#ruby-lang on 2014-11-19 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-11-13 14:57 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com

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04:52 <womble> Awwww... the old-school layout on rubygems.org is gone. End of an era. Meanwhile, the flash thing is still on there...

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09:32 <yorickpeterse> morning

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09:42 <ljarvis> moin

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15:02 <whitequark> yorickpeterse: lol rbx still fails on travis https://travis-ci.org/whitequark/parser/jobs/41487267

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15:07 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: that's not a Rubinius problem

15:07 <yorickpeterse> It's some shit with travis' cache

15:07 <yorickpeterse> You can work around that by using...

15:07 <whitequark> yorickpeterse: it persists for half a year.

15:07 <yorickpeterse> https://github.com/YorickPeterse/oga/commit/02e00019ff4b22d664a1c1b2ae149b7c81d420f8

15:07 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: yes, and it's not an Rbx issue

15:07 <whitequark> I don't care really

15:08 <yorickpeterse> No I figured as much based on your "lol rbx still fails" message

15:08 <whitequark> it only happens on rbx -> it's your responsibility to fix

15:08 <yorickpeterse> I'm sorry?

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15:08 <yorickpeterse> I've been running parallel installs on Rbx on our Jenkins for almost a year, I've not had a single Gem corruption error

15:08 <whitequark> at least if you want projects to use rbx.

15:08 <yorickpeterse> but of course it's Rbx' fault and I have to fix it

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15:09 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: you'd do well to actually google things https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/2821

15:10 <yorickpeterse> Previous install problems were a RubyGems race condition, which has since been fixed (and is available in 2.4.2 I believe)

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15:11 <yorickpeterse> So yes, we've been trying to fix it but it doesn't really work if there's not much we can do

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15:13 <yorickpeterse> As an aside, this attitude of "it's broken, it's your responsibility to fix it

15:13 <yorickpeterse> * really fucking pisses me off

15:16 <whitequark> well, if that makes you write good code, good

15:16 <yorickpeterse> That response makes no sense

15:17 <whitequark> it actually does. the more I'm pissed off, the more I'm motivated to fix things properly

15:18 <whitequark> cf. the cmake rampage

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15:19 <yorickpeterse> Somebody having a jackass attitude just makes me want to punch them, not write good code

15:19 <yorickpeterse> Broken software is a different story

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15:41 <brixen> whitequark: you're right, rbx will eventually have to rewrite rubygems and bundler

15:41 <brixen> whitequark: we'll let you know when that's done

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15:48 <whitequark> brixen: seriously?

15:48 <brixen> yes, we'll let you know

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15:49 <whitequark> ok, good luck

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15:50 <brixen> thanks

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16:15 <ljarvis>

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16:19 <yorickpeterse>

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16:47 <cleopatra> hello ruby people

16:47 <centrx> hello egypt person

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16:50 <yorickpeterse> centrx: what if they're not Egyptian?

16:50 <yorickpeterse> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

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17:04 <ljarvis> obviously they are

17:04 <ljarvis> man, some people are gonna hate me for slop 4

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17:10 <|jemc|> anyone know if one of the YAML parsers lets you turn OFF all or some of the boolean-from-string interpretations? http://yaml.org/type/bool.html

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17:12 <|jemc|> hm.. looks like the YAML 1.2 spec gets rid of everything but "true" and "false", which is exactly what I want

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17:14 <|jemc|> the list on http://www.yaml.org/ doesn't show any ruby implementations of the 1.2 spec

17:14 <|jemc|> more googling...

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17:16 <yorickpeterse> ljarvis: what's different in Slop 4?

17:16 <yorickpeterse> inb4 "everything"

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17:25 <cleopatra> centrx, :)

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17:26 <egypt> centrx: what now? =)

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17:31 <centrx> Build pyramids

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17:35 <[H]unt3r> 0/ What's happen ruby-lang?

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17:46 <centrx> We are building monuments

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17:46 <ljarvis> yorickpeterse: it's a lot more opinionated, but this sums up the style in general: https://gist.github.com/leejarvis/cdc33f7c0bb8f33d61a1

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17:47 <centrx> ljarvis, Replacement for OptionParser without the strictures of Thor?

17:47 <ljarvis> centrx: yeah, https://github.com/leejarvis/slop it's existed for years. I'm just rewriting it

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17:48 <centrx> aha there's been a release hiatus

17:49 <ljarvis> :(

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17:51 <centrx> ljarvis, Are you same person as "injekt" as the repo is listed on Ruby Toolbox?

17:51 <ljarvis> centrx: yeah

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17:54 <centrx> ljarvis, it looks like the best one, what's the catch?

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17:55 <ljarvis> centrx: why should there be a catch?

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17:56 <centrx> ljarvis, Is it better than all these other ones in every area?

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17:58 <ljarvis> centrx: that's not really for me to say, but it's best used for "simple" parsing, the commands support isn't great. That sort of stuff is being redone in 4 though so there's that

17:59 <ljarvis> pry uses slop under the hood, not sure if it uses commands

17:59 <centrx> The subcommands like git has you mean?

17:59 <ljarvis> correct

17:59 <centrx> Okay great

17:59 <centrx> # TODO Switch to Slop

18:00 <darix> centrx: yes he is inkjet

18:00 <ljarvis> the one and only

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18:05 <darix> the last 2 scripts i wrote are too low level in the building chain for using slop.

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18:39 <ljarvis> https://github.com/leejarvis/slop/tree/4.0 IWP

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18:54 <yorickpeterse> ljarvis: hm, this doesn't look too bad

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18:57 <ljarvis> yorickpeterse: this stuff is quite useful when building "bigger" things: https://github.com/leejarvis/slop/tree/4.0#custom-option-types

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18:58 <yorickpeterse> yeah that looks pretty cool

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19:51 <ruby-lang103> How to get object from array with minimum/maximum property named value?

19:52 <centrx> WHat?

19:52 <centrx> What's the input and output

19:52 <apeiros> ruby-lang103: Enumerable#min_by /#max_by

19:52 <apeiros> not sure if there's also a minmax_by

19:53 <apeiros> ok, in 2.1, there's also minmax_by

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19:54 <havenwood> in 1.9.3 too

19:54 <ruby-lang103> @apeiros Thank you, working :)

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19:55 <apeiros> great. I somehow was under the impression that minmax_by was added later than minmax

19:55 <apeiros> sob, of course, IE8 does not support media queries…

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21:32 <ericwood> lol we just deprecated IE 8

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21:32 <ericwood> so happy rn :')

21:32 <ericwood> kikati is a spam bot, can we get a ban?

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21:38 <yorickpeterse> ericwood: privmsg spam?

21:40 <ericwood> yorickpeterse: yep

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21:44 kikati was kicked from #ruby-lang by ljarvis [take your spam elsewhere]

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23:54 <g0bl1n> hi, to implement a simple progress bar in the browser (jQuery) for a long process in the server (not the usual download), any hint ? Ping a controller in the server with an ajax request to know the progress value ?

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23:59 <jhass> g0bl1n: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ help