apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<nofxx> zenspider, same here, mind sharing those lisp lines? (grey out)
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<zenspider> in customize: '(whitespace-global-modes (quote (ruby-mode emacs-lisp-mode scheme-mode enh-ruby-mode c-mode racket-mode sml-mode)))
<zenspider> and '(whitespace-style (quote (face tabs trailing lines-tail space-before-tab empty)))
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> Today's assignment: update and release 14 Gems
<yorickpeterse> by hand :<
<hannes_> write a gem to update your gems?
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<whitequark> but then you need to update it
<hannes_> :D
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<zenspider> yorickpeterse: no sweat. I do it all the time. ;)
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<chris2> heh
<zenspider> p4 cl $newver today | pbcopy; emacs History.txt lib/whatever.rb; p4 submit -m "updated for release" ...; rake release $newver
<zenspider> that's my entire release process
<chris2> you must be the last user of p4 :P
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<zenspider> hrm... if I had a `prepend` command, I could shorten it further.
<yorickpeterse> zenspider: well, in this case I also have to do a bunch of manual code updates
<yorickpeterse> which aren't always identical for all these Gems
<zenspider> yes. me. google. microsoft. amazon. but really just me.
<chris2> zenspider: google not anymore i learned recently
<zenspider> not true
<zenspider> they still use it ... as of last week at least
<chris2> well, a googler told me...
<chris2> they use something that looks like it
<zenspider> actually came across 3 different perforce employees at the last 2 confs I went to
<zenspider> well... aja is going to google in a week, and she was told they use perforce. *shrug*
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<zenspider> and actually ... just had it confirmed by a perforce employee over lunch
<chris2> well, interesting
<yorickpeterse> but if you're not using Git then you're not kewl
<zenspider> apparently google is perforce's largest client. tho I'd suspect amazon is still the most abusive... even tho they migrated to a new repro at least twice now. they do horrible things to branches
<whitequark> I'd prefer even svn to p4
<chris2> i thought amazon was so decentralized internally
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<whitequark> (actually, svn with git-svn is quite not horrible)
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<yorickpeterse> bossman went to get bread almost 45 minutes ago
<yorickpeterse> still hasn't returned
<yorickpeterse> I fear for the worst
<yorickpeterse> especially since the bakery is 10 minutes away
<yorickpeterse> Perhaps a lawyer from upstairs ate him
<chris2> a 15min queue?
<chris2> *25
<whitequark> killjoy
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<yorickpeterse> oh hey he's back
<yorickpeterse> Ah, he went to do a full groceries run
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<yorickpeterse> and he still has both legs, so no lawyers attacked him
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<hannes_> reminds me of the time I paid 18 euro for 2 loaves of bread
<hannes_> loafs? loaves? whatever
<hannes_> tired, sleep-drunk and possibly actual-drunk and hungover
<hannes_> stood there, baffled, the bread already sliced and bagged in front of me
<hannes_> I didn't know what else to do but pay :(
<hannes_> still get shit for it when it comes up
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<chris2> golden bread?
<hannes_> it wasn't even that nice really
<apeiros_> 10kg loaves?
<chris2> i dont think i saw a loaf for more than.. 5€ perhaps?
<hannes_> nope.. bit bigger than usual but not massive by any means
<chris2> which is fucking expensive already
<hannes_> yea
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<hannes_> it doesn't make sense
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<hannes_> apparently it's a brand of infamously expensive bakeries
<hannes_> I'd never heard of it
<hannes_> who the fuck buys 8 euro bread
<apeiros_> hm, special breads easily cost ~8€/kg here
<chris2> in .ch?
<apeiros_> yeah
<apeiros_> silly expensive
<chris2> yeah :P
<chris2> but cheese is cheaper i think
<chris2> and meat much more expensive
<apeiros_> no idea. I think I pay ~14€/kg on average for cheese
<hannes_> it was in Belgium's most "expensive" coastal town, where all the "classy" folks go to show off their porsches and fur coats
<hannes_> :D
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* chris2 cant remember when he last bought cheese by kg :P
<hannes_> 14? jesus
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<maloik> if I had to guess I'd say I usually pay 8-10ish as well
<apeiros_> oh, I don't buy it by the kg. I assumed you wouldn't want to normalize yourself :-p
<chris2> or even bought cheese at all :P
<chris2> i just eat it :P
<maloik> "it just shows up"
<maloik> significant other does the shopping? :D
<apeiros_> heh, I buy at least twice a week. and eat almost daily.
