but generally)
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lupine: amen
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darix >
but well not everyone sees the value of distro package manager for that.
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bougyman >
most of my boxes don't even have system ruby anymore.
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proxima_ >
thanks done. :)
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* jhass
only has "system rubies"
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darix >
bougyman: i have only system rubies. ;)
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darix >
but those include rbx and soon jruby
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bougyman >
the only thing similar to a system ruby would be the /opt/chef/embedded that's on all our stuff.
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bougyman >
other than that it's all rbenv/rvm
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lupine >
that's fine, but in that case you should install the gems somewhere outside of the main hierarchy
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lupine >
they should be twinned with your application or your ruby
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bougyman >
there is no main heirarchy, right.
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bougyman >
every app has its own gemset.
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elux >
just wondering if anyone has a suggestion on how to take a utf8 string with some strangely encoded characters that look like a hyphen or quote, but really are something crazy, and replace them with the browser-friendly version?
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elux >
doing a str.encode('UTF-8', :replace => '') makes the string browser friendly again, but it removes those characters
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darix >
elux: URI.encode ?
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darix >
or html encode it
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toretore >
elux: first, define browser friendly
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elux >
browser friendly is pretty self explainatory
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elux >
but i got it figured out
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elux >
html.unpack("U*").collect {|s| (s > 127 ? "&##{s};" : s.chr('utf-8')) }.join("")
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elux >
is the secret code
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toretore >
browser friendly is far from self explanatory
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whitequark >
yeah, the URI spec is rather confusing.
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ericwood >
whitequark: worth noting ActiveRecord can encourage nil checks
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ericwood >
which I'm not fond of :|
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apeiros >
Baluse: people joining and dropping a link without comment are suspicious
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jhass >
I'd ban for this one
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toretore >
also, that's not very ruby related
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apeiros >
yeah, me too
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<
ljarvis >
damn I had my finger on the trigger
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<
toretore >
at least you've got fingers
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<
toretore >
(ha-ha... ha..)
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apeiros >
suspicion proved to be spot on
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toretore >
at least now you get the joke
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apeiros >
I got it before. I checked the link before banning.
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toretore >
seems reasonable
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ljarvis >
i really need to push out a new mechanize version
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apeiros >
you maintain mechanize?
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yorickpeterse >
No he hacked it
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ljarvis >
apeiros: aye
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ljarvis >
but also hacked it
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apeiros >
ljarvis: neat. didn't know.
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ljarvis >
I try to anyway, which means lacking any time to do so recently
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ljarvis >
to work on anything, in fact :(
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apeiros >
yeah, I know that
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apeiros >
reminds me…
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<
ljarvis >
slop needs a version 4, and relapse needs announcing and actually releasing
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* apeiros
goes back to writing funny ship AI's to combat each other :D
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imperator >
any net-ping users here who would like to take over the project?
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darix >
ljarvis: what is relapse?
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ljarvis >
sleep time, bai
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