<apeiros_> lol maloik
<chris2> maloik: yeah :P
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<apeiros_> maloik: or flat share. "what should I say? magical fridge. it's always full!"
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<maloik> :D
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<apeiros_> good thing I never had a flat-share mate of that kind.
<maloik> I did 3 years of that, was fun at first with other roommates involved as well
<maloik> last year and a half with the new roommates was terrible
<maloik> one just plain lazy, the other never home and not interested in shopping or cooking at all
<maloik> cant wait to find a house to buy
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<yorickpeterse> I shared dorms with a bunch of frat idiots back in 2009
<yorickpeterse> now I share an apartment with a cat
<yorickpeterse> not sure what's worse
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<centrx> is the cat wasted
<yorickpeterse> No, but he does make a mess out of things
<yorickpeterse> and from time to time he barfs over the couch
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<yorickpeterse> he also doesn't clean his poop box
<yorickpeterse> and he throws food out of his bowl
<yorickpeterse> also doesn't pay rent
<yorickpeterse> at least he doesn't hit on female friends
<centrx> he sounds drunk
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<yorickpeterse> it's a cat
<yorickpeterse> that's what cats do
<yorickpeterse> "sup bro how was work? Oh I took a barf on the couch again"
<yorickpeterse> that or he's sleeping under my blankets and just jumps out like "OH WHAT? NO I WASN'T SLEEPING IN YOUR BED"
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<surrounder> awwwkitteh!
<yorickpeterse> yes my cat has a website
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<surrounder> and rightfully so
<yorickpeterse> http://cat.yorickpeterse.com/catom_feed.atom subscribe here
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<whitequark> lol catom_feed
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<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/YorickPeterse/Catom-Feed it's even open source
<yorickpeterse> there's an IRC bot hooked up to it, along with some other cat picture feeds
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<svajone> Anyone can help me with matching an array of coordinates?
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<maloik> svajone: I think you'll need to be more specific than that, that question made no sense to me :-)
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<svajone> Sorry. I am trying to match a set of coordinates using Regex. Thing is, the coordinates is generated and returned as an array. [lat, long]. Just trying to make a test to see if the output is a coordinate.
<maloik> also, look at the geokit gem, chances are it'll do what you need ;)
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<maloik> oh
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<svajone> More like something like this coordinates = [40.61, 100.23]
<maloik> I suggest you write a bunch of testcases, you'll probably want this test anyway... it'll be easier for us to make those tests pass then
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<svajone> Yeah. Figured much. Thanks!
<maloik> svajone: also: www.rubular.com
<maloik> fantastic resource, I still refer to that very often when writing regexes
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<quatron> i prefer this => http://regex101.com/
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<yorickpeterse> yay I got 3 gems done
<yorickpeterse> 11 more to go
<yorickpeterse> Then I have to move all 20-or-so over from Drone.io to Travis
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<nofxx> Had 4 hrs of python today. How can anyone compare that to Ruby (ranting strictily about human/least-surprise/readbility) ... it;s a joke
<nofxx> not to mention OO... gsub a string: os.sub('regex', '', variable) .... array size? len(array)
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<nofxx> OO taken directly from C99!
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<g0bl1n> can one include a Module inside a method (from a class) ? This is, we have several Modules and based on the a class initialization we need to include different Modules. These modules methods have equal names, that's why we want to include the methods per instance
<jhass> g0bl1n: yes, it's called "extend". But don't do it, you void method caches each time
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<g0bl1n> jhass, no, we don't want to extend, we want to include. We want the new module methods to act as instance methods for the class
<jhass> that's extend
<womble> Having to go through those sorts of contortions makes me think your domain model could stand to be improved.
<jhass> >> module Foo; def bar; "foo"; end; end; class Bar; end; o = Bar.new; o.extend Foo; o.bar
<eval-in__> jhass => "foo" (https://eval.in/225882)
<jhass> but as said, don't do it
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<g0bl1n> jhass, I want to have those Modules as plugins, for each instance
<jhass> I can only repeat myself. It's possible with extend but you shouldn't do it
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<jhass> extend is an include into the objects singleton class
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<g0bl1n> jhass, so any hint on how could I have Modules like "plugins" for an instance ?
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<jhass> it's hard without seeing the problem at hand
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<jhass> but probably something from delegate stdlib
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<apeiros_> I really love "I want to use X to solve Y" - "yes, you need to use Z, not X" - "No, I want to use X!" - why again are you here? :D
<g0bl1n> apeiros_, no, that's not my intention
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<g0bl1n> jhass, from the previous example, on the Supplier.like method, I'd like to use the mode() method from other plugins (Modules) based on a condition. This, to make it easy to create new plugins, to other devs.
<g0bl1n> * model()
<jhass> that's your full real world code/model?
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<g0bl1n> jhass, no, its code under NDA :(
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<jhass> as said, you can likely solve it with delegation
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<|jemc|> g0bl1n: sounds like you should use composition and call delegate the method to the swappable internal object
<jhass> def use_plugin klass; @plugin = klass.new(*data); end; def foo(*data); @plugin.foo(*data); end
<jhass> delegate stdlib removes the boilerplate in that
<g0bl1n> ok, thanks
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<|jemc|> g0bl1n: in the interest of answering the question: "is it possible to ...?", I should add that you can do: MyPluginModule.instance_method(:foo).bind(object).call(arguments)
<|jemc|> but again, it's probably not what you _really_ want
<|jemc|> you'll run into problems very quickly if the :foo method depends on @ivars or private methods that you didn't bring with you when you did the bind
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<g0bl1n> |jemc|, yes, agree
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<g0bl1n> |jemc|, jhass is this correct ? https://eval.in/private/918f61f9d55f9f
<g0bl1n> seems to work
<g0bl1n> line 23
<jhass> no, that's horrible
<jhass> it has the same issues that extend does have and more
<jhass> we told you to abandon your idea of using inheritance and to seek for a solution using composition/delegation instead
<jhass> you don't seem to want to, so have a nice day
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<g0bl1n> jhass, trying to look for composition/delegation examples and reading about it, meanwhile that appeared.
<jhass> did you look at delegate stdlib yet?
<jhass> it has examples
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<jhass> for its classes/methods
<g0bl1n> jhass, looking now yes
<g0bl1n> jhass, ty for your patience ;)
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<jhass> yes, that's the delegate stdlib
<g0bl1n> ty
<jhass> what's the best fit from there to your model, I can't say since I don't know your real model
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<g0bl1n> having an object that has data and methods, I need to attach to that object new methods based on a users choice. Those new methods are inside Modules. Imagine an object you want to export to XML or JSON. We want to have several independent modules (one for JSON export, other for XML, other for new created formats) so that we attach those modules to the object based on the format we want to export to. Having on those modules a same method name expor
<g0bl1n> t_data.
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<bnagy> it's amazing the lengths to which people will go to avoid a sane api
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<g0bl1n> bnagy, great comment
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<jhass> I think you're doing this the wrong way around
<jhass> JSONExporter.new(model).export_data
<jhass> XMLExporter.new(model).export_data
<|jemc|> g0bl1n: despite whatever idioms you may or may not be violating, the big practical problem with your pasted example is that when you call self.class.send(:include, Foo), the Foo module is included in the class, meaning it's suddenly in every instance of the class, universally; not in a specific instance as you seem to want.
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<g0bl1n> |jemc|, perfect, thanks, that's bad :)
<apeiros_> (I think it's also what jhass told you dozens of lines ago)
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<|jemc|> extend is the right tool for 'including' a Module into only a single instance, as mentioned by others above
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<|jemc|> that is, in your example:
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<|jemc|> `extend Car.const_get(here_we_go)` instead of `self.class.send(:include, Car.const_get(here_we_go))`
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<jhass> g0bl1n: google ruby DCI for plenty of blogposts about the pros and cons of your approach
<g0bl1n> ok, thanks
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